Former Flat Earthers Reveal What Made Them Change Their Perspective
I know what you're thinking... "Yeah right, there's no way there are any EX flat earthers out there..." I had the same thought when I first saw the Reddit thread I'm about to share with you. But it turns out, there are - and they're much more willing to speak than people might think.
Reddit user blc_abc asked:
Ex flat-Earthers of Reddit, what originally got you into the conspiracy, and what caused you to leave?
Surprisingly, quite a few people spoke up and it was fascinating and kind of sad to get the inside scoop on why people were open to the ideas. What we found interesting were that there were a few common threads that kept popping up - a lack of education, the need to feel a connection to a community/part of something, and plain old ego really factored in for several folks.
Buckle up, we're about to go for a ride.
Maturity And Critical Thinking
I used to believe that earth was flat. Basically I was into other conspiracies like 9/11 and the Illuminati and I just went down the rabbit hole of conspiracies and became a flat earther. I watched a lot of Eric Dubay and Jeranism to confirm my beliefs. Most people thought it was a joke but I believed it and earned a reputation at my high school. Looking back I regret it pretty bad since it was really cringey. They even put me in the school year book for it so it's there forever.
I got out of it my just becoming more mature and thinking more critically. I also became close with my physics teacher since we have similar interests and that combined with maturity got me out of the mentality. The worst part was everyone thinks I was doing it for attention when I actually believed it. I basically destroyed my reputation in my hometown. It's not a big deal tho since I'm leaving and it's one of the reasons why I'm abandoning my childhood life.
Memes To The Rescue
First I saw the proofs. I believed them. Then these flat earth memes made me understand these proofs are sh*t. So I don't believe in that anymore. I'm thankful to memes for this.
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I used to believe that the moon landing was a hoax and that 9/11 was an inside job. I was young and naive. School had pretty much failed me. It didn't help anyone build critical thinking skills. It just taught us "this is this. that is that" but didn't teach us why this is this and how we know that is that.
Anyway. I was (and am) a very curious person. I love learning. When things like wikipedia and youtube became popular and science related contents started becoming available, I consumed them voraciously. I started to understand the scientific method. I learned why evidence and data are important. I took online courses. In those courses I learned about the peer review system, I learned physics, statistics, economics, logic, behavioral psychology, and social psychology.
Basically, I got all the tools to challenge my old beliefs. I picked them apart. I started debating in my own mind various topics and discarded anything that didn't hold up to my scientific scrutiny - including those conspiracy theories.
Dad's Trip To China
Not me, but my dad.
He is bipolar (same as me, but with more severe mania) and during a manic episode a few years ago he got really into conspiracy theories. He was smoking a lot of pot, staying up til 4 in the morning getting messages from 'God', and watching YouTube videos. He would believe anything on YouTube. He started obsessing over the sun and moon. He would constantly take pictures of them and go on long rants about how the sun doesn't really set in the West and it's revolving around the Earth and how the moon always looks the same so it must be sitting still in the sky, not rotating.
Eventually this turned into believing that the moon landing was faked, the earth is flat (and the center of the universe), the sun and other planets revolve around the earth, and the earth has a huge dome around it that keeps people from exiting the atmosphere into space.
Every single family gathering he would bring this up and go on LONG (multiple hours) rants about it to anyone who would even pretend to listen. He convinced a couple of his sisters but most of the family just dismissed it as crazy uncle stuff.
He knew I didn't believe him and so he would corner me all the time trying to get me to argue with him or watch some of his (again, multiple hours long) YouTube videos.
The thing that changed his mind? He went on a trip to China. On the plane, there were screens in front of him that showed the trajectory and route they were taking. On the way to China, he saw that the route they took (which took about 15 hours) matched up with his flat earth theory — if the earth was round, they would have just flown over the ocean to cut 3 hours out of the trip, or something. But because they took the 'longer' way (which my dad believed was actually the shortest way, going by the flat earth map) this proved that the earth was flat.
However, on the way home, the plane took the ocean route and made the trip in 12 hours. Should have been impossible, according to my dad. That opened his eyes and he started to fact check some of the bogus math that had been spouted at him on YouTube.
He still believes some of the conspiracy theories, but he picks and chooses which ones he believes. Like, he still thinks the moon landing was faked, but he believes that we've sent unmanned rockets to the moon (so there's no dome around the earth).
