When joining a gym, people should be very careful of the choice they're making. Why? Because, in many cases, it's easier to get a divorce than to cancel your gym membership. Reddit user BabstheBeagle demonstrated the hardships of trying to leave a gym by telling the story of the 26 hair-tearing phone calls it took to finally split herself from gym life.
The tale started simply enough, with a manager who seemed to be forever at lunch:
So this saga started on Wednesday. I called at my lunch hour around 1:45PM EST and asked to cancel my membership, the receptionist told me only the Operations Manager can cancel memberships and she is on lunch. I asked when she would be back, and was told 2:30PM. I called back at 2:45PM and was told she was still at her lunch. I called one final time on Wednesday at 4PM and was told by a different receptionist the same line of "Only an Operations Manager can cancel memberships and she is on lunch." I left a message with her and waited for a call.
With a little determination, however, Babs managed to get a manager on the line...only to find the situation was more fraught than she realized.
At 3PM on Thursday I called once again and was told the same line. (Call 4)
Me: "That is fine, I will hold until she gets back."
Receptionist 1 (R1): "Are you sure? It might be a while."
Me: "Yep I will wait." --- 5 Minutes Later---
Operations Manager (N): "Hi this is Naomi, how can I help you?"
Me: "Hi Naomi, I would like to cancel my membership."
N: "We only cancel membership in person between the hours of 10AM and 3PM, Monday through Friday."
Me: "That isn't going to work for me Naomi, I work."
N: "Well you can send in a form, but that can take weeks to process."
Me: "No, you are not charging me for extra time, we are going to cancel this now."
N: "I cannot do that."
Me: "Why not?"
N: "Because we cannot verify who you are over the phone."
Me: "But you can through mail?"
N hangs up.
But BabstheBeagle is not one to be trifled with. She immediately got back on the line and settled in for the long haul.
I immediately call back. (Call 5)
R1: "Hi, this is LA Fitness, how may I help you?"
Me: "Please redirect me to Naomi, thank you."
--- Hold for 10 minutes ---
N: "This is Naomi, how may I help you?"
Me: "Hi Naomi, it seems like our call dropped, this is BabstheBeagle again. I would like to cancel my membership." - Side Note: I know the call didn't drop, I just have worked in customer service before and know that a nice person is more likely to get their way.
N: "As I said, we only do that through person or through the mail, I will not be able to help you today."
Me: "Yes you will Naomi, I will continue calling until you are able to. I know you can."
N: "I was trained in December and that will not be happening."
Me: "Yes it will be, I do not care who you have to call to make this happen."
N: "I will not be canceling this membership over the phone."
Me: "Then we will be.."
Boop, N hangs up again
Me: "speaking a lot today."
She called again...
R1: "Hi this is.."
Me: "Transfer me to Naomi."
Boop, R1 hangs up.
Call 7 – 10
The receptionist never answered my call, they just put me on hold.
I work in an open office space so all my coworkers have heard me trying to cancel this membership at this point. I borrow a coworker's phone and call back. (Call 11)
R1: "Hi, this is LA Fitness, how may I help you?"
Me: "Hi, can I speak to the Operations Manager?"
R1: "Sure! Let me transfer you."
--- Naomi almost immediately answers ---
N: "This is Naomi, how may I help you?"
Me: "Hi Naomi, this is BabstheBeagle again."
Boop, N hangs up.
Because the gym was ignoring Babs' calls, she had to use multiple phones to get to the gym's manager.
This is where I start to have fun. I borrow multiple coworkers phones, calling back and asking for Naomi. After 4 more calls, they eventually get me to Naomi. At this point it is around 4:50PM. (Call 12)
N: "Hi BabstheBeagle, you know I cannot cancel this."
Me: "Naomi, you must know that I will not stop calling until you do. Why again can't you cancel this over the phone?"
N: "Because I cannot verify who you are."
Me: "I will shoot you a text with my fingerprints, face, nostrils, I will even buy you plastic surgery so you cancel this for me."
N: "I cannot."
Me: "Please transfer me to your manager."
N: "I already spoke to him, I am not allowed to cancel this."
Me: "I do not care if you spoke to him, transfer me now."
N: "I will not be doing that. Have a nice day."
Me: "NAOMI DO NOT HANG UP ON ME."
Boop, she is gone again.
When it comes to cancelling memberships, persistence is the name of the game.
Call 13 – 15 they keep on ignoring me.
Call 16 – 5:01PM
Receptionist 2 (R2): "Hi, this is LA Fitness, how may I help you?"
