Serving in the military is not for the faint of heart.
There are so many dangerous aspects to the job.
When people discuss it, we think about war and the sacrifice people make with their lives.
But there is a ton of scandal involved with the military.
Over the years, so much information has leaked about bad behavior and just everyday nonsense.
Just because a person becomes a soldier doesn't mean they're perfect.
Redditor AdRealistic03 wanted to discuss the shocking things we've all learned about our armed forces, so they asked:
"What are some NSFW secrets about the military?"
The military is littered with secrets, and I love secrets. Tell me more...
Hey Girl
Fight Dance GIF by tv2norgeGiphy"Been in for a long while now, the most apt descriptor I've heard:"
"'Gayest bunch of straight dudes you'll ever meet.'"
Tak_Jaehon
Baby Guards
"Our Air Force’s most critical asset, nuclear weapons, are primarily guarded by a bunch of really bored teenagers."
it_helper
"Navy is the same. The guy that Naruto runs to the galley is the same one that stands watch over the nuclear reactor."
satanyourdarklord
"Lowest ranks pull guard duties more often."
"Who's the lowest rank? That baby faced 18 year old who just joined up."
"Guard duties are up there as one of the most bone taskings going."
Daewoo40
The Side Hustle
"Sometimes the guy that administers the drug test is the same one that you get the drugs from."
Lazy-Plum-19
"I was our unit's drug test guy. I smoked weed every day because I obviously would not drug test myself. I was also really good at it so they wouldn't give the job to someone else. I could get our tests done and completed without mistakes in like 1/5 of the time of my predecessor. Didn't sell drugs, but I've given plenty away."
Changnesia_survivor
Oh My
"Swingers exist on every single base in the world, in Sigonella, they would use different boxes of detergent in the windows to show what they were into and what age range they were looking for. Patrolling the housing area became much more interesting when you see who lives in the houses and what they’re into."
catfartzz
Multi-Purpose
Hungry Labor Day GIF by BounceGiphy"The food boxes that come in literally say 'For prison and military use only.'"
BlackLotus8888
"My husband was watching a documentary with people in prison and was like hey we have the same blankets on the ship."
PricklyPix
No matter who eats it, it's been said nobody thinks any of that food tastes good.
How many?
Oh My Reaction GIF by Saturday Night LiveGiphy"I was selected 6 times in a row to be a urinalysis checker. Have seen over 2000 penises involuntarily."
Jarhead-Coffee
Bad Intentions
"The number of people who get sick and tired of being in the service who will go out and do some drug or another to get kicked out. During our Iraq/Afghanistan years, you wouldn't believe how many people would purposely pee hot or, females would intentionally get pregnant to get out of going."
Blackhawk-388
Not Sexy
"A friend of mine in the special forces told me since they are out in the field a lot, they get plenty of ticks. And while you can inspect yourself fairly well, you can’t inspect everything, so they pair up and spread their cheeks, and your mate has to stare into your anus to check you for ticks in there. Not very glamorous."
Litenpes
Health Issues
Okaay What GIF by ABC NetworkGiphy"Looooooottttts of chlamydia."
Triatomine
"My unit in Okinawa had the highest STD rate for the island. I was so glad I wasn't a part of any of that."
FightingNymph
Trashed
"Our oceans are loaded with garbage. LOADED."
"I would watch the long trail of garbage follow my ship, in the wake, as crew dumped the s**t off the fantail. Every single day. Miles and miles of trash. And this was just one ship. This was just one nation. Our oceans are full of garbage that will take centuries to erode. Our waters are littered with sh*t that fish are eating and dying on."
eyehate
Sounds like there is A LOT of fraternization in our Armed services.
Be careful out there.
People Explain Which Things Military Recruiters Don't Tell Potential Candidates
For young people pondering at least a few years--or even an entire career--in the military, a military recruiter might be a key component in the early stages of the process.
And it's important to remember that their purpose is, above all, to recruit people.
That's an inherent bias to keep in mind when speaking to such a person. Of course ethical standards are high enough to not expect lies or deceit, but given that all the facets of the military experience could never be covered in a couple meetings, plenty of the nitty gritty details may get left out.
