Amish People Share What Happened To Them After Experiencing Rumspringa
[rebelmouse-image 18345329 is_animated_gif=The Amish are a people the rest of us never seem to understand. They have rules that seem so arbitrary. And laws that just sound ( I'm sorry Amish) completely hard to leave by. Who doesn't use electricity? On purpose! But the laws go deeper than the peripheral. Take it from the people who were able to escape!
Redditor _fiverrseller18 had a quandary about... _Former Amish of Reddit who left the Amish community after Rumspringa: what was your Rumspringa like and why did it convince you to leave?
JUST A TOUCH OF THE AMISH...
So as a farmer who lives in Holmes County, Ohio I can give you some answers. The idea you know as rumspringa is highly romanticized. Children are rebellious and do what they want. As long as their parents don't know they do whatever. As long as the church is fine with it the parents will do as they please. So the entire idea of being Amish is following the church but using every loophole possible to get as much luxury as possible. That's important to know because the idea of a rumspringa is a giant loophole. The kids can buy a truck and other stuff the family can use that they otherwise couldn't. And when you have 12 kids spaced out that's could be 36 years worth of loopholes you can take advantage of. Most of the Amish who leave the church don't do it because of their rumspringa. They are doing it on their own. The rumspringa idea is just a loophole that helps families stay Amish. My friends who left the church are completely shunned and ignored by their families and friends still in the church. When they leave the church, they almost 100% become Mennonite. Which is essentially softcore Amish. Stuff like the women don't wear Amish gowns but pants or Jean skirts.
FIND DORY!!
[rebelmouse-image 18349551 is_animated_gif=My mom housed some Amish kids on Rumspringa back in the 70's. They really liked a lot of stuff, but left with only a fish tank (complete with a ton of fish) and a lot of garden tools.
So they didn't leave the church, but they liked the fish tank.
BUGGIES TO THE SIDE PLEASE!
[rebelmouse-image 18349552 is_animated_gif=Growing up in Northeast Ohio, we ran into plenty of Amish but not to many giving rumspringa a try. They could/can drink beer and fight in some bars in Middlefield like nobody's business, wicked strong too.
Plenty of drunk driving incidents, got love the fact that mister horse can pull your drunk ass home automatically (original AI).
Best is passing a buggy on the road riding my motorcycle and getting a huge smell of weed.
VACATION FOREVER!
[rebelmouse-image 18349553 is_animated_gif=Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio is a great place to encounter Amish kids on rumschpringe. Usually a (relative) ton of them there. I waited in line for a roller coaster with three of them last summer and they said they had no real intention of leaving the community, but were really stoked their community basically paid for a two month long vacation for them.
GOD BLESS PIE!
[rebelmouse-image 18349554 is_animated_gif=My SIL father grew up Amish. When he turned 18 he "jumped the fence." This is the term commonly used when an Amish leaves the church and starts living "English." Dad ran away from home and had only minimal contact with this family since. When his dad died 50+ years later, he went home to attend the funeral. He was not permitted to sit with the family, he ate the funeral meal in an outside barn with non-relative mourners. Most Amish don't leave the church after Rumspringa because in most cases it literally means cutting off all ties with everyone you know. Mother, father, siblings, grandparents, neighbors, friends, aunts, uncles... It's not just their immediate family that will disown them but all the other families in the church will also refuse to speak to them or help them. Most who leave don't leave because of some forbidden fun they experienced during Rumspringa. They typically leave to pursue something the church forbids (education) or because their family is abusive.
The technology that is permitted varies from church to church. The Bishop of the church determines what/if any modern conveniences the church will allow. For example, I have an Amish girl that comes to clean my house. She used to have a cell phone for business purposes. But their Bishop changed the rule and now forbids cell phones. Now only a phone that plugs into the wall is permitted for business use.
For transportation, many Amish hire drivers to take them wherever they want to go. For work (construction amish bosses), shopping (to Wal-Mart, the malls, etc), to appointments (medical, lawyer, etc.), they'll even hire drivers to take them on trips. The Amish actually travel often. Niagra Falls, white water rafting, Florida, etc. My Amish cleaning lady went to Switzerland about 6 months ago. When she is at my house, she uses my vaccuum, listens to the radio or turns the TV on to a music station. (But she usually picks a christian music station)
Church for the Amish is not held in the same building (church) each week like traditional religions. Different families take turns hosting the service in their barns. So church is always in a different place. The sermons/services are very long.
Another tidbit, all siblings will usually have the same middle initial. Their middle name will start with the first letter of their father's name. So if the father's first name is Joseph, his kids middle names might be Jacob, Jennifer, Jonas, Jonathon and Jack.