Me: "I am just trying to cancel my membership."
R2: "Well we are unable to do that, only the operations manager can and she just left for the day."
Me: "I do not care, I will continue to call until you find someone that can cancel this membership."
R2: "I am here until 10:30PM, talk to you soon."
Boop, hung up on again.
By the end of the day, the LA Fitness staff knew BabstheBeagle pretty well.
There is a funny thing about LA Fitness call system. When they put you on hold a message pops up saying "Thank you for calling LA Fitness, your call means a lot to us, we will answer you shortly." Every time I heard "Thank you" I hung up and called again. This was purely to make sure that their phone was constantly ringing. This happened for call 17 – 24.
Ross (GM): "Hi BabstheBeagle this is Ross, you have been told that we can't cancel your membership unless the Operations Manager does it. She is no longer here. I am the General Manager and I can't even do it."
Me: "Hi Ross, I have talked to your Operations Manager multiple times, I will continue calling tonight unless you cancel this membership. If you can't do it, find someone who can."
GM: "Give me a minute."
Me: "Sure Ross."
--- Hold for a minute or two ---
GM: "Alright BabstheBeagle, this is the number of another location. The OM named Caleb is expecting your call and he will cancel your membership."
Me: "Thank you Ross, you are clearly the only one there with brain cells."
GM: "Have a good one."
At long last, Babs found someone who could cancel her membership! Fortunately, her reputation preceded her.
Receptionist 3 (R3): "Hi, this is LA Fitness, how may I help you?"
Me: "Hi, I am calling for Caleb, he is expecting my call."
R3: "Yep, he is just with a client right now, please hold for a minute."
--- Hold for a bit ---
Caleb (C): "Hi BabstheBeagle, how can I help you?"
Me: "Hi Caleb, you have to cancel my membership."
C: "Have to?"
Me: "Do you know how I got to you?"
C: "Yes, you wouldn't stop calling."
Me: "What makes you think that will change just cause you tell me no."
--- Long Pause ---
C: "Alright, let me verify some information and I will cancel this for you."
Me: "You are a saint among ding dongs."
Fortunately, the story has a happy ending.
Caleb proceeded to unhappily cancel my membership. This call ended at approximately 5:30PM. I did not curse once, but I think every employee at LA Fitness hates me now and I couldn't care less. Also sorry if this is horrible to read. I am a sucky writer and honestly have no intention of getting better.
Reddit showered BabstheBeagle with congratulations! TheBeneGesseritWitch commented:
What's amusing is they're so eager to sign you up over the phone. I went to an LA fitness with my sister a few weeks ago and they WON'T STOP CALLING. So--good for you. This story made me laugh.
CosmicKemoSabe seconded those kudos!
This was amazing! I applaud your persistence and patience! PS - Did you really tell Caleb 'You are a saint among ding dongs'?
Kindraer was proud of Babs too.
This is the most incredible thing I've read in a long time and your persistence is admirable.
MorkSal has some bad news for Babs though...
I bet you still get billed next cycle.
citricacidx has been in a similar situation.
I was once being harassed by a gym to update my information. They were reaching out to me to ask me to pay some annual membership fee. I told them I hadn't been to the gym in a year and wasn't going to. They said that the fee was still required. I asked them if they had my credit card information. They said no, and I said "Good bye" and hung up.
The situation sadly escalated with twoshoesonesock as well.
Reminds me of the story of the guy trying to cancel his planet fitness membership and they threatened to call the cops if he didn't stop calling. After the cops got on the phone he got his membership cancelled.
QuasarMonsanto summed it up best by saying:
This gave me rage just reading it. There should be a law requiring subscriptions services to allow termination by the same method in which they are enrolled.
Twitter can certainly relate to BabstheBeagle's frustrations:
Somehow cancelling my gym membership was the most productive thing I did all weekend— erin griley (@erin griley)1536552509.0
Just cancelled my gym membership. They sure know how to make you feel bad for cancelling. 🙈— Angel (@Angel)1536624982.0
@kmm16x Everything but cancelling the gym membership will be easy.— Craig McGill (@Craig McGill)1536505573.0
So let this story be a lesson to you: if you're thinking about joining a gym, be ready to stay together until death do you part.
There's no shortage of excellent horror fiction out there. Recently I read The Terror by Dan Simmons and can't remember the last time I felt that claustrophobic and nervous. But I am also a fan of quite a few classics. Are there any other horror books that capture grief as effectively as Stephen King's Pet Sematary? What other book evokes folk horror as beautifully as Thomas Tryon's Harvest Home? Let's not forget this wonderful classic: The Haunting of Hill House. I could rave about that one (and Shirley Jackson) for days. All of these books left their mark on me and yes, I'd include them on a list (if I were to make one) of some of the scariest books I've read.
