That 'Star Trek' Symbol Discovered On Mars Has Sparked An Epic Feud Between William Shatner And Mark Hamill
Galaxies collided when Star Wars' Mark Hamill and Star Trek's William Shatner went head to head online.
Shatner claimed his franchise's superiority over the beloved Star Wars franchise when NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter captured a familiar image of a surface formation on Mars.
The Orbiter discovered a chevron-shaped symbol evocative of "Star Trek's" Starfleet–the fictional service maintained by the United Federation of Planets that organizes space exploration, diplomacy, research, defense and peacekeeping–insignia.
Wait, what??!!? Whoa... NASA orbiter spots 'Star Trek' symbol on Mars - CNN https://t.co/kIHTkDXK8h— LeVar Burton (@LeVar Burton)1560489572.0
Shatner, who is known for playing Captain James T. Kirk on the Star Trek TV series and in films, seized an opportunity.
"Hey @starwars! Will you hurry up your Rebel Scums? We beat you!"
Hey @starwars! Will you hurry up your Rebel Scums? 🙄 We beat you! 😉😝👇🏻 https://t.co/b53KxKlAlj— William Shatner (@William Shatner)1560453505.0
It didn't take long for the Jedi master to detect a petulant disturbance in the force.
Hamill, the 67-year-old actor who is known for his iconic role as Luke Skywalker in Star Wars, saw something else in the captured image.
Looks like a boomerang to me. #Meh 🙄 https://t.co/mpYAbBrDgw— Mark Hamill (@Mark Hamill)1560566650.0
Shatner, 88, continued poking and prodding his newest nemesis.
@HamillHimself Don’t be jelly, Mark. https://t.co/W3CjfNj50V— William Shatner (@William Shatner)1560567588.0
Fans of both geeked out over the galactic clash, with one user declaring the "Mars race" victory going to Shatner.
I'm always up for a good #StarTrek vs #StarWars debate. The Mars race goes to Captain Kirk @WilliamShatner. Your tu… https://t.co/ludJrSgfER— Joel M. Petlin (@Joel M. Petlin)1560713420.0
Hamill commented on the presumptuous fan's unsolicited remark.
"Who made you Judge Judy & executioner?"
@Joelmpetlin @WilliamShatner @starwars Who made you Judge Judy & executioner?— Mark Hamill (@Mark Hamill)1560715089.0
The rivalry between the two universes goes way back to when George Lucas bestowed Star Wars onto moviegoers in 1977 to global success.
But Star Wars wasn't the first Sci-Fi phenomenon with a strong foothold on pop culture. That distinction belonged to Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek, which aired as a television series from 1966 to 1969 on CBS.
The supernova scuffle was not over.
Shatner fired back:
"Looks like someone touched a #RawNerve. Too bad you never came on my talk show we could have talked about your Daddy issues both onscreen and off!"
Ooooh😱 😳 Looks like someone touched a #RawNerve...😏. Too bad you never came on my talk show we could have talked ab… https://t.co/d3Nhu7GVck— William Shatner (@William Shatner)1560715897.0
But Hamill came in for the perfect landing when he implied that the measure of success was based on a certain expansion at a popular theme park.
@WilliamShatner You had your own talk show? A well kept secret indeed. Get back to me when you have own… https://t.co/KZdZlYUIY0— Mark Hamill (@Mark Hamill)1560727535.0
@Joelmpetlin @WilliamShatner @HamillHimself @starwars Yeah, there's a colony in Anaheim...— Tito Está Encendido (@Tito Está Encendido)1560716752.0
The Trekkers (or Trekkies) made their final decision.
@WilliamShatner @starwars It’s only logical to conclude that was Vulcan work.— Dan Timoney (@Dan Timoney)1560454642.0
@djtimoney @WilliamShatner @starwars https://t.co/r1sTlP3Tn9— Captain Bearddock 🌈 (@Captain Bearddock 🌈)1560475865.0
@WilliamShatner @starwars Boom! ⚡️⚡️⚡️🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥 #StarTrek nation has boldly been there, done that. dc— Donna Cordova (@Donna Cordova)1560453830.0
The Star Wars contingent boasted they were far, far away from an incidental planet.
@WilliamShatner We’re ‘far far away’ from that tiny red planet. https://t.co/pdZlJehflS— Star Wars (@Star Wars)1560459272.0
Star Wars fans would do best to remember they will always have the moon.
@WilliamShatner @starwars But Saturn's Moon Mimas looks like the Death Star, so they beat you guys first, My Captai… https://t.co/Aqo50JzX9R— Kevin Stern (@Kevin Stern)1560556930.0
@WilliamShatner @starwars https://t.co/zx3lcifIA9— Mara Jade Skywalker (@Mara Jade Skywalker)1560483102.0
It appears we've found the dark side of the moon.