He still watches YouTube videos almost constantly. He's big into James White and all that.
I really dove into it a few months back. I think the thing that gets people is the idea of a flat earth would mean a higher power or "creation" of the flatness. Lots of people discussed the something bigger and feeling that this meant they really had a purpose.
Not me, but a family member. They're still a flat-Earther, so I can only answer the first half of the question. They've explained to me that the Bible states that the Earth is flat, not round, in its own words in multiple parts of the book (as if the Bible is a book of cold, hard facts).
Then, the most compelling reason that they think to believe the Earth is flat is that the higher-ups of the world have deceived us and want us to believe the Earth is round. The Earth being round would point to the fact that there is no God because the Earth being round and being part of a solar system can be explained by science.
Basically, if we have proof that there is a God (flat Earth), we won't abide by the rules of the higher ups of the world anymore, since we have God's rules to follow.
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I'm not proud of this, but some time ago I was young, and wanted to see a greater truth than the whole world being one giant shopping mall. I went on a Youtube binge. You know how some of those Youtubers have those authoritative sexy voices? Well that's how I was hooked on Flat Earth, aaaaand about 5 seconds later I realized it's bullsh*t, because if you use your brain it's clear as f*ck that it's bullsh*t.
People that make fun of conspiracy theories commit small conspiracies every day in their daily life. They talk about friends behind their back and make plans to gain this or that through deceit and trickery yet they don't understand that those with money and clout are just like them, only they operate within their means on a larger scale. If you're a petty small person that uses your clout in a social situation to conspire to get what is best for you, what makes you think the elite of this world are any different from you?
So yeah, I'm into some conspiracy theories. I find it odd when you go down the rabbit hole all you find is lizard people and flat earth. I agree with many posters here that a lot of it is about ego and having secret knowledge, but I also see a lot of ego on the other side making fun of people who believe in conspiracies.
I listened and spent way too much time looking into the flat earth (Probably about 10 hours of earnest study over the course of a month.) and found it to be implausible and not believable. I think what it comes down to is when you when you realize how much the average person is and has been deceived, it's difficult to believe anything without testing it yourself, and those in the flat earth movement take advantage of that disbelief and distrust in the system.
I think the loony conspiracy theories like lizard people and flat earth are there to stigmatize and label people who might tell you the truth about something. Personally I'm willing to listen to any intelligent person who has a reasoned belief. Partly because I want to know why they believe it, and because some things at first seemed crazy to me and then evidence was provided that supported it. Essentially I'll give anybody the benefit of the doubt.
I think the rabid arrogant flat earthers talking down to you about how water falls off of a ball instead of sticking to it that everybody props up and makes fun of are the obnoxious loud minority that are there to make it easy for you to dismiss the movement. I think there are quiet, intelligent folks who just don't trust anything the majority believes anymore because they feel they've been lied to about everything.
If the UN map looks like a flat earth map and flight paths are screwy (due to cost of landing in certain countries I believe) its enough for them to want to hang on and reserve judgment. It's a rebellion against too much propaganda and too many pundits telling everybody what they should think and what they should believe. Ultimately for many its a crutch for some sort of other belief they want to hold that they feel is being taken from them.
I used to be really into conspiracy theories and a big part of the hook that people don't see is that it's an ego trip. You think you know things that others don't and it makes you feel smarter, special or superior. It makes you feel good to feed the ego. It takes a bit of self reflection and a slice of humble pie to figure out your motivations for believing something.
Ego And The Cult
I just watched "Behind the Curve" on Netflix and I have realized how true this ego theory is!! The main guy in it, Mark Sargent, really just seems to love the attention and fame that comes with being a flat earther. He seems to thrive more on finding his sort of tribe and having people fawn over him than any actual flat earth theory.
I've tried to entertain the idea of flat earth before but if you go to the Flat Earth Society website and check the "Frequently asked questions" section...it just.....I can't. I can't even with these people. It lacks all reasoning. They disregard traditional scientific methods and rely solely on what they can observe with their senses (look up Zetecism). This essentially means they form a question and immediately set to experimenting. No theory or forethought and take the results as irrefutable fact.
It's honestly a lot like a cult.
Tons of people in cults don't really believe in them. It provides them a community of people that accept them, makes them feel exclusive and know something that other people don't, tells them they are great for believing these things, etc.
Granted, flat earth is a little different than your typical run of the mill religious cult. But I think that the motivations for some of it's believers are very similar.