Also they make amazing fry pies. If you are ever driving down a road there is an Amish buggy sitting there selling fry pies. Stop! You won't be sad.
AMISH TAKE THE WHEEL!!
[rebelmouse-image 18978040 is_animated_gif=I was just driving through the heart of Lancaster amish country yesterday and it occurred to me that the novelty of the amish not driving cars or having electricity can only be about 100 years old. Before that, other than their dress and moral code, you'd probably hardly notice that they were different at all.
OH AUNTIE!
[rebelmouse-image 18978041 is_animated_gif=My cousin was born to an ex Amish woman. My uncle seduced an Amish woman who had already been baptized into the church, got her pregnant, and she got shunned from the community and her family. I call her my _"aunt." S_he still goes and visits her Amish family all the time without the church knowing. They have found out about a few visits and the church threatened her family often that they would punish them, however they never did anything as far as I know. I go and visit them sometimes as well as they are a lot of fun and very laid back Amish people. My uncle never married my "aunt" but as far as I know, she lives a good life.
ICE FOR US ALL!!
[rebelmouse-image 18978042 is_animated_gif=It seems like no one in this thread has mentioned the Amish in Tennessee. Always use horse and buggy and absolutely no electricity except for old engines they use in their sawmills for some reason. They are good neighbors that will occasionally ask for ice if someone is sick.
TELL YOUR TRUTH!
[rebelmouse-image 18345332 is_animated_gif=As someone who is from the most densely populated Amish hotspot in all of the United States, I think you should know that the majority of people who go through Rumspringa come back to the church, and that's speaking from experience interacting with many Amish and a few ex-Amish people I know. Also, this idea of Rumspringa is not what most think it is, it's pretty bland. The Amish and Mennonite people who do the"wild" stuff, start doing it before their Rumspringa period hits. In fact, one of my former neighbors is an old-order Mennonite and he got pulled over for speeding and the cop proceeded to notice two ounces of herb on the floor beneath his passenger seat, this was just after the kid got his license.
Also, ex-Amish people rarely talk about their previous time being Amish. It's hard for their families to come to terms with it and its often a big adjustment getting acclimated to everything the rest of the world experiences. Amish people are also some of the most strong-willed people out there. For example, when Amish Mafia blew up the Amish community didn't say word to the media despite how false that show was. They don't give a crap how the world sees them, they just want to live their lives and be left alone.
Sorry for the rant, but growing up around them it gets frustrating when people find them to be such an amusing community. They're people.
WRONG IS WRONG!
[rebelmouse-image 18978043 is_animated_gif=While I did not grow up Amish, I am ex-Mennonite. The final straw for me was the fact they do not see Christians outside of their own church as Christian, and a particular person at my church who said women in skimpy clothing are essentially asking for it. I might do an AMA about my Mennonite past some day.
There is nothing more frustrating than the things we cannot say, but desperately want to.
Sometimes, we might find ourselves in situations where we are positively desperate to speak up, but for whatever reason can't.
Even though we know deep down, that people will be better off, or things might run more smoothly if we said something.
Redditor MCKlassik was curious to hear the things that people would benefit from hearing, but will likely never be told, leading them to ask:
"What is something most people need to hear but no one has the guts to tell people?"
Think twice before having children
"Some people aren't fit to be parents."- Busy_Quail1725
"A baby will not save your failing relationship."
"Some parents do not love their children."- Optimal-Green9561
When they blame their ex for the break up.
"Sometimes, it is you and not them."- Ok_String_6735
Don't let the smile fool you
"Just because someone is smiling does not mean that they are happy."
"Smiling is also a sign of nervousness or discomfort."- redge9987
Don't always let you feelings guide you
"Your feelings are important, but they can also lead you astray."
"Listen to them, but question them as well to see where you might be wrong."- PapiSurane
No one likes a know it all
"Not everyone needs to hear your opinion on everything."
"It's ok to have an unexpressed thought."
"Yes, I am aware of the irony expressing this thought."- Futurenazgul
Enough with the self pity
"Who you are is not who you are doomed to be."- Smart_Walk8237
When they're one egg short of a dozen
"You need to develop critical thinking and reasoning skills."- balaclavaloungeparty
When their scent precedes them.
"You should take a shower."- SatanOnLSD
In some cases, it might be worse not to say something, especially if it might actually help their situation.
But when that isn't the case, it's probably best to suck up our pride, and keep our big mouths shut.
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Films can be challenging in what they're trying to say, and if that challenge is too much to answer, don't feel bad for having to turn something off.
*The following article contains discussion of sexual assault.Reddit user, Elixir_Jx, wanted to know when a movie was just too much when they asked:
"What’s film is so brutal to watch you had to stop watching it?"