@HamillHimself @Joelmpetlin @WilliamShatner @starwars Turns out they just zoomed in on that one spot lmao. https://t.co/v8KcxFAdZ9— ☠Vader☠ (@☠Vader☠)1560715524.0
Can peace be restored?
@HamillHimself @WilliamShatner Now boys! Play nice!— Emily Miller 🌈 (@Emily Miller 🌈)1560727677.0
According to CNN, the mark found on the southeast Hellas Planitia region of Mars was created by an eruption of lava at some point in Martian history and flowed around the crescent-shaped dunes instead of covering them.
Winds left behind these "dune casts" in the lava field, and there is no indication the mark was created by the United Federation of Planets.
That we know of.
In 2018, William Shatner released the memoir Live Long And . . .: What I Learned Along the Way, available here. And while Hamill has yet to pen his own memoir, actress and close friend Carrie Fisher's memoir The Princess Diarist, available here, features stories from behind the scenes of the Star Wars franchise.
You can also show your Team Hamill or Team Shatner allegiance with either a Luke Skywalker shirt...
...available here, or a Captan Kirk shirt...
People who talk smack about others are often viewed as rude individuals.
But sometimes, they are taking the hit for not exercising tact. The truth is, they might be verbalizing about a situation we have secretly thought about but keep to themselves.
When it comes to reserving judgment about people and their situations, many of us can relate to this. It is what separates us from those who aren't able to keep their observations to themselves.
"What's something you secretly judge people about?"
People seeking validation in excess on the internet are met with criticism.
Social Media Portrayal
"What part of their life are they posting on social media."
"My husband has a friend who has a psycho girlfriend that posts really personal sh*t online. Like, she sent her boyfriend some racy photos and he didn't 'react like he should have' so she shared them online with a comment about how she thought the photos were sexy and he must not find her attractive anymore. I was embarrassed for her. She also likes to make up stories about him hitting her then update a few hours later that she's sorry and she lied and he didn't hit her. And these people are in their 30s with children and still acting like that."
"What they say about their kids in social media. I get that being a parent is hard and it's okay to talk/vent/be real about that online, but sometimes people cross the line and talk about their kids as if they're not real people, just because they're not grown and don't have a Facebook account. People should imagine what their kids would think of they were all grown up and reading your internet history. If you think they would be hurt by what you said, don't post it."
Headphones are there for a reason. But these offenders are not considerate enough to use them.
"People who use speaker phone for music or conversations in public places. I hate it."
"My roommate uses speaker at all times. We'll be watching TV and he will literally answer the phone and talk on speaker. One time had the audacity to say me and this other guy wouldn't stop talking and he couldn't hear his gf. Same with music too, he'll play some some music in the middle of whatever I'm watching. Annoying as all f'k."
"My old roommate would use speaker to talk to her family at college so I joined the conversation the entire time, she constantly told me to 'shut the f'k up' in front of her mom, so I said 'then dont use speaker dumba**.'"
Views from entitled people might say the following:
"How they treat janitors/custodial staff and whether people leave more of a mess than they should because 'it's their job to clean up after me.'"
"How snobbish another person reacts to someone else's situation. I. E. When someone finds out information about another persons wage, job, family situation, living situation, etc etc etc, and making a comment on it."
Do you ever feel like your ears are burning? Yeah, it's probably because of people like these:
"People that gossip to me about other people. I always wonder what they say about me behind my back."
"One of my favorite office tricks is to gossip relentlessly, but to keep it at least 90% positive. People can and do find out that I've been going around, behind their backs, and spreading rumors about how great they are."
"Obviously it creates a nice work environment, but by being willing to gossip, people are more willing to tell me things that aren't necessarily public yet."
What annoys me about the things people do have more to do with my growing impatience after having lived in New York City for over a decade.
Customers in fast food joints not knowing what to order after being in line for a sufficient amount of time grates me.
The increasing convenience of mobile ordering has been the best thing to come out of the pandemic that has kept me from losing my marbles.
Wherever we go, there are social norms and expectations being jammed down our throats.
The people around us, all exposed to similar media messages and massive, powerful institutions, internalize these norms and police each other without even realizing it.
These constructs are so plentiful and subtle that they can be hard to even notice.
But once in awhile we take a step back. We zoom out. Then we see just how arbitrary and one-dimensional so many of those norms are.
Those epiphanies can be disorienting, but so empowering, too. A recent thread on Reddit asked people to share their biggest gripes about all the things forced on us.
Redditor Snoo79382 asked:
"What should society stop forcing on us?"
The internet, as it has many facets of modern life, has accelerated the rate at which things are jammed down our throats. Not a day goes by that we're not on the hook for one thing or another.
"Subscription based services. Everybody out here wants your money now on a monthly schedule."
