Let's be real... the villains are the best. They're usually the most dynamic and are so deep and emotionally entangled. They've been wronged in some colossal narrative and the only way to right that wrong (in their mind) is an eye for an eye or causing enough pain to heal their own. It's misguided and often overly dramatic and but damn if they aren't fun to watch. In films, television, literature even music... the villain is often our muse. And often we can empathize with their struggle.
Redditor u/murdo1tj wanted to hear form everyone who they believe had justifiable actions by inquiring.... What villain was actually somewhat justified in their actions?
Tom for the Win!
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Tom, from Tom and Jerry. I mean that's his job, there's a rodent in the house. bizzywhipped
Ever notice how normally Tom is just going about his business when that thieving little sod Jerry turns up and starts messing with him?
Tom IS the good guy. GrinningD
Go head Medusa Girl!
Medusa. She gets such a rep. First she's assaulted by a god. Since she was assaulted in Athena's temple, Athena gets mad at her and turns her into a monster. Super sucks so she goes to live in an isolated place where men keep coming to try to kill her. She kills them, which I think is super justified until Perseus comes along and chops off her head. allycakes
The Humans are the Villains....
The ship from Wall-E.
Humanity had already doomed its home planet and transformed into a population of lazy slobs that could barely walk. Sending them back to Earth in the feeble hope that a lone sprout could revitalize a garbage-strewn wasteland was a death sentence, and the ship knew it... true love be damned. drmcsinister
Magneto Knows....
Magneto. In every X-men movie he keeps saying "The humans are going to wipe us out!" and then in Logan you can see that the humans have pretty much wiped them out. Reddit
Yes! The center conflict between Charles and Erik is that Charles believes humans can learn to accept them, and Erik believes that in their fear they will destroy them. Erik is obviously shaped by his experiences in the holocaust, and he knows exactly what humanity is capable of.
In pretty much every storyline, Erik's predictions come true. nuggetblaster69
From eating Trix to turning them...
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The Trix rabbit, all he wanted was a bowl of cereal and those kids never offered him some. So he turned to a life of crime thieving cereal. Tragic. HeyDannie
Imagine how much the Trix rabbit hates Tony the Tiger, who eats delicious cereal for every meal with no interference from meddling kids. sordines
The Machines the Saviors....
The "machines" in the matrix.
We destroy our own planet to destroy the machines, only to have the machines kindly take us underground and put us into pods where we can live in virtual reality that's exactly like how we lived before we destroyed our planet. megiverly
Just trying to survive!
Galactus.
Guy doesn't even want to conquer or destroy planets cuz he's "evil," literally devours planets just because it's how he stays alive. thepotatoprime
Yeah he's not a villain, he's just a force of nature. Not good, not bad. jjacobsnd5
Doing it for Justice....
General Francis Hummel
- Was completely bluffing
- Just wanted recognition and compensation for fallen heroes. walkingcarpet23
Poor judge of character when it came to picking his officers. RockerElvis
We all got bills to pay!
The landlord in "Rent."
He just wanted them to pay their rent. LAST YEAR'S RENT. He was very forgiving to let it go on that long! Like, it's all well and good that they're bohemians and pursuing acting and music and stuff, but maybe get a job on the side? bsweddingthrowaway
Not just a Monster.....
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Frankenstein's Monster, dude was just trying to make the best of his situation and kept getting shat on and never asked for any of it. Frankenstein was just a dweeby little prick who stumbled on something greater than his own understanding. XtacleRonnie
Be Invincible!
Ozymandias. Also, Robot from Invincible. xenulives
He saved the world from nuclear war, but he was a total butt about it. zzzaacchh
"Primed" & Ready....
Choose a Tales series villain. They tend to do this with their baddies.
Schwartz from Legendia wants to end human suffering... by destroying time itself.
Grand Maestro Mohs (pro. "mows") from Abyss wants to keep to what's known as the Score, a prophecy that promises prosperity for the planet... after a colossal war between the two largest countries that will kill a huge portion of the population.