I think Mark even said at one point in that documentary something about how even if he stopped believing in Flat Earth, he'd probably just keep saying that he did anyway. In a way I feel for them, it is kinda like leaving a cult. Once you're all in like that, all of your friends and support group is the community.
As for what they talk about, most of what I've heard is less about Flat Earth itself, and more about the conspiracy to cover it up. In that way, they have a lot in common with the wider world of conspiracy theories. Once you start to believe these things, you very quickly have to ask what's keeping more people from the truth. The more far out the idea, the more expansive the cover up must be.
We all have strong opinions about something, but when we think of opinions, we often think of hot button topics like political subjects.
But as it turns out, sometimes we can have just as strong of opinions of our preferred types of pasta.
Redditor PeeB4uGoToBed asked:
"What's the best pasta shape and why?"
The Right Answer
"I prefer my pasta, like my nuggets, to be dinosaur-shaped."
"This is my true answer, but if I have to pretend to be an adult, I always say Cavatappi."
"Radiatori. Thick and perfect for pasta sauces."
"They're so fun. They're my favorite, ahead of rotini. I just like ridges, I guess."
"Best for mac and cheese."
"My first time having cavatappi mac and cheese changed my life."
"Cavatappi gang, RISE UP."
"I see your cavatappi and raise you cavatelli."
"Cavatelli is the bee's knees, man."
"The shell shape stores cheese and sauces, so with each bite, you get tons of flavor."
"Yes! Mac n cheese always tastes amazing with Conchiglie, I don't make the rules."
"Rigatoni. My favorite dish is baked rigatoni with bolognese. I love the texture of the ridges and the larger hollow part scoops up the sauce very well as compared to ziti or penne."
"Cascatelli. Some crazy f**k got obsessed with answering the OP's question and invented this."
"Cascatelli is great, but his second round of shapes, specifically vesuvio, might be better."
"Agreed. Vesuvio is peak."
"I prefer quattrotini. I find it has better forkability and toothsinkability."
"Fusilli because it's silly."
"Bucatini is the best of all worlds. You have everything that's great about the long noodles and it's hollow! It absorbs sauce and oil on the inside."
"I hate bucatini! You can't suck a protruding part into your mouth because of the hole in the middle. You can't pick it up with a fork, because it's too slippery with sauce."
"Penne... because the sauce is in AND on it, lol (laughing out loud)."
"The pasta that would literally drive me insane if I tried to make it from scratch."
"I came to say this. Just something about it. Amazing mouth feel. Great texture. Good with light and heavy, meaty sauces."
"This one. There’s something so nostalgic about it for me. And I feel like it does well with most sauces. A very versatile shape for a variety of pasta dishes."
"Linguine: the spaghetti that went to private school."
"I am totally on board with linguine. Flat to catch the sauce and thin enough to cook evenly for the perfect consistency! Pairs with many sauces too!"
"Flat pasta is better than round pasta (like spaghetti) for sauces and flavors being absorbed. It's long enough to give the lady and the tramp vibes and not feel like you're a kid eating some superhero shapes out of a bowl like Fusilli and Farfalle can give off."
"It's thicker than tagliatelle to give it enough girth to feel like more of a main event than just being the bed your sauce and toppings sit on."
"Overall, it's just the best all-rounder in my book."
This conversation just goes to show how many pasta options there actually are in the world, some that we may have not even heard of yet, because of them being invented in 2020!
But it also goes to show that we all have our favorites, and we can have very strong opinions about them.
One of life's most unfortunate moments is when we feel our lives are genuinely in danger.
These horrific moments can involve the behavior of people with malicious intentions or just being at the wrong place and time.
Even though many people live to share their harrowing stories, the trauma doesn't necessarily go away completely.
But all anyone who's experienced a terrifying ordeal can do to find peace is to count their blessings and be grateful they are survivors.
Curious to hear from strangers online, Redditor Fearless-surfur-ee asked:
"What was the scariest incident happened with you?"
These Redditors experienced heart-stopping false alarms.
"Half a dozen masked men broke into my bedroom, threatened me and my girlfriend, realised they had the wrong house, apologised and left. Edit - I told the full story here a while back."
Witness At A Shopping Mall
"Similar thing happened to my Aunt. She witnessed an attack at a shopping centre (on going disagreement between 2 well known families) and was threatened. A few days later one of the older family members approached her in her driveway and apologised profusely for the younger persons behaviour and offered her compensation. She was so scared she just said no thanks and he left."