Some Redditors who did spend time in the military gathered to set the record straight. They recounted the aspects of a life in service that they absolutely did not expect when they embarked on the journey.
MrAnonymous418 asked, "What are some things about the military that recruiters don't tell you?"
Spick and Span
"A very, very large part of your duties will involve cleaning."
"I was a nuclear reactor operator on a submarine. But mostly I cleaned it."
-- mwatwe01
Like Everything, It's Got It All
"They don't tell you that despite the Marine Corps' reputation for being honorable, there are a lot of shady scum bags who join the Marines." -- ActuallyNiceIRL
"I was a Marine and had a roommate who joined because it was either that or jail. He never gave me a problem, but I've learned that since he got out he's been in and out of jail."
"On the flip side, some of the best men and women I've ever known were Marines." -- barrywalker71
Longevity
"Mine was fairly honest but what I will tell you is avoid combat jobs. You'll have a better time in the military being in supply or logistics."
"I was in artillery and we were in the field constantly, it was exhausting."
Plenty of Time to Pass
"Every time that there's a change of command, your most important duty in the world will be to neatly lay out the contents of a conex, wait for the incoming commander to come inspect it, repack everything when they inevitably don't show up, then do it all over again the next week."
"A surprisingly large amount of time during deployments will be spent throwing rocks at cigarette butt cans."
-- MyDudeSR
Know Your Options
"They don't tell you that until you complete basic training, you can quit any time without consequence (tho you will never get a second chance to join rejoining is difficult.)."
"They don't tell you that if you qualify for a job you want but its not available, then you should just wait and come back in a week."
"Otherwise, as some have said, recruiters are generally blatantly honest."
-- blitzkrieg9
Like Most Teaching Institutions, It's About Free Labor
"The recruiters job is to get you to basic training. They'll send anyone there if they can."
"They'll talk about all this fancy training, but you'll spend most of your time doing menial tasks. Cleaning, changing tires, picking up trash, pointless stuff like that."
"Get the college money, and get out!"
-- cuffgirl
Wear and Tear
"You're knees and back with hurt after 1 year in. But it's 'not service related' " -- Pooneapple
"Got 10% for my back...kinda made me wonder if it's way worse than I thought it was" -- hatsnatcher23
Behind the Times
"Sure, we've come a long way about women being in the military....."
"....but the sexism is still very very VERY much alive. If you don't believe me, consider going on any Instagram photo's comments on a military branches page with a woman in it. Now imagine working in that environment every single day."
-- pettytit
An Optimistic Take
"IF you're smart, a short time in the military can jump-start your life in a way practically nothing else can."
"A person without a cent to their name and from a crime-infested neighborhood could sign up for 4 years, and if during that time they lived modestly, saved their money, went on a deployment (thus saving even more money tax-free), and didn't get married or have kids, they could leave the service..."
"...with nearly 6 figures in their bank account, free healthcare from the VA, and potentially a job skill that could transfer to the civilian sector, or college paid for with the GI Bill."
"99% of people won't do that, though. They'll piss away their money, get married, get divorced, and probably leave the service with less money than they started with. They'll go back to where they grew up, get a low-paying job at a car wash, and blame the military for ruining their life."
Be Ready
"You will be extremely pushed to quit once you're in Basic Training. But you're not supposed to let them get to you."
"They don't tell you how much the drill sergeants try to get to your head and f*** with your emotions."
-- Flimsy-Salad
Roll of the Dice
"Not all jobs are equal, and even inside the same job not all locations and bosses are equal."
"I see a lot of people who joined the military had a really shi**y station and terrible bosses. They were working 12+ hours in awful conditions and getting sh** on by their Leadership constantly."
"They have a very jaded view of the military understandably and they go around telling people all about how shi**y the military is and how much you'll hate it."
"Then there's the people who had really good bosses and jobs they enjoyed. They go around telling people all about how great the military is and how much fun they've had."
"The truth (as someone whose been in for a while) is that it's neither. It's a job that's way more structured. I've had really good, and really bad experiences."