"The need to create an account for EVERY website or software. Wtf, I just want to install my graphics drivers! There's no reason for you to know who I am, you already have many thousands of my monies."
Others discussed work and work culture. It's such a large portion of our lives, and, according to these folks, the whole thing can be handled better.
Resist the Urge to Monetize
"The idea of hobbies becoming 'side hustles.' Why can't a hobby just be a hobby" -- Electrical-Mammoth44
"Like my father always said: Don't turn your hobby into your work, because you'll have to find a new hobby." -- JustAGuy401
"Having to constantly be busy and only have 2 days to recover from it." -- Octo-Fishy
"I find the whole 5 days a week on, 2 off thing pretty infuriating. I work a 9-5 and would easily be done everything in way less time but I am required to drag it out for no reason." -- condor1111800
Passing the Buck
"Donating your vacation time to coworkers because the company you work for is shi**y. There was a natural disaster and one of the stores in the chain I worked for got flooded."
"Instead of just giving people time off because they literally couldn't work they asked everyone to give up the few paid days off we got a year. Most of us got less than a week off a year."
And others talked about the social expectations pushed on us by our friends, family members, acquaintances, and everything in between.
Aren't There Plenty Already?
"Well no one is forcing anyone, but everyone assumes you want from have kids. And if you don't everyone has a lot of questions and they start judging and trying to change your mind."
Take Your Time
"The idea that people should have their sh*t together and their life planned out at the age of 20. I'm 19 and still wanna play my pokemon games and the future scares me :')"
"The belief that you HAVE to date, have sex, and get married. Some of us don't want to do any of that and there's nothing wrong with it. I'm sick of the social pressure to date."
Racing Against Fantasy
"There should be laws about how heavily photoshopped pictures are meant to be to sell anything beauty related."
"Being constantly surrounded by images of perfection is seriously damaging to people's mental health, and the implication that a product will make you look Like This is simply false advertising when the model doesn't actually look Like This and has been heavily airbrushed at the very least."
And so, taking a cue from these Redditors, it's a good time to remember that we don't have to cave to any of this stuff if we don't want to.
It's always fun to be a little naughty, isn't it? We all have that urge to pickpocket a little something now and again. (Not that we should, that would be wrong, unless it's from Walmart; I jest.)
But we all love to dabble in the devious, the feeling can break up the monotony of the day.
That's why it's always fun to sometimes participate in an action or be aware of a knowledge that feels like it should get us arrested.
It maybe naughty but it ain't illegal.
Redditor u/poisionivey3 wanted to see who was willing to spill some secret tea by asking:
What's a piece of information you know that feels illegal to know?
Eating grapes for testing at the grocery store. Everyone does it. Is it technically illegal? Does that count? I mean as long as I don't treat it like Golden Coral, I should fine, yet it feels so mischievous.
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"I'm trying to lockpick. I'm terrified how easy was pick my bicycle lock. My first attempt and it took 5 minutes."
"We can all easily find out what people paid for their house. Seems kind of personal, but it's very public. Same with divorce records."
"People being able to look up that crap is obnoxious as a semi-new homeowner. Spammers scour that crap, so the first 6 months 90% of your mail is trying to sell you mortgage insurance (the home equivalent of the car "extended waranTEE" scam calls), and a fair number of the telemarketer calls I get are people trying to purchase my house (I haven't listened to any of those long enough to know what the angle is there)."
"Elvis Presley's autopsy will be released in 2027."
In the Air
"According to what a flight attendant told me, the TVs on airplanes that charge you to watch aren't connected to the wifi when they're at the gate, so you can scan any card that resembles a debit card. They just store the info to be charged later, so if you give them a bogus card, you might still be able to get free tv."
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"Nutmeg, when eaten in large quantities, is a psychedelic drug that can cause hallucinations, coma, or even death."
Nutmeg for the high? Now I wish I had known that sooner! Also, I never thought about lockpicking being shady. So many useful tips here. Let's see who else is a bandit in the making.
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"Youtube Vanced is a free app that's basically Youtube premium without spending money."
"Really (before 1997/98 or so) old microsoft product keys relied on a REALLY simple validity check. They were numbers in the form XXXX-YYYYYYY. The first 4 digits were specific to the software (I think Office 97 was 0402?) and fixed. The last 7 .. the check was just that the sum of all digits has to be able to be divided by 7 without rest. So 1111111 worked all the time. 1234567 worked all the time, 7777777 did."
10 Items or Less
"If your local Walmart is closed overnight but there are employees working there, the doors probably aren't locked and the self check registers are on. There's actually nothing keeping you from going in there, picking up a few items, using self checkout and walking out. I work at Walmart overnight and this guy did that a couple nights ago. He didn't speak English and when a manager noticed him they actually just escorted him to grab his items, check out and go."
Show me thew $$$
"How much my coworkers make."
