People Whose Non-Disclosure Agreements Have Expired Finally Spill The Tea
Secrets - everyone has them, not everyone has secrets worth actually legally protecting.
Essentially, that's what an NDA is - an agreement not to disclose secrets. It's the grown-up no snitching pinkie swear. Except with an expiration date - and that's where things get interesting.
One Reddit user asked:
People who have signed an NDA that's now expired, what's the story?
So like, all I'm saying is that I worked as a security officer in a wealthy community and we all knew about the "authorized vehicles" that you were supposed to just wave and open the gate for, no questions asked, no need to see the driver or passengers, no checking any vehicles they bring along with them.
Just sayin'
Authorized
I worked security for a gated neighborhood of extremely wealthy people. Like, fortune 500 CEO, Senator(s) (sometimes both), etc.
We got to know which cars were "authorized" without being authorized. Because we weren't allowed to stop them, question them, or log them in in any way.
Because they were dealers selling to the elite.
The resident would call down letting us know they had a guest coming, we'd get a name. Guy would pull up, give us a fake name, we'd refuse, he'd make a call, the resident would answer and have a small fit that we aren't letting them in. They'd then give us their real name and we'd let them through.
Later that report would be edited and we'd get a directive that that car was considered authorized but no documentation was to be done.
Same cars, same guys, always the same residents, always a short visit. The entire crew was either former military or former cops, it didn't take a genius for us to figure out what was going on.
Same thing for the minivans that'd come in with one guy and several scantily clad women, leave 20 minutes later minus one woman, then a cab would come a few hours later for the woman that stayed.
The Secret Ingredient
I worked for a mall pretzel stand about 25 years ago and had to sign an NDA about the secret pretzel ingredient. It was baking soda.
- Thatsnotatrashcan
Had a friend who managed one over a decade ago, and he liked to mess with people and tell them that the secret ingredient was a chemical compound called "sodium bicarbonate" to gauge their reaction. So entirely truthful, but people who either knew that it was just baking soda or pressed for what that meant in layman's terms were fine, but I watched him freak out a few "scary chemical" paranoid people.
Sweet 1999 Technology
The Nokia 7110 will have a scroll-wheel.
There it is. So glad I could finally talk about it!
Also the release wasn't delayed because of "problems with the operating system" but rather because the entire development team caught a rather bad flu. Probably from me.
I'm so sorry :-(
Library Statues Bring World Peace
I had an "artist" (he told me he was known all over the world) have me sign an NDA when I was a young website designer. He wanted a site to promote his new sculpture idea. I recall it was a group of kids holding hands in a circle, it looked ok but not unlike any sculpture you'd see outside a public library. This guy was saying it would lead to world peace and such.
The requirements for the website were CRAZY detailed, like 40 pages of instruction. It had diagrams of how I should use the mouse to make blur effects and similar bullsh*ttery. I remember we were going over his 'vision' after I signed the NDA and vividly thinking "oh, this guy is just plain crazy." After 10 minutes I said I had an emergency and had to go and just never talked with him again.
In The Family
As Security Chief, I found that my boss, the Region Security manager, was stealing.
At that time, I thought to keep things "in the family'; imagine the scandal that, in the security branch of a nationwide mobile phone company, one of the people in charge of security was caught doing what he was supposed to prevent. Naive me.
So I reported directly to the CSO who, after getting a confession, ask the culprit to resign.
After that, he placed his 24yo niece (or something, family related) in the Region management, then, after 2 months fired me.
A year later, I found out that the first boss was indeed the CSO cousin who ordered his niece to fire me in retaliation.
Wiser me knows now to bring those things directly to HR.
The Phone Had A Security Guard
I did an advert for what was at the time HTCs biggest swing into ultra high end phone technology. I was allowed to hold the phone during filming and a guard put it in a suitcase at all other times. I was not to talk about the phone until it was on sale to the general public.
Pretty lame now, but I had tech friends who knew I did the ad grill me about stuff. I wasn't even allowed to say what color it was.
Contactors and Contracts
I was previously not allowed to tell you that the company I used to work for did white label work for BT, and that if you ever have a BT Openreach engineer come out to your property, they very rarely actually work for BT themselves (basically if they have a BT van) and are in fact one-job contractors with next to no knowledge of what they're actually repairing.