What reason would you have for stopping a movie before it finishes? The cinematography making you dizzy? The subject matter is too much for your to consider?
It'll vary, that's for sure.
"Animals Don't Behave Like Men"
"Watership Down."
"Hey, it's a cartoon, and it has bunnies!"
"Oh dear god..."
eddyathome
Let's Climb High
"Not brutal, but I had to stop watching the doc Free Solo bc my blood pressure couldn’t handle the stress. This was early on when I had no knowledge of the climber and outcome."
NoCanadianCoins
"The Alpinist is the spiritual successor to this because it takes all the danger and pushes the envelope a bit more. However you felt about Free Solo, you’ll feel the same way about The Alpinist, except the guy is a bit more charismatic."
RonyTheTiger
Don't Listen To The Internet. It's Bad.
"Batman and Robin(1997)"
skippedad404
"Batsuit nipples and sh-t zippers."
StickSauce
Perhaps it's the gore that forces you to turn it off, because watching someone being disemboweled for the umpteenth time in a film is not what you consider "entertainment."
Seems Like A Breach Of The Hippocratic Oath...
"I saw some French horror film about a nurse who went to some pregnant ladies house, tormented her, tortured her, then proceeded to cut open her belly with scissors to get the baby out."
DioramaDad
"I think that was called Inside. Not really bothered by gore in movies on the whole but that one definitely left me freaked out on the walk home."
Hairy_Brains
You Need To Pick Better "Family" Movies
"The Last House On The Left. The rape scene in that movie was way too brutal for me to get through it. I can still picture scenes of it for some reason, that's how real and violent it felt. Didn't help that it was a movie that my family decided to watch together either. That said, we still tease my mom for picking that movie out as some weird shared trauma bonding experience all these years later. So maybe it wasn't a bad family movie after all????"
lastcallcarrot
You Should See His Joker...
"Requiem for a dream"
_Bendemic_
"Watched it on a date."
"There was not a second."
MagnificentSyndicate
Sound Makes Everything
"While I didn't stop watching, Bone Tomahawk was just..... jaezus"
wolf_of_thorns
"I stopped but then shortly after gathering myself watched that scene. I think the worst of it is the sound. Whoever did the sound engineering for that scene, from the dude letting out this last gasp of pain he has to the splitting part all of it leaves a lasting impression"
The_Crescent
Romantic Revenge With Pretty Dresses
"Midsommar - I think its a psychological horror, I didn't stop watching but it was the most uncomfortable I have ever felt while watching a movie."
"The movie itself is very trippy and honestly disturbing."
Balderino
Whatever your reason for turning it off, trust your gut. If it's not giving you a good feeling, then maybe it's not the film for you.
There's A Message Buried Under All The Blegh
"a serbian film. awful sh-t"
tlep
"I finished it when I was a rebellious 21 year old solely out of spite and wanting to see "the most banned movie" and boy do I wish I'd turned it off."
Wolf-Track
"It was awful to watch. But (if I remember correctly) the film was made as a statement on the Serbian government. To tell the story of people born into a sh*tty system which they cannot escape."
"In that respect it was an incredible film. However I have to say that, I don't necessarily agree with the visual imagery, it was brutal and perhaps could have been toned down abit."
"Though arguably had to be done to get the point across to an audience who otherwise would have ignored it."
Awordforsynonym
A Movie About Kids. What Could Go Wrong?
"Grave of the Fireflies. One of the only movies I've ever stopped watching partway through."
Janube
"Brilliant but one of the darkest movies I've ever seen."
ferox965
A Grim View Of Our World
"Threads. The most terrifying movie I've ever seen about nuclear disaster. tl;dr it's not something you want to survive"
standrightwalkleft
"It's not even a horror movie, it's a docudrama. That's just how horrific the subject matter is."
"A lot of apocalypse movies offer a very romantic view of what things would be like. Threads (and The Road) show a much more realistic view of it. Just humans slowly becoming feral as they struggle to survive in nightmarish hellscape."
"I made it as far as the hospital scene, stopped watching, and decided that if the nukes are ever flying, the best thing to do is to pray to whatever deity you believe in (or not), then step outside and watch the fireworks."
Steam_whale
The Good Guys Will Never Win
"Funny Games"
AVBforPrez
"My husband turned it on and started watching it not knowing it. I’m like “oh this is interesting…He’s so annoying! Just leave her alone…Wait what…I can’t watch, but I can’t turn away…”
Wam_2020
Summaries are there for a reason, people. Let's start reading them before we press play, especially when our families are in the room.