"So when the recruiter says 'you'll love it' just realize that they don't really know what you'll be doing."
Red Tape Until the Very End
"That if you do need to discharge during training, you don't just get to leave, even if you're injured."
"You have to be transferred to a special platoon where it takes weeks-months (depending on how long you've been there, how many pieces of equipment you've been issued, etc...) to undo all your admission papers and effectively sign you out."
"If you're seriously injured, they try not to keep you around for longer then five-nine days. If you're healthy, but you just can't take it anymore, and maybe you've already done seven weeks, get comfortable. It'll be months before you can go home."
Especially Annoying
"If you ever consider joining special forces units because your recruiters/NCOs says there is a lot of action and war games, they often exclude the constant drilling on minute movements..."
"...the everlasting dredge of entry-drilling and combat techniques and the waiting for f***ing hours because your CO forgot his map or something."
-- MrGronn
Topsy Turvy
"Often, you will find yourself under 'management' that is barely literate."
"These same people will be of a senior level that is nigh untouchable. This creates the "toxic leadership" you hear about in the news."
"Having spent a generation at war, many of the 'good' leaders have left the military, making the above two issues more apparent."
"All of the stupid comics, cartoons, tv shows, etc are true. There is dumb, then there is Army dumb."
-- ASAP_i
Firsthand Account
"If you want kids, don't join."
"I was an Army brat and I could say a whole lot more awful shit about the kinds of men you're raising your kids around, how much deployment sucks, what it's like to have a father with PTSD who treats you like an inferior soldier instead of his daughter..."
"...having no idea about civilian life and struggling to survive when you leave home, and how shit it was to go to ten schools before I was 15 and for some reason it was a surprise when I didn't do well. Good fathers don't inflict military life on children, die mad about it."
Keep Your Eyes Peeled
"Everyone cheats when they or their partner is on deployment."
"You can report any rank bullying, racism, sexual harassment, etc. But it will f*** you over more than the guilty person(s)."
"I think I've met a higher percentage of terrible people in the military than I ever met as a civilian."
-- Caedes1
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People Share The Most Blatant Lie Someone Has Ever Told Them
Nearly everyone lies—whether to get out of trouble, get what they want, or just to escape the awkwardness that can result from telling the truth when someone else only thinks they want to hear it.
Some people take things to extremes, though. Their lies can be so obvious that it's hard to do anything but laugh at the absurdity.
Reddit user cheetozrgud asked r/AskReddit for the most obvious lies they had ever been told, and the subreddit did not disappoint.
"People of reddit, what is the most blatant lie that has ever been told to you?"
1.
We offer a true work/life balance and we're all like one big family here.
"We're all like one big family here" is the subtle way of saying "Conform or be eaten alive."
"We have flexible hours"
AKA
"We expect you to come to work at random hours no questions asked or you're fired"
2.
There was a dude I worked nights with at a grocery with who used to tell me about his time spent as a roadie for Pearl Jam, all the deep talks he'd had with Eddie Vedder and how Eddie would go to him for help on songwriting, Eddie always like, "Hey man, what was that riff you were just playing? Would you teach it to me?"
We were both just into our 20s at the time and had went to the same high school, there was no way any of his stories could have possibly been true.
3.
"I had 26 confirmed kills in Afghanistan" random dude in his early 20's at a bar, who was talking to my friend and I, and my friend is a veteran of Afghanistan. it didn't end well.
4.
GiphyWas in charge of a restaurant with myself and 2 other people there. One them came to me and said money had been taken out of her purse. I went to the other one and asked if she had taken it. She was like "no I would never are you sure you didnt do it." I was just like ok I will watch the tape and then call the gm. She just booked it out the door. I was just going to make her give the money back but man that was wierd.
6.
Kid once told me on his way to America on holiday the plane caught fire on both engines and they had to do an emergency landing in a military base. They where then taken to the hotel by "the helicopters with two spinners".
Same kid also told me that his uncle ran over his dad with a tank on accident because he was in the army and they let him take it home.
7.