I was also not allowed to tell you that while it's standard practice to have sales people not take their contacts with them when they move companies, and that my business would enforce that by suing leavers who did, they also would not employ sales people who said they were not allowed (or not willing) to poach their previous clients and contacts from their previous company.
- ASLane0
I can definitely confirm this.
A few years back I was having major broadband problems. It eventually turned out to be a simple fix at the exchange (a wire had come loose) but prior to having the engineer out who actually did something about it, the two prior engineers were both from "Openreach" and when they arrived they had no idea my broadband was even offline until they walked in to my flat.
Fortnite
I got into a super small alpha test of a game in... 2013? It was a new survival game, one of those where you build during the day and try to survive the night, and let me tell you, the game was so, so meh. I played in a small server for about 4 hours and was so bored I just stopped playing for the rest of my access time.
There were all kinds of issues, not with the tech, but just glaring flaws in how the game worked. Some resources were way too abundant, some were really rare, there was practically no music, and the guns were dull. We also completely broke the enemy AI by building a jump pad to get up to a floating platform that required using your air control, so the zombies couldn't get up to us.
The game was Fortnite. The feedback on that alpha we played was so bad they basically took the whole game back into development until the version you know came out. What we were playing was a pretty early version of Save the World, except it was more like a typical Survival game. No BR back then, as you might expect.
So Much Nothing
I did some IT stuff for a state government (a couple actually, but only one had me sign an NDA).
Nothing terribly interesting other than there is so little for tourists to do in the state that they photoshopped people kayaking in the super polluted river that no one would dream kayaking in
Even worse, they listed attractions from the next state over as something tourists could do while visiting them.
Walmart Wheels
I was hit by a Walmart 18-wheeler. I was on the freeway minding my own business, almost done passing him, when he decided to merge into my lane. The rotation from his tires between my door and the frame welded the door closed, and completely destroyed the rear axle, which ripped off the frame (fwd. Engine still kicked over, and drove it up on the trailer at a decent angle) Took everything in my power to stabilize the car and keep control. The trucker just kept driving. I was fortunate a car behind me witnessed the whole thing, stopped, checked if I was okay, then drove up to find the dude accessing the damage to his truck at a gas station a little further up. They got the license plate for me so they could come back and give it to the officer for the report.
I know I could have sued for a pretty penny, but my only requests were;
a.) My medical bills be covered (only had whiplash, other than that, I was unharmed thankfully)
b.) I wanted to know, for a 100% fact he lost his license, and would never have the capability to do what he did to me, to someone else.
Received a call about a month later letting me know my hospital bills had been paid, my check for my car should have arrived, and that he was in fact fired and had his licensed revoked.
Pepto and Antibiotics
In the early 80s, I was a struggling theatre person trying to make ends meet. I knew a lot of production so most of my gigs (in the pre-gig economy days) was a day here and there doing corporate production, like conferences and meetings. They paid amazingly well.
I was hired to do sound for a top secret meeting at Smith-Kline. NDAs were routine so I didn't think twice. There was a group of video guys to manage images and such and a couple of us audio guys whose job it was to run the mics of the people in the meeting up and down, and we were all hidden behind the screen.
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss recent research they had which showed that stomach ulcers were caused by a bacteria called "campylobacter pylori." Smith-Kline's #1 drug at the time was called Tagamet, and it was an ulcer treatment that worked by inhibiting the production of stomach acid. It was going to go out of patent in the next few years.
The top secret meeting was to discuss the fact that they had discovered that the most effective treatment for stomach ulcers, with this new information on campylobacter pylori, was antibiotics supplemented with the use of bismic salts - which just happened to be the main ingredient in pepto bismol, the big over the counter stomach medication in the US at the time.
They had to decide whether to release the studies they had which showed their #1 drug was not as effective as an over the counter medication, or suppress their data and hope they got to the end of their patent on Tagamet to get as much money as possible before the truth came out.
I don't recall any decision anymore. I DO know the info did not come out for years, and I remember telling the story as soon as ten years had passed, and saying they voted to suppress the data, but I cannot swear to that.
The point is, they knew and years passed before it became common knowledge that stomach ulcers can be treated with pepto and antibiotics. It was my first introduction into a world where people's health is secondary to profits.