People had their own opinions to share––and books to recommend––after Redditor Tylerisdumber asked the online community,
"What's the scariest book you've ever read?"
"Gerald's Game. I've read lots of Stephen King and this one scared me the most. Slept with the lights on for several nights."
Everything about this book is creepy. Don't even get me started on the... degloving. I'm sorry I even typed that word out.
"It's not a long story..."
"The Yellow Wallpaper.
It's not a long story and I'd highly recommend going in knowing little to nothing about it. It's brilliant and terrifying. Published in 1892 as well if that's any interest!"
Few stories make you feel this sad. A pretty stunning piece of work––and yes, unnerving. Can really get under your skin.
"I think it was mainly..."
"For some reason, Salem's Lot by Stephen King.
I think it was mainly because I was on a week-long hiking trip in the Australian bush and it got dark and scary at night. But damn, I had trouble sleeping for a couple of nights. Then the friend I was hiking with read it, and he couldn't sleep either."
This is probably my favorite early King––and for good reason. The sense of atmosphere is impeccable. Those characters are loveable and you genuinely care about what happens to them. Then the book veers from horror into tragedy. It's quite moving.
"Just the knowledge..."
"On The Beach.
It's the most soul-crushing book I've ever read, and there's really nothing scary in it.
Just the knowledge of impending death for everyone that feels so awfully heavy."
This is one of those books that makes you feel hopeless.
It's impeccably written but wow... it's a truly heavy read.
"You never knew..."
It's a classic. I found it to be immensely chilling. You never knew what would happen and the writing instilled a sort of dread. I read it in the dark before I went to bed until I finished it."
A book I can read and re-read over and over again. It's a beautiful horror novel. It's also a really fascinating window into the era and manages to say a lot about social and class mores.
"I'm Thinking of Ending Things by Iain Reid. Very creepy and unnerving, definitely scared me reading it at night."
I wanted to really like this one––unfortunately, I did not––but there's no denying that the first third or so (especially once the two protagonists get to the house) is pretty unnerving. Shame the payoff wasn't all that.
"It was disturbing and horrifying..."
"Helter Skelter. It's about the Manson murders and goes into quite a bit of detail. It was disturbing and horrifying because, unlike the King novels also mentioned, it's true. What they did to Sharon Tate is so absolutely devastating. Pure evil."
This book is gruesome and not for the faint of heart. The level of detail we dive into learning about the Tate-LaBianca murders is remarkable and also rather nauseating.
"So the book's characters..."
"Bird Box by Josh Malerman.
Forget the Netflix movie. The book's monsters are terrifying, in that you simply just don't know what they are or what they look like. They could be anything. What they are is enough to drive people insane by just being looked at.
So, the book's characters have to navigate a world mostly without one of our most used senses, and what's more terrifying than something you can't see?
This leads to some utterly scary scenes in the book that sent my heart racing and I had to put down for a breather."
It's a shame that movie wasn't all that and a bag of potato chips.
"It's a different kind of scary..."
"It's a different kind of scary, but The Handmaid's Tale. Atwood's dystopian nation feels not that far from reality sometimes, and it absolutely terrifies me."
We're going to go there.
Yes, this book is terrifying.
"I feel like the movie..."
"The Ruins, by Scott Smith, messed me up pretty good. My favorite kind of horror is psychological, and while there is a physical "entity" the real horror is the helplessness of this stranded group trapped by something they don't understand. Their desperate struggle to hold on to their sanity and the slow descent into hopeless desperation just really hit hard.
I feel like the movie was a fairly faithful adaptation, although it's been a while since I've seen it."
I love this book and have read it multiple times over the years. It's slow-going... and then the final one-hundred pages are just horrifying.
Well, if you haven't read any of these... What are you waiting for? Get on that. You won't regret it.
But also... the world is pretty scary right now, so we understand if you need to take a step back.
Have some suggestions of your own? Feel free to tell us in the comments below!
Have you ever traveled to a city you've always heard good things about, only to be totally let down upon arrival?
When a friend insists we travel to certain cities because we would "just love it," they're setting the bar pretty high.
And a city can also boast a rich history or an attraction that makes us curious enough to find out what makes it so appealing.
But, alas, when we finally reach the destination, it's never exactly what we thought it would be.