GiphyWhen I was about 14, a girl in my class tried to convince my friend group that she had a secret twin attending boarding school in Switzerland and that they were planning on switching places without telling anyone else. She spent the next month counting down to what would be her 'last day' before her twin would take her place. She was genuinely shocked that none of us believed her.
8.
Rumor started in middle school that I stalked this girl. Now, I did have very strong feelings for her but I never stalked her. Rumor spread and it really hurt me, I asked her if she believed it and shed always tell me no. Found out later on that she actually started the rumor. Apparently she didnt like me and wanted to get rid of me, which..ok fair enough but, damn, could've just said something. And now I'm constantly afraid I'm doing something to creep a girl out, or that no one likes me, not even my friends so. Thanks for that, really, its fan-f**king-tastic
9.
"OK, I just restarted my computer."
No... no you didnt. You paused about 30-45 seconds on the phone so that I would think you turned your PC off. And look task manager says uptime of 45 days.
10.
GiphyWoman came into the store saying that the manager would replace her cell phone free of charge. I was the manager.
While serving our country, soldiers are deprived of certain things that they were used to having as a civilian. They don't exactly have stuff like candy on the battlegrounds, so receiving packages with fun things is always a special treat. Here are some things that our troops crave the most while they're deployed.
u/ImNotF*ckingSerious asked: Soldiers of reddit, what are things that the military doesn't provide that would be good for people to send in care packages?
Thanks, Nigel.
My parents sent me a box just absolutely stuffed of snack sized "experimental" Taki flavors. Best thing I ever got. Next was a generic note from a 3rd grader named "Nigel" said "I hope you can see your family again". Kinda murdery, but the intent was good, everyone in the squad got a laugh.
Also disclaimer, I was only in Norway which made the note all the more hilarious.
The letters from kids are always the funniest. My favorite one was "Good luck in the next war." Little guy must have had some insider info...
Edit: found the letter
Good to know.
GiphyMake sure your care package isn't for someone in training, they might not be allowed to use those products.
My aunt sent me fuzzy pajamas and a box of chocolates to boot camp. She could not understand why I got in trouble for them and had to throw them away.
That's inventive.
I turned 40 while deployed and received a care package from my wife that had a fully inflated Mylar balloon, which I thought was pretty damn nifty and creative. The box had other stuff in it too, so it wasn't suspiciously light, yet when I sliced it open (thank god I didn't slice through to the balloon) up floated the colorful Happy 40th! balloon. Made my week.
Don't pack food with soap.
What ever you send PLEASE do not pack any soap or detergent in the same box as food. We got some really big boxes that had packages of detergent and lots of candy and all of the candy tasted like tide.
My father in law made me a few lbs of deer jerky long ago. The wife added a few bars of dial to the flat rate box and ruined every bite. I still ate it. I regret nothing.
Hot sauce makes everything better.
GiphyCondiments such as hot sauce.
Food is not always bad but it's very predictable. Hot sauce makes it much better.
Just make sure you wrap the bottles really well. Postal centers overseas tend to just ignore "fragile" during the shipping and handling process.
Also, the hotter the better. Daring each other to test the hottest sauces we can find is great entertainment.
The best care packages ever.
I've seen a few of these on here already, but I will reiterate for the important ones:
- Beef jerky. Any kind of jerky, honestly. Tuna fish too. Sounds weird, I know. Sometimes that quick shot of salty, greasy fish will keep you going. It comes in single serving bags, way better in the field than cans.
- Hot sauce. One of the best care packages I ever had the pleasure of was nothing but 16 bottles of different types of hot sauce one of my buddies got and we all shared. Not joking, seeing what was in that box when my buddy opened it is one of the best memories I have of the war.
- Baby wipes. When I was deployed I went out on a few extended missions, sometimes for a week or two. I took a shower in the field once. One time.
- Things have changed a lot in the last 14 years, but I loved getting DVDs. I don't know what the equivalent would be in 2020.
- Visine. I discovered this too late for it to have been helpful for me. To this day I still occasionally have dreams where my mouth and nose and eyes are completely clogged with dry sand and no amount of me trying to get it out helps. My eyes at least would have loved me discovering visine long before I did.