The bitter irony was I HAD stomach ulcers and took tagamet, so was a real victim of their decision. I started using pepto bismol right away in the 80s, but my doctor did not have the necessary information to prescribe an antibiotic for my stomach infection until 1996. So I had to treat my symptoms for a decade until the actual infection could be addressed. I suffered until the mid 90s when I was finally cured.
Best Of
Those "best of" professional lists? Whether it's national ("Best Doctors," "Best Lawyers," "Best Dentists") or local ("Best Local Florist," "Best Place to Grab a Beer") most of the time you can scam your way onto it. You can either buy your way on, or you can stuff the ballot box.
I worked on one that you COULDN'T game, and it pissed people off, because they were so accustomed to buying their way into first place. It was ridiculous. I got cussed out by business owners who couldn't buy their way on, and I got cussed out by business owners who didn't try and didn't make the list.
Later, I worked for a national list. It took me two weeks to figure out how the company was encouraging their clients to game the system. So disheartening.
That Marketing Plan, Tho
Some dude was going to revolutionize the world by building Google Calendar, only somehow better. His marketing plan was, tell his friends about it. And when I say he was going to build it, he wanted me to build it. But he wanted me to sign an NDA before he told me what he wanted me to build.
Yeh I politely declined, trying to stifle my laughter.
So the story isn't exciting or big like some of the others ITT. Just a funny example of some really unwarranted self importance.
Background Art
A friend signed an NDA when she did an art portrait of a family. She has a pretty unique style. She never broke the NDA, but then a year or so later, the celebrity has a random candid Instagram post in her home and the art was in the background.
So I guess it is now public and okay to share?
- Holanz
Chat Box Not-Bots
If you ever go to a car dealership's website, most have a chat box where you can talk to a real person. 99% of the people you are talking to do not work at the dealership, they work for a 3rd party company whose sole purpose is to get your name and preferably your phone number (though we took email addresses, too, if they didn't want to give us their phone number), so they can give it to the dealership's sales team and a salesman can contact you about buying a new car. Also, 90% of the stuff you guys ask about is easily found on the website, you just have to spend more than 10 seconds looking.
The company I worked for handled chat for about 60 or so car dealerships from all over the United States. Most of the dealerships were located in the Bible belt, but we did have several in South Carolina, and a few in Hawaii, too. Each computer was the same avatar. So we may have six computers, and number one is the avatar of 'Mary', then #2 was 'Peggy', etc. you get the idea.
No matter who sat at what computer each day the name of the avatar didn't change. Studies have shown that even when bluntly asking for information, people are more comfortable talking to women than men, and are more willing to give up information that they may not give up to a man. We also were never to tell the person on the other end that we didn't work for the dealership, but if they ever asked we weren't to lie but tell them we worked with the dealership.
I and everyone I worked with all had our own google docs or Microsoft word pages where we kept answers to commonly asked questions, such as what is the phone number, what are the hours of operation, and our signature "I'm having trouble finding that information right now, but let me get your last name and your phone number and I can have someone find out and contact you about it." Like I said before, the sole purpose of our chats was to get your contact information, so even if we knew what the mileage on a certain vehicle was, we were supposed to feign ignorance and have someone contact you about it so they could push a car sale. Sometimes when you're chatting to people like us, they can seemingly type out long paragraphs much faster than they should be able to. This doesn't necessarily mean they are a robot, but much more likely that someone else before you asked that exact question, and they already had a response ready to be copied and pasted over.
Some Chowder-Head
Short term NDA because we were working the roll out of Boeing's newest jet. It was an in-house showing for company big-wigs and assorted vice-presidents before the actual roll out for the public a couple days later. Massive signs everywhere "NO CAMERAS" "NO CELL PHONES" It was laid out to us verbally in our briefing "NO CAMERAS" "NO CELL PHONES" They couldn't have made it any clearer.
First thing one of our chowder-heads does once we get into the hanger is snap a selfie with the new jet. Security was on him like white on rice. Yanked the phone out of his hands, erased everything on it, and escorted him off the property. Permanently barred from all Boeing facilities. The rest of us just stood by and watched as he got perp walked out. He had to hang around outside the gate until we were done and then flag down a ride from someone.
