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People Break Down How They've Turned Their Whole Life Around

People Break Down How They've Turned Their Whole Life Around
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Everyone loves a good comeback story––perhaps that's why seeing people having a rough go at life troubles us so much. We keep thinking of who they could be if only things turned around.

After Redditor ipeeontoiletseats (what a name) asked the online community, "How did you turn it around?" people shared their stories... and brought a smile to our faces.


"A friend called on my way..."

I got injured in a car accident (rear ended). Lost my business and my wife of 19 years eventually left for another man, leaving behind a 17 year old daughter and 2 year old son.

No job, No car, No money. 2 kids and $2k a month in rent coming due.

Two days after she left I took my real estate license test. I PASSED! I had planned to surprise her but had hid that I was studying in case I failed. Either way it wasn't enough and I ended up taking a job at Amazon. I worked a graveyard shift while my daughter stayed home with my son. I also did open houses on the weekend in hopes someone would walk in unrepresented...

It still wasn't enough so I signed up to drive Uber and lift. I had been able to pick up a decent vehicle from a family member for cheap and I was in business. I switched my graveyard shift to a day shift and started driving through the nights. The money was alright but I realized I could make a little more if I switched from Amazon to another large company in the area, so I did. I did that for about a year

Things were ok, I was making good money and then Coldwell Banker fired me. I didn't think Coldwell fired anyone as long as they were paying their dues. I had never sold a house so all it meant was I needed to switch to another broker. Turns out that was a blessing in disguise.

A friend called on my way to sign with Keller Williams and convinced me to sign with a temp agency. I was skeptical but what did I have to lose? The first and second day I was placed with Toll Brothers. It was alright and I could see myself doing that. On the third day I was sent to a local developer and my world was changed.

The broker of record and the local developer took me under their wing. After a few months they hired me away from my temp broker, gave me a salary and commissions and provided me with an opportunity to change my kids' lives forever. I was able to go from working 4 jobs to just one and I have learned more about myself than I could have ever imagined possible.

It's been three and a half long years but I wouldn't change a thing if I could.

NoDozDad

"After four months..."

When I was a teenager I was homeless. A lot of places wouldn't hire me because I had no experience or interview clothes. I went to the board of education and begged the HR lady to give me a chance at any job. I told her I'd scrub the school with a toothbrush if they paid me. She took pity.

They made me a general sub for clerical. I took a call for one of the "bad neighborhood" schools that some others turned down. Walked across town to get there every day do I had to start walking at 4:30 am to be on time. I wore dress clothes from a church mission that were way too big but I did my best.

After four months they gave me a long-term position. Then a permanent one with benefits. I saved up enough for an apartment (finding a landlord okay with renting to an 18 year old homeless girl was hard) and started college.

I haven't been homeless a day since in the last 15 years. I even have a house now.

kalooboo

"I'm almost at the point..."

Reading more and using social media less. I'm almost at the point where I can just delete reddit. Almost.

Hatewrecked

"I decided to stop comparing myself..."

I decided to stop comparing myself to my brother and try to focus on the improvable.

TheBearBearian

"Paid off my debts..."

Paid off my debts slowly but surely and worked my @ss off to buy a house. Took years but it was worth it.

TheRealReapz

Moving out of my parents house.

I was living with my parents (which is very common thing in India) until end of my med school. I've been in my comfort zone all my life and had everything I need. That led to depression and I wanted to live by myself and to get out of my bubble. Now I can't say I figured it all but I definitely feel better.

yasgwanthjoey

"I heavily reduced..."

I heavily reduced sugar when I was 21 and started resistance training . 2 years later and I am feeling the best I have ever felt, have so much energy and self confidence because I actually like the way I look now. Clothes fit so much better as well.

eleuthero_maniac

"Realizing..."

Realizing I dont have to act like someone Im not just to be liked by everyone. Changed my life choices and it made me a much happier man. I wish Ive done it sooner and not on my late 20s. So much wasted time.

ktool69

"It helped me break out of OCD..."

Went to the gym.

It helped me break out of OCD induced psychosis and brought me back to reality and have been going everyday since - Had to replace it with exercising in the park during the peak of COVID though.

Beowulf_9981

"I used to hate myself."

I used to hate myself. I had a lot of anxiety throughout middle school and high school. I didn't know how to describe how I was feeling and it cost me my relationships with friends and a girl I dated for a short time. It nearly destroyed my relationship with my parents and my family because I would always say I was fine when I and they knew I wasn't, some part of me wished I never existed.