Curious to hear from strangers online, Redditor tshirtguy2000 asked:
"What city is overrated?"
These are not officially real cities but they do have a rotating population.
It's Always A Party There
"As a former
slave associate at party city. I 100% agree."
"Lego City. There always has to be someone falling into the river."
"Cabot Cove, the murder capital of the world."
"Sure, the murders are all solved, but would you really want to live in a city with that much, easily solved, crime?"
Neighbor To Springfield
Shelbyville. Those f'kers steal trees from neighboring cities.
These were once considered destination cities but their popularity eventually took a nose dive.
"Atlantic City. Venture a few blocks off the boardwalk and it's incredibly depressing. Very clearly an area exploited by the big casinos while the locals have been driven to absolute poverty, while they still force a smile to work the shops that are required for the tourist traffic."
Lots Of Water
"Niagara Falls, Canada. I grew up there. Mayor pumps most of tax $ to casinos and tourism with flashy vegas-esque attractions."
"Myrtle Beach. I'm not even saying that it has a good reputation, I'm just saying that any shred of positive thinking about it makes it overrated."
Where A Creek Is An Exciting Attraction
"Lamb's Grove, Iowa. It's not the paradise on earth that people always say it is. Don't get me wrong, it's got great Chinese food but the motel 6 is meh at best."
Impressions for these cities fell far below expectation.
"Dubai. It's the clickbait of the world. 'We have the biggest/tallest/most expensive YOU WON'T BELIEVE when you see THIS...' It's hot as f*k, everything's a man-made tourist trap; labor exploitation and racism are rampant, and they try so hard to prove to the world how modern and Westernized they are. Really, it's just government propaganda."
"Miami. Horrible place filled with horrible people."
Truth be told, many cities can be overrated.
It just depends on a person's experience, or a resident's perspective about what it is about the location they live in that is nothing worth writing home about.
If I had to choose, I would say Las Vegas is overrated, but that's because there is nothing in Sin City that is of personal interest to me.
I may be severely judged for my opinion, but that is a gamble I'm willing to take.
The opposite sex can be a bit of a mystery sometimes. Our brains work differently just like our bodies and this can lead to certain sensitive questions. Guys tend to be a little less open but today it's time for the ladies to ask away. Even wondered what they really think or feel about their body, yours? Today's the day to get the answers you didn't know you needed.
Redditor William84000 asked:
“Women of reddit, what question do you have of men that you'd really like an answer to?"
His question started an informative thread for women to ask men the questions they've been wondering and receive honest, real-life answers.
“How long does it take to recover if you've been hit in the balls?” Snowy-avocado
“Anywhere from 5 minutes to literally turning to dust like we were Thanos snapped.” secondhand_organsdust whirls GIFGiphy
“The Big Dumb Object...”
“I've always wanted to know: why do you like loud machinery so much? For older men it's mowers, leaf blowers and such. For younger men, it's modified cars and motorbikes. What's the deal with the loud machines?” marshmellow_bunnyx
“Power and tools. Tools are a thing that gets stuff done, and they are loud because they contain the
natural essence power of violent explosions and fire. Most men like powerful things, instead of powerful people.”
“In sci-fi, this is called 'The Big Dumb Object', and is pretty much a trademark of sci fi books written by men” Connect-Zebra7173
To shave or not to shave?
“Does body hair on a woman bother you that much?" reillydean28
“Leg/arm hair? Don't even notice. Armpit hair? Not my thing but not my choice/decision. Pubic hair? I'd prefer not, but it's not going to stop me from getting the job done." wHUT_fun
It’s a power and control thing...
“Why send a d*ck pic?" stavinlawrence
“I think for most men it's a power dynamic thing. Either it gets them off or it just makes them feel in control."
“Then I assume there's the added bonus of if she likes it she might send a nude back. But these losers have a greater chance of buying a "get bigger penis pills" that actually work before a girl appreciates an unsolicited nude." InertialEclipse
"Do you notice the little things?”
“Do you notice the little things about women like a new hair cut, when they wear makeup or a nice outfit?” xforeverlove22
“I can't speak for everyone but for me, nope. Not at all. My uncle had a moustache for like 20 years and one day decided to shave it off. I didn't notice it. I noticed there was a weird atmosphere around me like ‘come on, say something’, so I small talked with him.”
“A few hours later after he left they asked me if I seriously didn't notice that his moustache was gone. My answer was ‘What moustache?‘ And makeup would definitly fly over my head.” PleaseTakeThisName
Lets just not touch people without permission...