"How a lot of places just let you and a friend in if you wear a construction vest and helmet and carry a ladder."
"Back in the day, we used to go to this very popular night club, where people started lining up at 6pm. Met a guy inside partying one night wearing an orange construction vest. He said he bypassed the entire line and they let him right in the door, because he was wearing that vest and carrying a clipboard. He told the bouncers he was the Fire Marshal."
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"If you want to disrupt an airport it is usually super easy to drive, walk, boat etc onto the tarmac directly and security will rarely notice you before you're already causing problems. Used to write marketing copy for security companies. 90% of our airport copy was "hey wanna have some security on the back end? no? maybe?"
Ok, I'm totally trying that air traffic, runway thing. Though this really makes me feel even more anxious about our airport security. Like... how is that possible? I'm gonna need more Xanax for my next flight.
We've all said something stupid, let's not lie to ourselves.
It's okay to say something stupid. It showcases the real person on the inside, that we're all flawed, imperfect, and made of cooky combinations of words that don't necessarily line up to make sense. Sometimes we're nervous in a situation, other times we're just hitting 'Quick Reply' in our brains and what comes out doens't work, but whatever the reason, you for sure are going to remember it, late at night, for the rest of your life.
What is the stupidest thing that ever came out of your mouth?
You may not have to change your home address because of these moments, but you should probably reconsider how many public outings you go to afterwards.
Should Probably Never Shop At That Store Again
"When the cashier said "Have a nice day", and I replied with "No, thanks".
"Background: I wasnt thinking straight that day, and thought they said "Do you want a bag"
That's. How. Twins. Work?
"Her: the twins are 3 years old"
"Me: Both of them?"
"Oh no this unearthed a memory i had buried from kindergarten lmao"
"We had a set of twins in our classroom and once on their birthday party I said "your brother got such a cool party, i hope yours is nice like this too" to one of them and he was like "yeah, this one"
"4 year old me was not a very bright kid"
That's. How. Death. Works...
"Watching the documentary 'The Last Dance' when a Kobe interview pops up -"
"Me: "Wow, they must have filmed this before Kobe died."
"My wife: "Yeah, obviously…."
The cringe comes out of nowhere, and you're not even sure how you were able to ask something so incredibly stupid, but here you are. Lounging in the stupid air.
You Should Have Asked What "Nothing" Tastes Like Next
"In my head I was wondering what one pound of water would look like in terms of volume. What I said out loud however was "How much does a pound of water weigh?"
Keep Up With Me
"A couple of months ago, I got up and drove to work as usual. Later, my girlfriend texted me from home to ask me if she had left her sunglasses in my car. I told her I wasn't sure, but she could grab my spare key and go check."
"In my car."
"Which I had driven to work."
Black Is White, White Is Black
"I don't understand why people place bets on who wins, why not just place bets on who loses?"
"Yeah took me a minute to register what I said..."
And then there's these stories, where the person is probably better off cutting off any human contact henceforth going forward. These are rough to get through, folks.
Should Probably Have A Chat With HR After This
"I was about 4 months into my current job, feeling confident being fresh off the contract-to-hire period, now moved into a coveted full time role. While walking back to my office from the morning kanban I was stopped by my boss, head peeking out of the office:"
"Boss: "Hey TheMediator, do you have a sec?"
"Me: "For you, I've got lots of secs!"
"Boss: wide-eyes, mouth dropped"
"If you're curious why this was incredibly stupid/embarrassing, try saying the phrase "lots of secs" out loud. Preferably, not to your boss though."
You Don't Need College Anymore. Go Home. Bury Your Head In The Sand.
"In my freshman year of college I was dorming next door to a couple cute girls. About a week into the first semester one girl walked from the coed showers to her dorm room in her towel still wet. We were both unlocking our doors to get in our rooms when she looks at me and says…"
"I know I look stunning…(sarcastically)"
"To which I replied, "don't flatter yourself."
"I had to slid a note under her door explaining I was tongue tied as she was beautiful and I meant to say "don't be hard on yourself, you look great." (Or something to that nature). We became good friends."
It's In The Descriptor?
"Chatting to a homeless guy on the street and he told me he was feeling unwell. I told him he should be at home, resting."
"It's been 20 years and the memory of it still brings me out in a cold sweat."
Oh Good Lord...
"Asked my friend how his mom was doing at his moms funeral."
"Jesus Christ this is the worst one on this thread. What was his response?"
"He looked at me and then the casket and kind of smirked. I awkwardly started to try and explain and just said "I'm an idiot. You know I love you. Talk to you in a bit." He makes fun of me now and I can't stop laughing. It's a positive painful memory."
Own up to your mistakes. You'll garner more respect by acknowledging the awkward things you say, however, it's perfectly fine to laugh about it in the moment. That's probably the easiest way to escape the deep, deep shame.