When it comes to art and childcare, both are highly exploited pastimes.
Many consumers believe there is little that goes into the creating of art beyond the purchasing of art supplies and that little beyond instinct goes into child care.
These same people will even argue that exposure is all an artist or care provider should really need: all of those pieces could go into a portfolio and those experiences with kids will surely help to spruce up that resume.
But artists and care providers are here to tell you that all "exposure" gets you is a hospital visit.
But one dad was able to exploit both service providers in one fell swoop when he refused to pay his wife's best friend for babysitting when she refused to create artwork for free.
A little backstory: a woman posted on the subReddit "r/ChoosingBeggars." She shared copies of her text message exchange with her best friend's husband.
The woman had just recently watched the married couple's children for four days and believed, according to the wife, that she was being paid for the time. Upon picking the children up, the husband observed some of the woman's art supplies that she keeps in her home, ready for inspiration or for commissioned work.
The husband came up with the idea, in a later text exchange with the woman, that she could use some of her supplies to create a family portrait of the married couple with their children, for free as a Christmas present to her best friend. When the woman showed resistance, explaining that those supplies and her time are not free, the husband tried to bargain with her, stating that he would consider paying her for the time she'd spent babysitting.
You can see the full exchange here:
r/ChoosingBeggars - Friend’s husband doesn’t want to pay me for babysitting because I won’t paint a free painting from them. Even when I told them I’d do it for very cheap if they bought the canvas. from ChoosingBeggars
First, there's the ask.
Followed by the reveal he has no intention of paying for her babysitting services.
Which was news to her.
Ah, yes, the ever helpful "exposure" angle.
Because that pays the bills.
Then the brush off.
Good for her!
But even after his parting shot, he just couldn't get the hint.
Seriously‽
The woman posted screenshots of the texts in the subReddit with no other comment, explanation, or updates on what resulted after the conversation (though we certainly hope she didn't say yes to watching the children that next day!).
The conversation alone sparked immeasurable interest, as countless people shared how they had been offered "exposure" in exchange for their art, time, or care services, as well as examples of how they'd completed a project and never been paid.
"Whoa that guy is a straight up a------. Hope you got paid for babysitting but I'd say never do it again and don't f------ talk to him again- he's a d---"
- zzthefrenchie
"$5,000 on gifts, can't even pay someone for 30hrs+ of work. Priorities for this dude are f----- up"
- CryptoSputnik
"'Hey your life sucks because your greedy I'm never bringing my kids around you! Oh wait my babysitter isn't available I'll have —— drop them off.' F--- that dude"
- Kraken74
"I like how he says "I'm won't be bringing my kid anymore" as if he thought having OP watch his kids for no pay was somehow a reward for OP and something to extort her with"
- nardsy43
"Seems to be a reoccurring thing on this sub. They think it's an honour for others to do their bidding for thy majesty."
"Seriously it must be some sort of mental disability from a class of narcissism."
- feelsogod808
No matter how this exchange eventually worked out, if the woman was paid for the babysitting or if she was eventually offered a commission for a family portrait, being treated this way at all isn't okay.
Whether or not someone perceives art or child care as a valuable product, it cannot be argued that it didn't take time to complete that piece or to care for those children.
At the end of the day, everyone's time is valuable, and when a product results from that time, they should be compensated, period.
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Redditor Deviant55 wanted to talk about physical intimacy in relationships, so they asked:
"How important is sex to you in a relationship? Could you be with someone you love even if sex was off the table indefinitely?"
I learned how much sex matters in my last relationship.
Once I wasn't interested, it kind of killed everything.
Forever
GIF by moodmanGiphy"When my wife of 30+ years became too ill for sex to be even remotely interesting for her, I certainly did not end the relationship. I loved her and I took care of her until she died. No other course even occurred to me."
fvillion
Frustration
"When I met my wife we couldn’t keep our hands off each other. This lasted a few years. I was in my mid-twenties when we married. She developed a chronic medical issue. I’ve gone twenty years being sexually frustrated. There are stages and phases to this."
"What I came to realize is that I love my wife. Yes, sex is important in our relationship. But I would rather have her in my life with no sex than have sex without her."