Mithos from Symphonia wants to stop racism against half-elves... by genocide of humans and elves.
Bakur from Xillia 2 wants to help save the world by easing the burden of rebirth for the spirits... but that requires destroying parallel worlds. Plus it's suggested by some characters that the protagonists may not be from the "prime" dimension. Aniki1990
Gotham's Freakiest....
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Ra's al ghul
Gotham never got better to my knowledge for all of Batman's antics over the years. It just kept locking away violent psycho criminals who would later escape and the cycle would perpetuate if not get worse. More villains kept creeping out of the woodwork as Batman went along too - some created by his own actions/indirect actions. Gotham was just a breeding ground for violence and psychosis it seems. In "The Dark Knight" the Joker alludes to this stating that Batman himself is partly responsible for "freaks" like him coming into being. Showerthawts
Be Doomed!
Dr Doom has beaten Thanos.
Dr Doom has wielded the infinity gauntlet.
Dr Doom cured cancer and ended poverty.
Dr Doom is doom. ukima9
You're not a mean one Mr. Grinch!
One of my favorite tweets I've seen was a guy who said that the Grinch was justified. Something along the lines of, "the Grinch didn't hate Christmas. He hated people, which is fair." Lol mermaid-in-disguise
They weren't materialistic though. The Grinch was and thought they were like him. When he stole Christmas they still enjoyed it anyway. G_Morgan
Don't want to Miss a Thing....
The asteroid in Armageddon. It just goes where Newton tells it to. Rhodie114
People don't think the universe be like it is, but it do. Red_Chinchilla_1
Not the movie version...
Mister freeze from the batman franchise. Man just wanted treatment for his wife, not to harm. Watashiwarsh
Let the Skyfall...
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Raoul Silva in Skyfall. Tortured for days even weeks, his cyanide capsule failed severely disfiguring him and from his point of view he was completely abandoned by his agency. But I may just be biased because I think Javier Bardem played him brilliantly. Mammoth_Entertainer
Yo-Ho-Ho!!
Cutler Beckett from Pirates of the Caribbean. Since when is wanting to wipe out pirates a bad thing? Mad_Squid
Cutler Beckett was really just a different side of the coin. He wanted money and power in the same way the pirates wanted money and power. Cutler got his from the existing power structure and the pirates got theirs from going around it. Flutterwander
Lex is the Best!
Lex Luthor!
Everyone seems to be alright with a power existing that could, on a whim, destroy the planet or take over. Lex Luthor is trying to protect to human race from a potential threat. He has some more selfish aspirations but at his core he is doing what is best for humanity. If he could stop being so damn evil and killing people for no reason, that might make him a little more of a complex character.
S/O to Injustice comic series/video games for giving us a good story where superheroes go off the rails and it's up to mostly human heroes like Luthor and Batman to take them down. MooneySuzuki36
Redditor Beadiest_Cape wanted to hear the best cuss free insults out there and asked:
“What's the best insult you've heard without swearing?"
Professor burn…
“After getting a compliment on his assignment, A buddy of mine leaned back in his chair and told our college professor, ‘I'm not as dumb as I look.’ To which he leaned forward on his podium and said, ‘You couldnt be.’” dusty_boots
“…and may God have mercy on your soul.”
“One of the best is from Billy Madison, ‘What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.’” maswriter
You should apologize…
“You’re not the dumbest person in the world, but you'd better hope they don’t die.” WhatThatBoiDoin
“Whenever this question is posted, my favorite is usually along the lines of: ‘There's a tree somewhere in the Amazon jungle with sole purpose of producing oxygen you breathe. You should go find that tree and apologize." all_worth
How low can they go?
“The bar was on the ground and you grabbed a shovel” BlckAlchmst
“That reminds me of one comment i read saying: ‘the bar was so low it was practically a tripping hazard in hell, yet here you are dancing limbo with the devil’.” give_it_a_vodkashot
Series 2 Limbo GIF by BBC ThreeGiphy"Having been born an infant, and realizing he quite liked it, he decided to stay one forever." overt-wan-kenobert
“From Casablanca: ‘You probably think pretty poorly of me don't you?’”