Was there a movie you turned off partway through? Tell us about it in the comments!
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Former Inmates Disclose Which Things People On The Outside Wouldn't Understand About Prison
Being a law-abiding citizen shouldn't be that difficult.
As long as people obey the rules, maintain their morals, and avoid making extremely bad decisions, they will never see the walls inside a prison cell.
Unfortunately, people do often break the law and find themselves in the slammer where their contemplations on life choices come a little too late.
But now that they have nowhere to go, what is the wisdom inmates acquire?
Curious to hear what some of those might be, Redditor Max_Fenig asked:
"Former inmates of Reddit, what are some things about prison that people outside wouldn't understand?"
Many speculations about life behind bars are confirmed here.
Boredom
"how boring it is. you spend your entire time just waiting. waiting for court. waiting for a sentence. waiting to get out. it’s a level of boredom i never want to experience again."
– Necessary-Rabbit-340
Misery Loves Company
"Starchy food and a lack of dental care."
– tacopony_789
Waiting In Lines
"Seriously. Between regular prison stuff, it's all just waiting in lines. Picking up commissary? Go wait in line. Doctors appointment? We'll wake you up at 4am so you can go wait in line. (Also, why did the doctors always have to check me out at 4am? One time, they woke me up for medical and for a split sec I didn't know where I was so I just put my hands down my pants and went back to sleep. Guards just laughed and told me to wake my a** up...lol)"
– nnnoooeee
Like A Psych Ward
"No kidding. Your feeling of helplessness is so intense. I sat there thinking I was just a bit down and sad. So now you lock me up and treat me like child and expect me to suddenly be happy? I didn't gain anything from it except learning to keep my sadness to myself and not reach out for help."
"Left the place barely being able to function from my depression to being so drugged up I could barely function. No change in my status to society etc. Just a change in the cause."
– Ashotep
Some former inmates miss the established sense of order and the mundanity of life in prison.
Weird Kind Of Freedom
"Sometimes you miss it once you're out."
"There are some days where I just feel defeated by the daily stresses of life, and I remember being able to wake up every day and not really have to worry about a lot of things: I don't have rent or utilities to pay, I don't have to go grocery shopping, I don't have to do yard work, I don't have to keep a schedule of places to be and worry about making sure I have enough time to get from place to place or anything. It was a weird kind of freedom while being extremely un-free."
– bstyledevi
The School Analogy
"I think this is part of what I miss about being a kid. School was like an optimistic 'prison' in that we were told what to do and when. But that in itself was freeing, because I didn’t have to worry about planning the day, or my life. I didn’t miss out on things bc we all went to the same things. It felt like the guidance we had would make everything turn out okay."
"This is part of what’s difficult about being an adult, that you don’t know what you’re doing. You don’t know if youre making the best choices, you constantly fear missing out on other things while doing anything, you got no guarantee of social interaction with others. People aren’t trusting of you by default, and every first interaction is an attempt to convince people that you’re a good enough person to engage with."
"Someone’s always there to catch you from falling and help you out in school as a kid. As an adult, there’s no safety net, no one’s coming to save you, because you’re on your own."
– ItActuallyIsGullible
Going Through The Motions
"Yeah, its so easy once you get used to it. Everything is figured out for you, you got a stable rutine and there are clear rules and bounderies. Also you usually have a tight group of friends that you share everything with."
"I spend a year in the army as a conscript and I was pretty down after it ended, because I had to return to a life of a young man where everything was still so unclear and difficult."
– ManyPerformance9608
Finding A Community
"Honestly, it's not always so bad. These days there are so many drug addicts in low sec prisons that they sometimes group them together in the same blocks. I was one of them, and everyone was respectful and friendly. When I got there I was in full opiate withdrawal and my cell mates gave me food and comfort to help me get through it. This is not always the case, for sure, but I've dealt with worse people on the outside than when I was locked up."
– boston_nsca
For the most part, ex-cons believed the reality of life in prison didn't closely reflect Hollywood depictions.
Don't Rock The Boat
"Ex-Con here. One thing about Prison I feel like people don’t understand when I tell them my story is that Prison (at least for me) isn’t entirely like what it is in the media. Yeah sure there is Riots, Yard fights, people get shanked, and there scary dudes who look like they want to kill you but in reality they just look mean and scary as a way to protect themselves. For instance there was this big tough dude who was actually a chill dude and got cigs and stuff for others guys if you treated him right. So in reality if you treat other inmates right and don’t bad mouth anyone then you’ll be fine. Just don’t do the what the 'skinny idiot' did, and that is act all SUPER tough and get in peoples faces because that is what will get you beaten up."