When I graduated high school in 2017 and I didn't talk to most of the friends I had left and didn't really know what to do. And In mid 2018 I was talking to a friend who was visiting from out of state who said that he had dealt with the same thing and said that if I tried to thinking positively and try to stay relaxed when I'm starting to feel anxious, it might help. And over the last two years I've been doing that.

It wasn't easy at first, but it's getting easier. I've started talking to friends and my relationship with my family is getting better, I even have a great relationship with my extended family too. I'm still working on expressing how I feel and socializing.

If anyone reading this takes anything away from this post, I hope it's that you know that you'll find you way eventually, don't rush, you'll get it, I know I am.

Agent-Orange666

"Now I'm happy..."

Delaware Valley Job Corps. And moving away from every bad element of my life. Now I'm happy, healthy and looking forward to getting married in a few years. This all happened over the course of 10+ years.

PoisonedIvysaur

"Paired wih an antipsychotic..."

Magic mushrooms every 10 days has radically transformed my life in every way. Paired with an antipsychotic, I've been able to pretty thoroughly undo the phenomena that results from my bipolar disorder and become a lot less miserable.

OutsideResident1

"I got married..."

I got married and became more responsible, actually showed up to work and paid my bills. Unfortunately, we divorced a few years ago. But we get along great and have two wonderful children.

randomguyinthebay

"This was the best thing to ever happen to me..."

I experienced a horrible falling out with the person I lived with so I moved out. This was the best thing to ever happen to me because I realized I surrounded myself with people that didnt think highly of me and that colored how I thought of myself and what I was capable of. It also taught me a lesson in letting go when a situation is no longer worth pursuing.

A month after moving out, I was offered a job in another state making 25% more. I took it and traveled to 11 different states. Had a lot of memorable experiences that I would not have had otherwise: went to disney world during halloween, kayaked in bioluminescent waters, hiked grandfather mountain, sailed, etc.

I also started dating people that thought the world of me. I didnt know what that felt like until I left my old life behind. Even breaking up and moving on in a mature manner was another new experience for me.

I really feel like I came a long way. I am loved, I am financially secure and I surround myself with good people that I want to emulate in my day to day life. Don't let anyone else tell you what your worth is. Their limited experiences cannot fathom anything great that happens to you.

KittyFalse

"I met a guy in 2017..."

I met a guy in 2017 and we decided to move to a small town in Arizona after just 3 months of knowing each other. I realized 6 months after that he was an abusive control freak and I was in a bad spot. I was in a pretty bad situation. I had been lower that before ( abusive childhood, attempts to kill myself, self harm), but this time I was in a strange place with no family close. I felt trapped. Then, kinda suddenly, I started to realize how much control I had over the situation. I made a lot of money as a waitress and was the breadwinner. So I started saving my money and not mentioning anything to my SO. The final straw for me was his threats to my life. He pointed a knife at me and himself, at one point throwing the knife at me.

So I took the car one day to the laundromat claiming to wash some stuff. I called my father ( he lives 4 hours away) and told him everything. I was so afraid for my life as I drove to the police station ( in my SO's car that we shared). I was in that police station for almost 8 hours. I had no where else to go. I sat there and waited for my dad to get the chance to drive up and help me decide what to do.

My life changed so drastically in the matter of days. With the money I had saved and my dad by my side, i was able to get the majority of my stuff for my old house, including many houseplants and my cat, and start my new life.

I bought a house on my own, a pretty new car, and still be able feed myself and my cat. I had so many people who were willing to help me with some of the little things and I made some amazing friendships through it all.

Now almost a whole year later, I feel like a different person. I am in a healthy relationship for probably the first time ever and I am completely independent. I also have my dream job and the perfect schedule for me. I believe the true way I turned my life around was realizing I couldn't control everything in life, but one thing I could control was who I gave my time to and how I spend my time. I also decided to be confident in myself and honest to others about what I want. I started to go after what I had only dreamed about before. I feel so lucky and thankful for everything I have and the people that helped me. I feel like me for the first time ever. I will never again apologize for being who I wanna be.

KuteKitty0098

"It forced me..."

I moved away from my hometown to get away from friends and family. It forced me to become independent and focus on a career and myself.