Sometimes, you gotta listen to your gut.
"Wife and I took a dark exit towards out neighborhood. Whole backseat full of bags cause we went shopping at the mall. There’s a red light at the intersection once you get off the exit and we pull up to this tinted oldsmobile. They were in the right lane to go straight or turn right and we were in the left lane to turn left."
"Nobody is around, maybe 10 at night. I turn left and look in my rear view and it’s the car that was next to us a bit back. I pull in my driveway and just had a really weird feeling, so I told my wife I’m gonna reverse and drive around the block. She thinks it’s weird as hell, but as we are reversing, this dude is walking towards us from that Oldsmobile parked around the corner. I dip the f**k out and make it look like I was just turning around and drove like a mile away before heading back."
"Just had this gut feeling, man. Who knows what would have happened? But it was scary as f'k, nonetheless."
A Tragic Stop
"Friend borrowed dad’s Benz to take wife on anniversary date. He stopped for flowers and was followed home by someone thinking he was wealthy. He was shot dead in his driveway in what turned out to be a gang initiation; you did the right thing."
These Redditors looked down the barrel of a gun...and lived to tell their story.
"Was at a train station that was empty and I was sitting down waiting for a train and a man walks over with a bag, opens it and takes out a shotgun and points it at me and I just stare at him, he then says 'you're not scared are you' then puts the shotgun back in the bag then walks out of the train station."
"Actually not sure if that was the scariest or weirdest or if I was even scared."
The Right Answer
"Reminds me of the time a guy put a gun to my neck and said, 'What would you do if I pull the trigger right now.'"
"I was in a completely apathetic state of mind at that time anyway and said, 'Not much I can do, but I'll haunt you.'"
These Redditors experienced medical emergencies.
"Last week had a heart attack after almost recovering from chemotherapy."
"I asked the nurse if I was going to die and she said I’m in the right place and they will look after me. Then I got more scared then I ever have before"
"I should not have survived but I did."
"The scan came back and we found a mass. We'd like you to come in to talk to the doctor today or tomorrow. You should see if someone can drive for you as you may be upset afterwards"
"Can I come in next week, I have a trip planned?"
"The doctor says you should come in today anytime and we will clear an appointment for you."
"Luckily that doctor kicked a**. 3 years post-surgery. Scans are clean in August and I move into the "only 10% chance of reoccurrence" bracket."
"Felt sick, kind of like the flu. Felt completely fine in the morning, but got worse as the day went on. It was the middle of the night and I was up with my husband and our new 6 week old baby. I was pumping breastmilk."
"Next thing I know, I’m waking up to EMTs surrounding me on my bed telling me not to move or sit up. My heart rate was incredibly high and blood pressure incredibly low. They took me to the hospital and no one knew what was wrong with me for a while. They kept asking me what drugs I took. I kept telling them nothing (which is true). I just had a baby, the biggest 'drug' I was taking was Tylenol. They didn’t believe me for a while."
"I couldn’t remember a lot of things at this point. I could barely even remember my own kid’s name. I couldn’t tell them who the president was or what year it was when they asked. It was a weird feeling to have memory missing. Kind of like having lost some puzzle pieces. Talking was also kind of difficult."
"After a BUNCH of tests, turns out I had a UTI so bad that I went into septic shock and my kidneys were shutting down. Didn’t know I had a UTI because I was still healing from childbirth and I am pretty asymptomatic when it comes to UTIs. I don’t feel pain when I get them. Spent a few days in the ICCU. Was extra scary considering my brand new baby was at home and I wasn’t and there was a chance I wouldn’t make it home at all."
"In the end, I thankfully made a full recovery."
"Not as intense as some of these other stories, but please don’t sleep on a UTI guys. Sepsis is no joke."
The last time I truly feared for my life was when I was at a party and a fight between two drunk partygoers turned into a Swiss army knife fight.
I'm not kidding.
A couple of my friends and I jumped off the second floor balcony and got chased in the parking lot.
After some fumbling with the car keys, my buddy managed to get five of us crammed into his car and the perpetrator started pounding on the rear window with his fists and bloodying it up from smashing his knuckles onto the glass.
The police came just in time. Thank you annoyed neighbor who called the cops on us for our blood-curdling screams disturbing the peace.