The Company Expired First
Worked for an OEM back when Intel's new Penryn with the 1333Mhz FSB came out, and was having ground plane issues because other OEMs *cough*DELL*cough* cheeped out on motherboard components.
The company I worked for expired before the NDA did...
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One would think we're in a place in time where all conversations should be easy.
But that is not the case.
So much is still too "taboo" to be truthful about.
It is so frustrating.
There is so much to discuss.
Being shy is understandable, but it's something that we can all get over.
Redditor No_One_Special34 wanted to breakdown some barriers with a few simple conversations, so they asked:
"What is a taboo subject that should be talked about more?"
Speak Up
"Child/infant death. When my daughter died a bunch of people just... stopped talking to me altogether."
BaronMatfei
"I'm sorry to hear about your child."
"A 7-year-old was hit by a truck last week near my son's kg. I've never met the boy but I have had nightmares about it. I can't imagine what the parents are going thru right now. I can't imagine what you are going through."
ikalwewe
"This happened to my mom when my brother died. Nobody knew what to say so few people said anything, and then it was treated like it didn’t happen."
myspiritedconfusion
The Aging Process
"Nursing homes."
Limp_Distribution
"We are a disgustingly ageist society. No wonder people pay BILLIONS for plastic surgery, hair color, and fitness, etc to stay relevant and not be thought of as useless or 'other.' It’s so very hateful. I think our society fears old age and death. It’s a f**king pathos."
Playful-Reflection12
"THANK YOU! I'm a 20-year paramedic. One of the things that I really hoped COVID would shed a light on is the absolutely abhorrent treatment of our elderly and infirmed. The 'treatment' in far too many nursing homes is negligent to a criminal level."
MedicSBK
That's Easy...
"Household budgets and finance - how much your parents make, how much is the mortgage, car insurance, car payment, and so on."
davmoha
"That's easy. House, two cars, three kids, stay-at-home wife, pets, college tuition for everyone in the bank, a summer cottage home by the lake, and a hobby like golf should all do if you're a hardworking drug dealer nowadays."
aaar129
"Agreed! We have gone into detail about our finances with our kids. We have them pick jobs on LinkedIn and a home on Zillow and budget so expenses and have them watch as they realize they can't afford expensive stuff on a crap salary. It's been really great."
HoidWit
Look for the Signs...
"Familial abuse."
"Many people tend to assume that abusive people look creepy/scary and behave badly in general, but they don't seem to get that anyone can be abusive, regardless of appearance or demeanor. An abusive person can easily be charming, attractive, funny, witty, etc."
"Just because you think someone has a few positive qualities does not mean they're incapable of abuse."
"If someone's child 'seems' happy and well behaved, it does not mean that they are automatically OK or safe. There are many signs of abuse, and I wish that more people educated themselves on this issue. We can literally save lives by doing so."
ArtisanalMagi
The Girl Truth
"Girls need to know everything there is to know about menstruation before they experience it. At my school we were only given a quick 'every month you will bleed out your vagina, you can use pads or tampons to absorb it.' Nothing about any of the other mental or physical effects, nothing about how to deal with them, and nothing else reassuring."
IJustpeedyourpants
Why are girls not taught more sooner?
Like what year are we living in?
The End
"Death."
fallen-summer
"Number one for me, especially out-of-order deaths (young deaths). My husband died when I was 33 and he was 38. It's been almost 3 years and people still struggle with how to talk to me. We need to talk about death more as a society."
veganbettie
Only Legal One
"Alcoholism, especially in older generations."
Kaverim
"The biggest drug in the world, the most dangerous, only legal one. Alcohol has been disguised to make society believe it isn't even a drug. Now we're all hooked and can't go a week without a drink, funny because the cravings come back within a week."
Unlucky_Ducky23
"I quit drinking 18 months ago and it kinda sucks because if you want to go meet new ppl or go on a date it usually involves alcohol."
mspote
She's 75
"Comprehensive sex ed. My mother never had sex ed and was convinced that vaginal discharge wasn't normal and that your crotch didn't sweat."
Nay_nay267
"My mother had a condition that requires her to use a catheter. She was shocked to learn that she doesn't urinate from her vagina, and that the opening to her urethra is actually slightly above it. She's 75. I'm a dude, and I've known that since I was 14."
UniversalHammer71
"She was raised Catholic, and her mother taught her nothing. Not even what her period was. She was convinced she was dying."