“What things have women done that make you uncomfortable?" charloget
“Had a few grab my junk at random. Even had a couple that just forced a kiss on me. I don't usually experience women trying to pick me up, but the few times I did was never great. It was either negging, overly sexually aggressive and always in a group." bahamabanana
On today's episode of sink of float...
“Do penis' float like a buoy? I heard they do but have never been able to verify it.” TheFantasticV
“I mean it's buoyant but it can't really do much besides lazily sorta half float there. Still amused the f**k out of my wife to learn.” secondhand_organsGiphy
Everyone just wants to be loved...
“What makes you feel loved?” linedizzy
“A compliment, a hug or a kiss we don't have to initiate.” Nuitari8
“Do guys care if women get cosmetic procedures done?” dookieconductor
“I don't necessarily care about the work itself, I'd be more concerned about understanding why she felt like she wanted to get it done and help her feel body positive for whatever work has been done or if she feels like she needs work.” -notjosh-
Math will kill a mood everytime...
“What does it feel like when you're having sex and you're trying not to 'get there'? Is it frustrating? What do you do/think about to keep it from happening?" uhohoreolas
“I sometimes do math like 333*3... But often I am fine with just controlling things to focus mostly on her pleasure instead of mine. Tho sometimes she is excited and ends up moving in unaccounted ways while I am a hair away and there is no stopping it. I definitely don't find it frustrating. It is still very enjoyable." Fkire
Some of these Q&A's were unexpected but now we know! This important thing here though is knowing it's ok to ask questions sometimes.
Everyone's got their own favorite food.
What are two foods that actually taste great together......even though most people don't eat them that way?
Breakfast is the most wonderful meal of the day. As the wise Leslie Knope once said, "Why would anybody ever eat anything besides breakfast food?" So mixing it up can feel blasphemous, but what if it's tasty?
Jam It On
"When I was growing up, it was standard procedure for us to put grape jelly on scrambled eggs. I did it when I went to college and everyone at the table stared at me. I still like it."
"That sounds gross af, but not too gross that I don't still want to try it. Haha"
Bringing People Together
"Peanut butter and maple syrup."
"My husband and I both grew up eating PB and syrup on our waffles. We took that as a sign it was meant to be."
"Peanut butter and syrup on waffles is one of the single best things I have ever had, also growing up with it"
Mustard?! Don't Let's Be Silly.
"Mustard with scrambled eggs. Actually I haven't had it in a while but from what I remember its really good"
"Mustard with eggs period"
Sauces and dips are critical to enjoying some foods. Mess with it too much and you risk ruining the delicacy. So that's why it's reassuring to see these people offering up their new spins on dip combinations.
Only For The Elegant Dining Experience
"Hummus and salsa mixed together with tortilla chips."
"Fancy bean dip."
Peanut Butter With Everything!
"Peanut butter and cheddar cheese (like the proper brick kind, not kraft cheese slices). When I was a kid I sometimes made myself pb and cheese sandwiches. They're very filling but delicious!"
"Toasted English muffin, butter, peanut butter, raspberry jam and marble cheddar on top. Lord have mercy on me."
"Add a litte hot sauce on the peanut butter."
Better Than Garlic Sauce?
"I already posted but I'm eating pizza with my friend right now and he likes his pizza with hummus."
"Hummus is good with so many things."
"So I make spaghetti noodles, but break up the raw noodles into smaller pieces. Once they're done I put in a an egg or two (mix it around) and let it cook. I swear it's not that bad. My Nonna always makes it for me when I go back to the Midwest to visit. It's good with parmesan cheese too."
And then there's these taste combinations. Mixtures so strange, you might just be willing to walk away from your phone or computer and try one now.
Sweet And Savory?
"Watermelon and feta cheese."
"With red onion and balsamic vinegar."
"Thats like the most basic summer thing in Greece, Balkans, Turkey together with some Uzo or Raki"
Who Lives In A Cheddar Under The Sea?
"Pineapple and cheddar."
"A guy at work introduced me to dipping a peanut butter and honey sandwich into chili. That was surprisingly great."
A Creative Spin On An Old Favorite
"Root beer float except with cherry Coke and chocolate ice cream. I was in middle school on a field trip, last in line at the cream shop, and ordered this after everyone else had done the standard root beer and vanilla. One of the cool girls who had never spoken my name before gave me this piercing look and asked if I would switch with her. I instinctively knew I would get zero benefit from this deal, so I said "Nope, ya gotta just remember it next time." That felt good."
Keep an open mind. Don't do this for every meal, sure, but always be ready to try something new.