"The thing is, I love her. She can’t help her situation. I can’t help it. One deals with it. Marriage is more than sex. It is building a life and memories, raising a family, and loving each other regardless of the challenges life throws our way. But sex is very important. It helps keep the closeness and the emotional bond. But it isn’t the only thing that does that."
QuietusNoctis
I Love Her
"It is complicated. I am in a near-sexless marriage. The wife needs antidepressants to function. And it kills her libido. So usually it is four to six times a year. My libido rages. And yeah, it sucks. I dream of more sex."
"But I love the chick. She loves me to the moon and back. I’m not willing to sacrifice her love so I can try dating again. Divorce rates these days? And I found a woman who more than tolerates me, she loves me. I’ll stay. And not to be crude but yeah I masturbate. A lot. She doesn’t begrudge me that. Occasionally she even encourages it."
"She went off her meds for a while. And man did we do it. But she was a mess. I need her healthy more than I need a shag. We travel together. We enjoy each other’s company. We actually like each other. I could claim that it is hell, but I choose to see all of the good I am blessed with."
painthawg_goose
Heartless
"Quite important. But I think it depends on where you are in the relationship. I've been married for 10 years. I have kids. If my wife suddenly couldn't have sex with me for some reason -- illness or injury or something -- I'm not divorcing her over it. That's heartless."
"Now, if she just decided we weren't ever having sex again because she didn't feel like it, that'd be different. Or if I was just starting to date someone and they told me they'd never have sex, I probably just wouldn't keep pursuing the relationship. Plenty of people out there who will."
Arkhangelzk
Necessity
"It depends on the circumstances. I LOVE doing it with my man but I love his heart and soul more. If we had to stop having sex for medical reasons or something I’d definitely stay with him and stay faithful. If I was single, I think it’s unlikely I’d start a new relationship knowing it would be sex free."
Fit_Technology8240
Heart and soul is just as necessary and hot and sweaty.
At least a lot of people recognize that.
Percentages
Giphy"Sex life is 10% of a relationship when it’s good and 90% of a relationship when it’s bad."
jakovichontwitch
"The other way I've heard it put is that sex is like the bathroom in your house. It's not the only reason you bought the house, but if it's not working it's a big problem."
molten_dragon
Age Related
"50-year-old here married for 27 years. It’s not important. It was important when we were younger but honestly, if sex wasn’t possible I would still love my wife and really nothing about our day would really change."
Kantforall
"I’ve been reading these comments and wishing that everyone’s age was flared on their post because I sense that there are a lot of under-60-year-olds. I am older than my wife but she is starting menopause and I can see the writing on the wall. Not super thrilled but I love her completely and understand. The real intimacy is in how we still (and will always) want to sleep touching each other and waking up next to each other."
caffeinated-hijinx
Kiss Me
"I honestly considered this before. I absolutely adored this guy. It was like a child relationship; we'd kiss and cuddle and hold hands and things, but he wouldn't have sex with me, nor would he commit properly. Any time we came close to sex, he'd go soft or back off."
"I couldn't understand it, wondered if I could keep doing that. My sex drive was wild. Why kiss and the rest but not sex?"
"Then one day he told me he was in love with me and asked me out properly. I said yes there and then, had a wonderful day with him, but when I went home, I was left questioning if I could possibly live without sex. I decided that yeah, I loved him but it would be tough."
"We had sex the next day. So yes, I think I probably could."
Adventurous_Train_48
Touchy/affectionate...
"It's very important. I'm a very affectionate and physical person and touch/caresses and anything physical is one of my love languages. I couldn't function with someone who is the opposite of me or who's uncomfortable with how I am. I already was in a relationship with someone who wasn't that touchy/affectionate and it created frustration for both of us."
Borboleta77
Don't Look at Me
"I am in a sexless relationship. He has erectile dysfunction and I really don't like sex in general. I'm really uncomfortable naked or even vulnerable. I'm shy around him despite the relationship being 10 years nearly, I'm even shy around my family and friends. Everything about sex makes me feel so embarrassed, and I feel nothing but negative feelings when I used to be sexually active. Not through choice of partner, I just hate that sort of attention."
NucularOrchid
Definitive!
Shake Handshake GIF by OriginalsGiphy"10/10. Sexual incompatibility is a deal breaker!"
oeeiae
Sex is important but not everything.
Until it is everything if it becomes an issue.
Good luck couples. Open and honest communication is key.
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