GGDadLife

I made a mess of my life in my 20s. It started with not knowing how to handle the stress I was under in college, in combination with social crap and years of undiagnosed anxiety and depression coming to a head. I got through college via a series of band aids and short term fixes, and after college wound up in an abusive relationship with a compulsive liar with control issues and an obsession with his public image. I allowed him to put me in debt so deep that I had to file for bankruptcy. And then I continued to support him for over a year.

This is all kept vague because I've got a million stories about how I messed up the first half of my life and alienated all of my friends. Then, I got a very loud wake up call after I broke up with the abusive boyfriend, and this is how I turned it around.

I changed my environment. I moved to be away from the toxic ex and the people who weren't there for me when I was neck deep in trouble, and to be closer to my sister.

I went to a doctor and got the medication I needed to keep my mood stable. This had additional ups and downs, but in the end I have the meds I need to have a stable mood.

Therapy.

I made a decision that I needed to be happy with myself before I could be happy with another person, and that I deserved to be picky about who I dated. Because of that decision I passed on a guy who turned out to only be nice on the surface, and wound up with the wonderful person I'm with now - and we'll have been together ten years in December.

I figured out what I need to be satisfied in life and set my goals around that.

And I learned to be better with my money, and to put myself and my own well being first.

prismatchipoo

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Old Wives' Tales People Still Believe For Some Reason

"Reddit user the_spring_goddess asked: 'What is an old wives tale that people still believe?'"

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The old wives' tales.

They are the stories of legend.

I think we all need a big DEEP Google dive though.

Where did they originate?

WHO ARE THE OLD WIVES!

You don't hear about them as much anymore.

It's like science and logic are suddenly a thing.

But they sure are a good way to keep your kids and their behavior in line.

Redditor the_spring_goddess wanted to discuss the tall tales we've all been fed through life, so they asked:

"What is an old wives tale that people still believe?"

"Wait an hour to swim after eating."

What a crock!

So many summer hours wasted.

I want revenge for that one.

Say Nothing

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"An undercover cop has to tell you he's a cop if you ask him."

LonelyMail5115

"Pretty much most advice when it comes to cops are old wives tales. I’m not even a cop but most of the advice you hear is pretty off."

I_AM_AN_A**HOLE_AMA

Say Something

"That you have to wait 24 hours to report someone missing."

Severe_Airport1426

"I really think this one is important and should be the top regardless. As it’s a piece of advice that needs to be relearned and the only way to do that is through awareness."

crappycurtains

"This used to be true. I think they changed it after some guy named Brandon went missing back in the '80s or '70s. You used to have to wait 24 hours if the missing person was an adult because they had 'a right to be missing' and then everyone realized that was stupid and stopped doing it."

AlbinoShavedGorilla

Body Temps

"That drinking ice cold water after eating oily foods will solidify the oil and permanently remain in your body. I informed my coworker that if your body temperature ever reached that point, you’d have bigger problems than weight gain."

chriseo22

"Oh, I have a cousin who 100% believed this. One of those guys who believed every early 2000s internet rumor and old wives tale. One night I chugged a big glass of ice water after dinner and he started freaking out and saying my guts were gonna harden."

"I sarcastically told him to drive me to the hospital if that happened. Obviously, nothing happened and the next morning I said something like 'Thanks for being on standby in case my guts filled with hardened oil.' He just walked off muttering under his breath."

apocalypticradish

Arms Down

"When I was pregnant, I was told by young and old alike that I should NOT raise my arms above my head or exert myself in such a manner because it could cause cord strangulation to my unborn sons and daughters."

Fatmouse84

10 Years Actually

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"Chewing gum stays in your stomach for 7 years."

REDDIT

"I remember accidentally swallowing a piece of gum when I was a kid in like 1995 and just accepting my fate like welp, gonna have this in my stomach til high school I guess."

Gecko-911

I was so afraid to sallow my gum when I was young.

This tale is haunting.

High/Low

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"You can tell the sex of the baby by how you carry."

LeastFormal9366

"Pregnancy certainly wins awards for the most old wives tales. So much absolute BS was repeated to us by everyone we talked to."

IllIIIlIllIlIIlIllI

The Cursed

"If you’re a woman and you wear opal jewelry but opal is not your birthstone (October), you’ll never be able to have children, or will be widowed, or just generally have bad luck or something. You can counteract this by having a diamond in the same piece of jewelry as the opal, though."