Nay_nay267
Follow the Money
"Financial debt. In my line of work, I see people's bank accounts and credit reports every day and it is very rare that someone has zero debt. Excluding mortgages (which is a given) the vast majority have car finance, personal loans, and credit card balances. Mostly it's manageable, credit is mostly a convenience for which a person pays interest."
"But debt can also destroy a person. It can keep you up at night feeling like you're literally suffocating. It can lead to suicide. I know because I was close at one point. I don't know if I would have actually gone through with it but I had planned it to the point of measuring rope from the timbers in my attic to my neck and to ensure my feet wouldn't touch the ground."
"If you are in debt you are not alone, you're in the majority. If it's a struggle, notify the lenders/creditors; they're legally obligated to offer options to help you. It might reduce your credit score a bit but please don't ever reduce your life instead."
"Life is precious and money isn't. If you're struggling financially please speak to someone. There is no shame in it, pretty much everyone is struggling financially so someone will understand but please don't let a credit card balance be the reason your life ends."
kitjen
Holy Crap!
"Pooping and poop problems. Colon cancer is so common and relatively treatable, but like all cancers, it's so much better to catch it early - yet so many people are too embarrassed to talk about poop problems, and they don't bring it up with their doctor until it's too late."
"I have ulcerative colitis and make sure all my friends know I'm totally comfortable talking about poop if they ever have any questions about whether something happening to them is normal or concerning."
dorunrun
Speak more. Speak louder. We've all been quiet too long.
As much as we might try to take care of our things, there are going to be instances where we lose things that we love.
Ironically, those lost things might be some of the most meaningful things we have in our lives.
Redditor baba_yaga_777 asked:
"If someone offered you a box of everything you ever lost, what would you look for first?"
A Mother's Brooch
"The brooch I bought for my mom's birthday when I was five years old (60 years ago)."
"I took all my money out of my bank and walked to the local Hallmark store. The nice lady took my money (probably less than $2) and wrapped up the gift."
"When my mom opened her gift, we walked back to the store 'to thank the lady for wrapping it so nicely.' It was actually so my mom could offer to pay the rest of the cost of that beautiful brooch. The lady wouldn't accept any more money, though."
"And here we are, 60 years later, and I still remember the incredible kindness of that lady."
"I don't have the brooch or my mom, but I do have this memory."
- BakeCrochetGym
Childhood Photos
"When we left Yemen during the civil war in 1994, it was rushed and we lost a handbag that had all family photos from 15 to 20 years prior. It sucks not to have pictures of me when I was younger."
- gahgeer-is-back
The Perfect Fit
"My swim trunks for this summer. I just got them last year and they fit me perfectly, and now I can't find them for the life of me. It p**ses me off thinking about it."
- karmagod13000
All Progress Saved
"The 'Pokémon Crystal' game that I had leveled all of my favorite characters up to Level 80. The housecleaner swiped it and my parents wouldn’t believe me. F**k you, Julie."
- YourStolenCharizard
Lost Loved Ones
"My daughter. She was gone way too quick."
- WhatWouldTNGPicardDo
A Beloved Baby Blanket
"My childhood blankie. I have no idea what happened to it!"
- plasma_dan
"I somehow managed not to lose or destroy mine and gave it to my firstborn child. He still keeps it in his bed and turns seven soon. I think I’d ask for that too if it was lost."
- Lampyridae2A
Former Best Friends
"My best friend from my formative years."
- TrixonBanes
"Oof, same. She was like a sister to me. She lives on the other side of the country now and, even though we grew apart, I miss how I felt when I spent time with her."
- MaynardButterBean
Favorite Stuffies
"The stuffed platypus I had when I was in elementary. Every time my mom mentions finding stuff in my grandpa's house, I ask about it."
- JenniferMcKay
In Exchange for Toxic Relationships
"The self-esteem that I allowed others to destroy during a phase of illness."
- DeviantAvocado
Past Creations
"High school sketchbook full of emo edgy drawings."
- strangedigital
The Family Ring
"My mum's ring she'd been given by her Grandma that I pawned (my mum agreed at the time but always regretted it afterwards)."
"I got way, way less than its worth, since the guy took advantage of my age and desperation. The worst thing is, I can't even remember the design so can't ever have it replicated and can't ask my mum because she passed away earlier this year."