"’I would if I gave you any thought’" koiven
These teachers got clap backs for days…
“I had a teacher tell some kid ‘Nothing you have to say is of any consequence...to anyone.’ He was an odd teacher who kinda talked like that, but it was his version of savage. The room lost its sh*t in unison.” glib_battling
“I had a guy sit behind me in English class let out of fart that reverberated off the wooden seat. The whole class heard it. The teacher said ‘that's the most intelligent thing you've said all year’. Priceless” melbers22
Bob Dylan…
“Bob Dylan: One day, I wish you'd be in my shoes, so you could know... what a drag it is to see you.” WhatDaufuskie
“I was at a karaoke 50th the other night and this one caught my eye. Thankfully I wasn't drunk enough to sing it. But I love this song for its sick burn. Poor old Edie. Bob really gave it to her that time.” crankenfranken
Down the Monty Python rabbit hole…
“Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt... of elderberries!” UpTwoDownOne
“Elderberries were the cheap replacement for grapes in making wine. That is basically ‘your father is a drunk and can't afford the good stuff’.” ukezi
“And hamsters have sex all the time with no regard for monogamy.” draconum_ggg
“So, ‘Your mother is being cheated on but is also a w*ore and you father is a drunk who is also broke’.” EmpanadaDeMayonesa2
Firefly insults…
“‘My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a...middle.’ --Mal Reynolds”
"’It's not that I hate you, exactly; it's just that any admiration I have for you is well under control.’” FlourChild1026
Shakespeare master of insults…
“Straight from Shakespeare ‘I wish we could become better strangers’.” Dundeklil
“Also from Shakespeare: (Fallstaff, after Bardolf calls him fat) ‘Do thou amend thy face, and I'll amend my life.’” driving_andflying
Excuse us while we go grab the burn cream.
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Sure, it's depressing, but you know what? Aging happens to all of us, and no one is getting out of here alive.
"What gets worse with age?"
Physical consequences of aging is one of the cruelest things in life.
What The Body Does With Food
"Digestive system."
"Every meal is followed by a poop."
Fighting Gravity
"Bending over to pick a quarter off the ground. Hurts your back, gut and your fingers don't work. That's why there is change all over my floor. ;)"
After A Wild Night
"Hangovers for sure."
"At 18 I could go heavily drink and feel damn near 100% the next day. Now I get horrid mental and physical effects. Probably should quit drinking all together."
When our senses gradually start to fail us, it's yet another reminder of our brief mortality.
Look, See
"eyesight."
"Make sure you get your eye dilated every year and check for cataracts."
See, Hear
"My hearing is on the decline. I don't think it'll go completely, but I did get hearing aids last year."
Deaf GIF by memecandyGiphyThe degeneration of certain abilities as we get older is too much to bear.
Staying Above Water
"My ability to cope. I'm just burnt out all the time."
"I feel the same. Aside from my family and friends, I have no care for anyone or anything anymore. Nothing phases me but that's not a good thing IMO. I feel very apathetic towards everything, I'm tired all the time and just want to lay down."
Counting Sheep
"The ability to sleep through the night."
– dabuku1
"Used to be a world champion sleeper and now 5-6 straight hours is huge. Pretty much wide awake every night at 3am."
Putting Up With People
"Humanity.... The older I get the less I want to deal with people."
Maintaining Friendships
"Friendship - making new friends after your 20s becomes a big struggle, and the newer friendships just aren't the same. You can literally run out of 'lifelong friends' due to death, disease, people growing apart, etc."
– cowanon7
I found as I'm getting older my patience and tolerance for certain things have gotten worse.
Waiting in line at the grocery store while someone fumbles with their payment option, or getting antsy when the food I ordered at the restaurant is taking way too long are things that never bothered me ten years ago.
I"m not curmudgeonly by any means, at least not yet. Besides, I'm not that old.
But to all the cranky elders I grew up with who complained about poor service or lack of efficiency, I get it now, and I hear you.