"I have a nice opal ring that my parents gave me years ago, and I’ve had other women give me this 'advice' unprompted more than once when I’ve worn it. I have absolutely no idea where it started, but I’m pretty sure this little chunk of silicate rock has no concept of what month I was born in, let alone of how my reproductive organs work."

SmoreOfBabylon

Stay In

"Going outside with wet hair will make you get pneumonia. Or an earache. Or maybe arthritis. Depends on which old wife you listen to."

"Jokes on them - I haven't blow-dried my hair in decades and usually leave the house with wet hair in the morning. On winter mornings, the tips of my hair get frozen. No ear infections or pneumonia or arthritis yet."

worldbound0514

Dreams and Facts

"You never make anyone up in your dreams you've seen everyone in your dreams somewhere else before and never make anyone up entirely."

"How would you possibly prove that to be true? My partner adamantly believes this and tells me this 'fact' whenever I have a dream about someone I've never met before."

mattshonestreddit

"My late wife used to tell me that before she met me she would have dreams of standing at an alter on her wedding day but could never see the guy's face, no matter how hard she tried. After meeting me the face was filled in with mine. Don't know if it's true but one of those things I like thinking of every now and then when I miss her."

Darthdemented

Cracked

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"Some people still believe cracking knuckles causes arthritis."

Choice-Grapefruit-44

"There's a doctor (Donald Unger) that cracked his knuckles a couple of times a day for 60 years, but only on one hand, just to prove it. Both hands remained exactly the same."

MacyTmcterry

I love my knuckles.

Do you have any tall tales to add to the list? Let us know in the comments below.

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A lot of workers daydream about some day winning the lottery and being able to say goodbye to their job.

Far too many workers are unhappy with their job duties, workplace dynamics or company culture.

But with a taste for luxuries like housing and food, they keep plugging away, year after year.

However not everyone feels that way about their job.

So what are these compelling careers?

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There's something comforting about living in a small town.

It's characterized by close communities where neighbors know each other by name and there is an abundance of kindness extended to others.

Gift-giving is a commonality, as is the sharing of recipes, and people going out of their way to help each other in a time of need.

The pace of living in small towns is also a striking contradiction to city life, where crowds of people go about their busy lives without much interaction.

Curious to hear more examples of what small town living is like, Redditor official_biz asked:

"What's the most 'small town' thing you've witnessed?"

These are positive examples of a tight-knit community.

Live Updates

"We have a village Facebook page. Every time the ice cream man drives into the village, the entire page goes ballistic. People send live updates of where the van is and which direction he's heading. The ice cream man has started accepting DMs so he knows which streets to go down."

– PyrrhuraMolinae

Brush With The Law

"I’m from a town of less than 2,000 people. When I worked at the grocery store there people would often drop off stuff for my family members because they didn’t want to drive all the way down to our house. I no longer live there but recently got a call from my daughter. She had been stopped for speeding and handed over her license and insurance which happens to be in my mother’s name. The officer goes 'Hey, you’re Donnie’s granddaughter! I ain’t gonna write you a ticket but I’m telling Donnie when I see him tomorrow cause we’re going fishing.' She replied 'I think I’d rather have the ticket.'”

- Reddit

Roadside Catchup

"The traffic on the 'main street' of my town is so sparse, two drivers going opposite directions can stop and talk to each other for a few minutes without causing any problem."

– anon

When things go wrong, people take notice without incident.

Bank Robbery

"A guy robbed a bank and everyone knew immediately who he was and the teller got mad at him."

– AlexRyang

"A local bank was robbed and one of the tellers told the police to bring her a yearbook from about ten years earlier and she would be able to point the robber out. He had been in the grade before hers in school."

– Strict_Condition_632

Wise Woman

"When I worked at the bank in town there was an older lady that had worked there through 5 mergers."

"She knew everyone, there was a young guy yelling at me one day. She walked out of the back and he immediately quieted. She went off about telling his grandmother that he was treating young women like sh*t. She also said that if he didn’t straighten up not one girl in town would ever marry him she would make sure of it."

– ilurvekittens

Intoxicated Local

"Town drunk was paralyzed and used a motorized wheelchair to get around. I was driving home one Saturday night and said town drunk was passed out in his wheelchair doing circles almost directly in the town square. Had to call his brother who came and picked him up on a rollback truck. Strapped him down and drove off into the cold dark night."