– Suitable_Panic_7558
Surprising Civility
"Prison society is exceptionally polite 99% of the time. Inmates have some of the best manners of anyone you will ever interact with. They hold doors for the next person even if they are far away and have to wait. They say please and thank you. They do not insult each other or show disrespect."
"If you are ever in prison and see inmates acting impolite towards each other, get the f'k out of there. That 1% when it's not polite is extraordinarily violent and dangerous."
– Duke_Shambles
Unexpected Comfort
"I'll take a different angle on this instead of the usual horror stories, as violent and crazy as it was, there were a lot of good parts too. As someone that has had a pretty chaotic life, having a secure day to day life, employment and lots of trusted friends around me for a few years was really nice."
"There's a certain level of comfort that comes with being surrounded by murderers that you're actually friends with, new inmates come and go but you're tucked away in the long term unit where there's a 3 month waiting list to even apply to transfer in, it really was a very peaceful experience for me."
– Totallycasual
Based on the majority of what was shared here, it may seem those of us who have never served a sentence have wrongful impressions of life behind bars.
We just have to take their word for it.
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I know we're a culture full of over the top whiners.
We love to go on and on about all the things that bother us.
And all of the life impediments that stand in the way of our happiness.
But we need to dial it down a notch.
There is a difference between actual bodily harm and an inconvenience.
Redditorseesnawsnappywanted to mull over what aspects of life make us feel like actual pain but maybe we're exaggerating. They asked:
"What isn't torture but feels like it?"
I hated waiting tables. You have no idea the actual torture, ok not actual, but misery one must endure.
Dial Up
"Slow internet."
sev45day
"Slow internet : pretty salty"
"Connected but no internet : a n g r y"
Out of the Way!
"Traffic when you’re already late."
EdibleTurds
"Being stuck in traffic, and having a poop locked and loaded in the chamber. Stupid drivers wrecking all the time and having me prairie doggin' for an extra hour."
pineappledaddy
"Worst part for me is I don't have to poop until Im stuck in the car i get the urge before I leave and I try to go and it doesn't happen but when I'm the car without a bathroom within 50 miles it's like I've taken a laxative it's so terrible."
bknox1789
Extensions...
"Food delivery being over the estimated time."
leswhinin
"Or when the time keeps getting extended further and further and further and you have a 6 AM flight the next morning and then you check and it turns out the restaurant closed 2.5 hours ago but Doordash still says that a Dasher was waiting for an order and you have to give up and have sleep for dinner."
THROWRA302376
Midday Blues
"Having a 230 appointment the whole day is ruined."
LikelyGeoduck85
"I had one of those today! It was the only appt available this week, and fell right in the middle of an 8 hour shift. So I left and took my cat to the vet, brought her home, and went back to work. Honestly, not nearly as bad as if it was scheduled on an off day. Lucky to have a boss that understands pet needs, too."
verycoolfarts
If I hear that song again... I can't even think about it.
Swollen Glands
"I caught strep for the first time in my early twenties when working at a daycare/preschool, and it actually was torture. My throat was so swollen it felt like I was swallowing glass and every time I tried to swallow I couldn't really get all my saliva to go down so I was pretty sure I was just going to drown in my own spit."
Timely-Tea3099
It's Lost
"When you lose 5g and it kicks you back down to 4 and it won’t load a webpage even though 2 years ago it would’ve had it up in 2 seconds."
EggsAndBeerKegs
"Long story short with physics, it’s frequency vs power. Then providers think they need to upgrade some parts but not others. There’s a reason, but it’s a stupid reason."
hoosier268
"This makes me furious. How in the hell is having only 4g as slow as when we didn't have 4g at all years ago? Ridiculous."
FainOnFire
MOVE IT!!
"Being on one of those slow-moving people movers and stuck behind someone who is just standing there instead of walking."
bassistmuzikman
"I yelled 'get out of the way' this morning to a guy that was walking slow when a car was behind him and I need to get to where the car was coming from."
coolcrushkilla
Eternity
"Waiting at the doctor's office. (USA). They have the audacity to charge you a fee for being late and calling it a 'no-show' but damned if I've ever been to a 2pm appointment that actually began earlier than 2:30-2:45."
sexapotamus
"45 minutes is ok, in France we don't pay for doctors but it's possible to wait 2 or 3h after the original time of appointment."
Rabanaaash
"I remember having regular appointments for physical therapy that never started on time. The magazines in the waiting room were crap, so I started bringing a really long novel with me."
Annihilated_Matter
Forever
"Watching 2 unskippable 30 second ads, it's only a minute but it feels like an eternity."
Formal_Activity5040
Well there are worse things in life. We do whine a lot.
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