- -qqqwwweeerrrtttyyy-
Holiday Cheer
"Holiday cheer."
"Sure, I still love holidays but… as a kid, it was like, 'Holy mother of everliving f**k, Halloween is in THREE WEEKS? That is entirely too long. I will never be able to wait. Holy d**n.' And when it finally arrived, I'd have the night of my life."
"Now it’s like, 'Oh no. Halloween is in two days. Uh... Oh well...'"
- GregthePigeon
The Sea of Lost Picks
"As a guitarist, all of my f**king picks."
- ivaclue
Junk Drawers and Boxes
"The box I lost that had everything in it."
- Actuaryba
Quite the Conundrum
"The issue is that I can't recall what I've lost."
- ragnrokis
We've all lost things in our lives, some more important than others.
It's especially telling that at least most of us know exactly what we would seek first, before anything else that might possibly be in that box.
There are several things that are appealing to hikers.
Being out in nature and taking in some fresh air is a huge motivation for people to get out of the house.
Getting exercise is also a factor to maintain a healthy heart.
But there could be one unexpected element to a hike that can happen hypothetically, and it's sure to raise your heartbeat.
Specifically, seeing something shocking along the hiking trail, like, say, a naked person could make for an exciting–or disturbing–hiking outing. It certainly doesn't get any more au natural than that.
Curious to hear from strangers, Redditor spenf asked:
"What would be your reaction if you encountered a nude hiker?"
These Redditors assessed the situation and saw no harm.
Friendly Tip
"I have passed two nude hikers in my 35 years of hiking. One male, one female, years and thousands of miles apart. Both said 'hello'. I said 'hello.' One mentioned the trail was washed out ahead but a second trail has been cut. I thanked them for the heads-up. Some people like the wind and sun on their skin. Both had on hiking boots. To each their own."
– Zmirzlina
Sign Of Good Character
"I have. Three times! I'm an avid backpacker and you can usually find me in Yosemite, SeKi, Emigrant or Carson-Iceberg in California on any random summer weekend."
"My standard line: 'Afternoon, I didn't realize it was so cold out today!'"
"One of them didn't get the joke. The other two laughed their nude a**es off."
"Here's my reasoning. If you're naked and can laugh at a joke, you're probably not a threat."
– codefyre
Two Scenarios
"Depends. A hiker with hiking boots/shoes and a backpack, but otherwise nude, or a completely nude person on a hiking trail?"
"Scenario 1: I give a friendly wave and hike on."
"Scenario 2: I give a more tentative wave and hike on, maintaining a heightened awareness of my surroundings."
– Genshed
Casual Encounter
"I met one once. A middle aged man in ok shape. Had nice hiking boots, thick wool socks, fancy framed backpack, two walking poles, hat, sunglasses, and nothing else on."
"I said hi in a neutral voice, he replied hi in an equally neutral voice. We passed, I did not look back."
– SillyFlyGuy
Some hikers are suspect.
High Alert
"While backpacking out of Rocky Mountain National Park we encountered a dude wearing nothing but shoes and some very small shorts. He was off trail about 100' at the edge of a meadow, walking and swinging a machete. I...did not approach. He was probably a mile in from the trail head. I'm guessing drugs."
– DoctFaustus
Beware Of Black Magic
"Ha! There are a lot of superstitious rumors/stories circulating around scenario 2 in India. Apparently, people who practice black magic with the sole intent of harming someone are often seen walking naked in places you don't expect people, carrying weird items."
"Either you interrupt them by disturbing them (no clue what happens next) or you run in the opposite direction."
– longlegs25
You may want to take note.
"I live in the Bay Area and naked hikers are not uncommon."
"Good naked hiker: has appropriate shoes, a backpack or fanny pack, is hiking with intention and looks tanned and fit and like he does this regularly. Good naked hikers will give you room so you don't have to interact unless you really want to."
"Bad naked hiker: shoeless, visible sores, scrapes, or burns, moving erratically (i.e. really slow or in a zig-zag). Might be a drugged out person. Out-of-shape or pale are indications this is not normal for them and they may not have intended for this to happen."