Perhaps the best thing about our friends is that we can always rely on them.
To help us out, to give us words of comfort and wisdom when we need them, or to just be a willing pair of ears.
Even so, our friends still have a way of surprising us, as well as disappointing us from time to time.
Sometimes they'll do things that just make us groan and roll our eyes but are easily forgiven over time.
Other times, however, they might do or say something which can only be described as "f*cked up."
Potentially putting an effective end to your friendship.
"What is the most f**ked up thing you've seen a friend do?"
Those Poor Cats...
"A guy I worked with was about to take his wife on a trip back to their mutual hometown in another state."
"They had a pair of delightful kittens and they asked me if I would watch them while they were gone."
"I had little experience with cats but these 2 were just wonderfully playful."
"I gave him a call when he got back to arrange returning the kittens but he said they had picked up a non-cat friendly dog on the journey and he would just drop off the kittens in the woods."
"Needless to say, I kept them and they were wonderful furry friends for me and eventually to my wife and kids."
"I still think what would have happened to them if I had not been in the right place at the right time."- PoloGrounder
"I went on holiday for a week and asked my 'best friend' to pop in and feed my cat (he lived a few doors away)."
"When I got back, my cat was laying by the back door of my house, went inside and his bowl was empty, I called him and asked when the last time he fed him, he said 'oh yeah, I forgot'."
"My cat had been outside for a week with no food or water. "
"I haven't spoken to him in 12 years."- Reddit
Always Listen To Your Doctor
"Convinced his girlfriend she was suffering from gluten intolerance instead of schizophrenia, and got her to stop taking medication."- lightningandmadness
But Was It A Point Worth Proving?
"Deliberately get knocked down by a car, in order to prove that when drunk (and we were very drunk), his bones were flexible."
"Fortunately, the car had been slowing to turn."
"There followed a couple of minutes trying to reassure the driver he was ok, whilst calling him an idiot."
"Meanwhile, he was laying flat on his back, maintaining he'd proved his point."- anothercynicaloldgit
It Is Never Attractive To Gloat
"Best friend was excited for me to meet his new gf."
"The whole evening he bragged about how she was still married and he was going to be the reason she got divorced."
"Haven't spoken to him since."
"Did hear she broke up with him and sorted out the issues with her husband."- hmfiddlesworth
Karma Is Pretty Unforgiving...
"Brought my friend to watch my boyfriend practice his drumming."
"She kept spreading her legs wide wearing a skirt with no underwear."
"She slept with him and he left me thinking he would be with her."
"Needless to say she didn’t date him because she already had a boyfriend."- Final_Objective_6204Kar
"We were working in an old lady's attic and he kicked the sh*t out of a pipe on purpose then went and told her it needed to be replaced."
"I never worked with him again after that."- FriendlyDifference72
"Brag about a then—boyfriend not leaving her despite constant cheating."
"Then cry when he left her."
"I don’t know either."- Snapesnape716
In With The Wrong Crowd
"They were arguing and he made fun of the friend for being an orphan."
"Tried to stab the other friend cuz his ex was crushing on him."- we_are_ghetto
Not Worth A Second Thought
"Throw McDonald’s fries and burger as hard as he could at a homeless lady asking for food."
"I called him a piece of sh*t and never spoke to him again."- Mundane_Tour_3215
You Don't Mess With Family...
"My best friend had just broken up with my brother—who had moved over a thousand miles and changed jobs to be with her—citing personal differences."
"My brother was devastated, but I tried to respect her decision and be a source of support for both of them, especially because they truly weren’t the best fit."
"But then she shared with me, because she knew that I loved her and would be happy for her so long as she was happy, that she’d been cheating on my brother for the past month and had found her soulmate."
"The depth of my brother’s heartbreak, already immense, was further compounded by the infidelity."
"To my bewilderment, she truly couldn’t understand why I was ending the friendship, seemed so distraught that I would end a years long relationship over something so 'small'."
"And I still can’t comprehend why she thought telling me would result in anything other than a complete door slam."
"Hannah, you still suck."
"And I’m still angry."
"I had also asked her to be the maid of 'honor' in my upcoming wedding."
Some friendships can withstand fundamental differences of opinion.
But no friendship is worth hanging onto when people (and kittens) are physically or emotionally harmed.
When you gotta go, you go.
That should be a mantra for getting rid of the toxic people in our lives.
Not every relationship is meant to last forever.