- Magazines. The print kind, not the bullet-holding kind. Anything from smut to housekeeping, it doesn't matter. National Geographic was my favorite, and it ages well.
This was specific for me, I just wanted to share it: My girlfriend used to put a small note on anything she sent me. Message simple and sweet, and she'd leave a kiss in lipstick on it and spritz it with her perfume. I don't think I ever told her how much that meant to me. But damn sometimes that really got me through. I still have some of those notes.
FLAVOR FLAV!
My parents sent me a care package full of cheap toys once. Dart guns, noise makers, little toy army men, a small etch a Sketch etc. We all played with the toys for a day or so and it was entertaining, and afterwards we gave all the toys to local kids who enjoyed the hell out of them.
Saw a kid 3 weeks later who made the etch a sketch into a weird necklace. Looked a little like a 3rd world version of Flavor Flav. Kinda made me feel like not all is bad in the world.
Now I'm just laughing my butt off thinking about some 3rd world kid running around shouting "FLAVOR FLAV!!!!"
Better than a woobie.
GiphyMy all time favorite was a church group where each contributor made a blanket representing their home state. I still have that blanket and NO ONE, not even my girlfriend is allowed to use it. It's draped over the back of my reading chair in the library. It's even better than a woobie.
"It's even better than a woobie."
Now now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Yum.
Someone sent us two rum cakes. Wrapped in cellophane, still moist and delicious. That was a golden, sunlit moment amid a dreary and painful deployment.
We sent Christmas cake... It was so moist with the rum we got them merry....and then sick .... But they all loved it..
This is nice.
Send spicy ketchup from Whataburger
386 ELRS/CSS Unit 61408 APO, AE 09855/1408
I'm on it buddy, I have some time tomorrow. Anything else you want?-Skinwalker-
All needed items.
GiphyBatteries. You wind up having half as many as you need, and it gets you mad. Command want you mad, so you take it out on the enemy.
Cards, travel games, dice. Not only is it nice to have entertainment that doesn't need batteries, but can be stored in a pocket, and sometimes traded or gifted to a local as goodwill.
Baby wipes. Does it need to be stated why these are good and useful?
There's a reason why they have PTSD.
I knew someone who was infantry in Iraq so I sent his squad a crate of Gatorade powder. Like enough to make vast quantities of the stuff when mixed with water. According to him they had water but not nearly enough electrolyte replenishment. It was very well-received.
I also made the mistake of sending him a cheap digital camera (this was slightly before phone cameras were any good) for him to keep, and asked him to send pictures. He did, and some are horrifying beyond description. I have no idea how anyone can *not* get PTSD after living through that.
Noted.
I was always grateful for care packages when deployed, but 2 hard lessons learned:
- Booze shipped in an emptied mouthwash bottle (like rum) still tastes like Listerine, no matter how many times you wash out the bottle prior. Made us super sick.
- Bar soap, included in box with food goodies, makes said goodies taste like soap.
Good point.
High quality toiletries.
Soldiers will generally always have access to basic hygiene supplies but rarely the nice, name brand stuff. Those sorts of things can really make someone's day.
When sending a care package remember that you're trying to make someone's deployment less miserable, not providing for their basic needs. Please don't send stuff like razors from the dollar store. While the thought is appreciated, that sort of thing usually sits unused in a pile at the MWR.
So things like nice, Gillette razors, electric toothbrushes, nice tissues that don't aggravate your nose, high-quality running socks and underwear, manicure kits (just the kinds with clippers and nail files, no polish), boot insoles, salon shampoo and conditioner, high quality skincare products, etc.
And don't forget the women. Tampax pearl tampons are extremely popular. Smaller sizes of nice socks and underwear. Brushes and hair ties. Face masks. But try to avoid super scented stuff.
The military is not for the average human.
Military officers often move from place to place, and have no home--troops go in and out of countries in varying states of war. In a state of peace, the military is still a dangerous job. In a time of war, there are no words to describe the horrors those in the military face daily.
u/Overcooked-Banana asked:
Redditors who joined the military and regretted it, what made you regret it?
Here were some of those stories.