"Exhibitionist: makes a point to make eye contact, smile at you, wave, try to involve you. Good naked hikers are usually on long, deep trails where they're less likely to encounter others, and they tend to give clothed hikers a wide breath out of a sense of respect and consent. Exhibitionists get chummy; it excites them to be seen naked."
– IAlbatross
"Also depends on the area. A deep woods area with long trails is ideal for naked hiking. Shorter and more accessible trails are less okay because there's a higher likelihood of encountering families with children."
"Also depends on if they're with friends or not. A group of naked hikers is less concerning than an individual."
"All this boils down to:"
"If you see a naked hiker, mind your own business. A good naked hiker isn't trying to bother you. A bad naked hiker is potentially dangerous. An exhibitionist wants attention so any attention paid to them will fuel them. Best thing to do is nod as you pass and carry on like you haven't even noticed."
"Edit: There are actually areas in the Bay Area where it's permitted to hike naked. Regionally, some places allow nudity. Also some places allow women to be topless so a topless female hiker might just be evening out her tan. It's best not to assume and to know the local laws before passing judgement on a person getting their nature on."
– IAlbatross
Guilty as charged.
The Name Is A Dead Giveaway
"No reaction at all, since I would be nude myself."
– NudistGeek
"Stare in disbelief. That's just very strange and coincidental for two nude hikers to run into each other."
"I guess make sure they have sunscreen also."
– miketdavis
To each their own, but if hiking in the nude is your thing, you do you.
And just a heads up: If you're walking around in the buff and happen to be wielding a machete, you're going to make people very jittery. So maybe drop the prop.
Also, wear plenty of sunscreen.
30 is the new 20.
At least, that's what a lot of people tell themselves after they pass that milestone birthday.
Even so, while age is merely a number, people still find certain things grow increasingly more challenging with each passing year.
Including, or even particularly, dating.
Those still on the hunt for love after turning 30 might grow increasingly insecure, worry that their moment has passed, or be unable to ignore the ticking of their biological clock reminding them that time might be running out to start a family.
Not to mention, playing a losing game over and over can become completely and utterly exhausting after a while.
"What is the hardest part of dating after 30?"
Not Everyone Wants A Package Deal
"Realizing that the number of single parents is larger than you’d expect."- dhabo1030
"Some people have kids or want them soon."
"And emotional baggage."- Psyblade0_0
"Kids, whether you have them or not, is something to talk and consider immediately before starting anything."- Crisb89
"For me, it was finding someone who didn't have kids, and didn't want them."
"At that point in my life, I was (and still am) 100% sure I don't want kids."
"Finding a long-term partner who wants the same was pretty tough."- Toiletpaperplane
Everyone's In A Hurry
"'Dating after 30 is like catching a city bus after midnight'."
"'There aren't as many, but they're faster'."- civex
How Long Have You Got?
"Online dating sucks and all my friends are married or dead or single fathers."
"So I am on my own for the most part."- somedude-83
"It's not all fun and games anymore."
"People feel late or behind."
"First dates often: are we compatible, do you want kids, are you OK with my kids, are you ready for a serious relationship, do you make enough money, do you own a home, politics?"
"Religion."
"I don't have time to mess with you if we aren't a match because I'm in my 30s and supposed to be married and having kids."
"The days of just light fun dating are less common."- ZLVe96
Emotional And/Or Excess Baggage
"Geez."
"You sometimes pay for what their ex did to them."- JJJAAABBB123
Rising Standards And Expectations
"You have your preferences narrowed down a LOT more than you did in your 20s, thus finding a compatible partner is more difficult."
"Especially if you dislike kids."- Clintman
"Many people want 'high value' partners while having no value."- Zetterburger40
Solo routines Can Be Hard To Shake...
"I've learned I prefer my own company."- PrinceEnternalStench
Alternative Methods...
"The summoning rituals you have to go through."- AdCareful5654
Wait Till Your 40s...
"Wait until they’re over 45."
"Most are divorced and have been alone for a while."
"It‘s a reset of dating and they’re open to try something new."
"That person who was out of your league is now squarely in your court."
"Go for it!"- macgiv
Good Luck Getting A Good Night's Sleep...
"CPAP Machines."- Reddit
As long as you are single, finding love is one of the many things you think you might never achieve with each passing year.
However, when you do finally find that one true love, no matter when or how old you are, you will realize in no time at all it was definitely worth the wait.