Some people don't know how to be friends.
They are awfully good at pretending though.
Be vigilant of the signs and red flags.
Toxic people are crafty.
And once you're free, never look back.
Redditor _ReDd1T_UsEr wanted to discuss the reasons why many of us decided to cut some people out of our lives, so they asked:
"What was the reason why your friendship ended with someone?"
Sometimes a person just has to go.
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"I stopped being the first to always initiate plans, and that was that."
"I once asked a friend to plan our next breakfast + walk outing, since I always did that. He wrote me a letter ending the friendship. Stunning!"
Pants on Fire
"Habitual lying became too annoying and disruptive to tolerate."
"When you constantly are thinking... this math ain't matching lol. People that lie all the time make me sick. I've told multiple friends that you don't have to lie to me."
"I feel so much better when someone can trust me and feel comfortable telling me a hard truth than an easy lie."
"Even if the truth made me feel some type of way, I'm still glad it was honest. I've even said thank you to people in the past that have been honest with me, good or bad! Some people just can not help lying about things. I wouldn't be able to ever keep a story straight if I did that."
"He kept having kids with different girls and bailing on them. Coming from a 'went out for a pack of smokes' Dad myself, I just couldn't watch it anymore. Bailed after the third one. Think he's up to 6 now."
"Reminds me of one of my ex-friends. She kept having kids with MULTIPLE guys (all of them were one-night stands), I don't think she even knows who the baby daddies are."
"She also kept begging me and people for money for pot, and she also bragged about having OnlyFans. She'd also make up stories about being in an abusive relationship with her boyfriend (she'd also cheat on him/tell people her and him they broke up, which they weren't)."
"I was a bad person and they ended it for perfectly sensible reasons. I would have done the same. I've changed, but I don't blame them for not reconsidering contact."
"I’ve been there. I was a bad person and lost friendships and family relationships. I tried to apologize to everyone I hurt."
"I also accepted that they don’t want me in their lives anymore. I learned that I made my mistakes, I learned from them, and I accept their choices. I don’t self-hate anymore and I try to be a better person in general. I hope you are doing well and practicing self-love and forgiveness."
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"I lent them $20 and then they avoided me so they didn’t have to pay me back. Worth the $20."
"I don't ever expect prompt returns of small amounts of money between my friends... we all buy each other rounds or buy the food for the BBQ or whatever. It ends up evening out over time I think we'd notice though if someone was always taking and never giving and then they'd probably get cut off too."
In the immortal words of Cyndi Lauper... "Money Changes Everything."
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"She joined a pyramid scheme selling butt-ugly leggings and it took over her whole life. When I finally told her it was negatively affecting our friendship, she accused me of not supporting her 'business.'"
"I was basically a taxi for my friends so I dumped them all."
"This one I can understand but depends on the situation. Not all of my friends had cars in high school, so our group needed to have me and my sh*tty '94 Plymouth Sundance come, or they couldn't do anything. I didn't mind at all then, but I definitely would these days."
"I remember I used to drive around with my buddies all the time before they had licenses. When one of my friends got his and a car I said sweet now you can drive me around for a bit, he replied that he wasn't gonna waste his money on gas like that. See ya, haven't really spoken to him since."
"How's this for oddly specific: Friend since 1980, was hanging out at a bar in 1992 and there was a dispute of over a $15.00 bar tab. I was in the right, but whatever - he held a grudge for years."
"Ran into him in 2017 and we were both too old to care. Started to see each other now and then. 2023 and we're at this local bar for a show and got into a fight about $15.00 a ticket."
"Maybe he'll call me in 2063."
"She was a taker, constantly. When I needed something she made it about her yet again. Exhausting to be around."
"I'm going through this right now. Can't tell you how many texts I have from her in the past few days telling me that I need to get over myself, need to stop making myself the victim, have been a terrible friend, have never been there for her."
"She's the most narcissistic person I know and everyone does everything for her. She has one of the easiest lives ever and anytime anything bad happens to her she believes that everyone is against her and she's the victim here. It's pure insanity. There is no talking sense to people like this."
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"I've lost like all but two of my 'friends' because I stopped drinking and doing hard drugs."
"Same here dude. My circle is small but hey at least it's a circle I know I can go to."
Oh, how things change when the booze dries up.
How much fun were you really having?
Do you have any stories about cutting off a friend? Let us know in the comments below.