Life On The Line
I regret the last 6 years I was in. It cost me my marriage, my sanity, health, and all around sucked the joy out of life. The stupid game got really stupid in those last six years. Truth is, if I had reclassed to a different MOS, I'm sure I would have been happier and would still be in. But no. I chose to stay in the infantry for 6 more years. Once I got out, I felt 125% better about myself and my life.
A Product Of Capitalism
My coworkers were jerks that would bully specific troops into being afraid to work, because would get yelled at if they ever made mistakes (they were apprentices. They'll make mistakes). The shifts were long and irregular; sometimes I would walk in at 7 in the morning for work, only to be told "oh! I meant to call you. You're moved to nights. Come back at midnight". People got placed on weekends for 5 or 6 months at a time and only got pulled off so I could due-process or deploy. People shame you for using vacation days and often deny you vacation time. It's a mess.
Generally The Opposite Problem
I left after 7 years. The reason I regretted joining is that I never got to used the skills I trained for. It's the main reason I left. I'd see the same people getting cycled back onto deployment and I'd be stuck in a shore office dealing with paperwork at a desk.
I didn't sign up to ride a desk, I signed up to be at sea. I was ready and available to go every time, and my name just never came up.
But now I'm in a better job making more money with way less bull to deal with so... No worries
The Mental Repercussions
My buddy has PTSD and is deaf in one ear. He's deaf because that was the radio ear and the PTSD shows up in fits of anger when his anxiety jumps for no apparent reason. He gets wound up if he feels like he's being attacked leading to him losing jobs, losing relationships, and alienating friends.
Shame
Sexual assault on US Navy ships is constant and is swept under the rug. Reporting assault is drilled in by PowerPoints but actually reporting can lead to alienation, harassment, or still having to work in close quarters with the person that assaulted you. Males and females.
Job Is A Job
Been in 12 years now, and I feel like most people regret it, in some form or fashion during their time. That doesn't mean that you regret it all the time, but it certainly has it's moments. Even guys with the "cool" jobs have regrets about things. I fly Apaches for the Army, which is arguably the coolest job out there but just like any job, shit sucks sometimes.
Messed. Up.
Its illegal for you to quit, and you're salaried and overtime exempt. There is zero incentive for them to not ride you like the indentured servant you actually are at that point.
100 hour weeks are not uncommon.
Beyond that, the sheer amount of control over your life that they have, and more specifically all the incredibly stupid stuff they choose to make a big deal out of instead of letting you do your job.
The specific job itself was fine. But everything about the military and military life is bad.
Keep Yourself Untethered
Joined, got married, had kids, the trap. Afraid to get out because the fear of not being able to provide for my family. Used to the benefits. Healthcare for the family. That's the trap. Long deployments. Typical bull of being in the military. Constant fear of getting into trouble. Made it to 20. Retired. I can say the retirement check is nice. But you still need to work to keep things going. Don't fall into the trap. That way you can get out if you want.
A Terrible Conglomerate
It was the greatest concentration of the absolute worst people I've ever come across in my life. Don't get me wrong, there were some great people in the military as well, but the distribution of liars, cheaters, drunks, abusers, backstabbers, and bigots was so much denser than the average distribution in regular society that it got to be too much. Also, dear lord, the number of people who expected to be treated like a goddamn hero just for enlisting was nuts. Like, dude, you sit in a climate controlled lab all day in a butts-in-seats position. You haven't done a damn thing for your country.
Make An Informed Choice
Joined right out of highschool, and was pigeonholed into a job I hated 2T2. All I got was a gi bill, a nicotine addiction, and work skills in a field that is both hard to get into and doesn't pay well since it's so easy to do. Higher ups will tell you "civilian life sucks compared to this" but honestly those guys have stockholm syndrome. Sure you don't get a guaranteed housing allowance or free healthcare from your job but if your boss comes in drunk screaming at everyone, or the good old boy system comes into play at work, or your boss and coworkers screw your career up. Unlike the military, you can just leave.
I regret it because I wasted a few good years of my life for the government doing work I hated and when I got out I essentially had to start from scratch. My advice is that unless you know you're getting a job that you know you'll love, really weigh out your options.