– DoodooExplosion

Grazing Over To The Bar

"In my former small town, there was an older guy who'd lost his license after getting a few DUIs. Every day, he would ride his John Deere lawnmower to the corner bar around 3PM and sit around watching TV and sipping his beer well into the night. Then he'd head the couple miles back home on his mower. He even had a little canvass shell he put on when it rained or got too cold."

– brown_pleated_slacks

It's not surprising how small town people behave differently than those who are from metropolitan areas.

Welcoming Committee

"I lived in a small town. When I moved there, people would ask, 'Whose house did you buy?'"

–MoonieNine

"Move to a small town. 30 years later, you are still the new guy."

– impiousdrifter

"I lived in a small town for most of my childhood but I wasn't "from there" because my grandparents weren't from there."

– raisinghellwithtrees

"Worked with an older guy, relative of the owner of the business, he was 73. I asked him if he was a local, he said 'no his parents moved here when he was two.'"

– realneil

A Busy Day

"Lived in a town of about 5,000: A woman walked into the DMV on a Friday, saw that there were 3 people ahead of her and left to come back another time when they weren't so busy."

– KenmoreToast

Who Let The Dogs Out?

"My dogs got out while i was working. the police called my niece's elementary school (she was a 5th grader) to get her to round them up and take them back home."

– mediocrelpn

"There was a small kennel behind the police station for runaways. They called us saying they had our dog, and moments later our dog showed up home. He broke out of jail."

– Worried_Place_917

While life in a small town sounds appealing, I don't know if I can ever live in one.

I'm so used to life in big cities, I think it would be quite unnerving to adjust in a neighborhood where everyone literally knows your business.

I would be paranoid.

And I'm sure the same could be said of life in the big city.

Would you consider making the switch to life in a different setting?

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Every now and then, a friend of ours might say something, or we might overhear a complete stranger say something that makes us stop in our tracks.

More often than not, what we can't believe we just heard is something so ridiculous, we can't help but put the person who said it in their place.

Other times, however, what we just heard might have stunned us silent because of how shockingly clever it was.

Resulting in our not wanting to scold or yell at someone, but rather give them a handshake.

Redditor SubmergingOriginal was curious to hear the sharpest and wittiest things they've ever heard, from friends and strangers alike, leading them to ask:

"Enough with the dumbest; what is the wittiest thing you've ever heard someone say?"

Don't Give Me So Much Credit...

'I was on a team at work that was on a project working insane overtime."

"One night after an 80-90 hour week, we were all sitting around the table trying to finish up so we could go home."

"Around 11, my buddy's wife called, dubious about the hours he'd been keeping."

"We heard her through the line - 'are you cheating on me?'"

"Exasperated, he looked at our boss, then replied 'honey, if I was cheating on you, I would have been home by now'."- lionbatcher

Eternal Optimism...

"Asked a blind guy if he'd been blind his whole life."

"He said 'Not yet'."- Feeling_Mode_6465

Free time Isn't The Only Thing He Has On His Hands...

"My brother got a vasectomy and when the doctor was releasing him and giving him instructions (with the nurse listening in), one of the orders was to 'come back and have a follow-up appointment after you’ve ejaculated 30 times'.”

"Without missing a beat my brother asked 'what time do you open tomorrow?'”

"The nurse couldn’t keep it together after hearing that."- UtahUtopia

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Double Whammy!

"My pal uses the phrase 'he doesn’t look strong enough to carry information' and it cracks me up every time."

"Calling someone stupid and weak in one fell swoop."- JennyW93

Can't Hide Your DNA...

'Whenever I jokingly insult my mum, she says 'that must be where you get it from'."

"She cracked the code."

"I can never offend her without offending myself."- JennyW93

Self-Sufficient!

"My brother was a line cook at a New Orleans restaurant."

"My mom was in town, staying at a fancy hotel, and he stopped by after work, still wearing his kitchen whites."

"He was reading a newspaper in the lobby waiting for her to come down when the shocked lobby manager sputtered at him, 'MAY I HELP YOU!?!?'

"He answered, 'thanks, but I know how to read',” and went back to his paper."- jobrody

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A Miracle!

"My brother-in-law’s comment."

"The entire family went out for my mother’s 80th birthday and after the meal we all went to a local park, largely occupied by the elderly, to rest."

"My mother needed crutches at this point, and they were resting against her bench."

"My 10-year-old niece, who looked like every starving waif image from Dickens, grabbed the crutches and started hobbling round the park."

"All the OAPs were following her progress with looks of pity until my brother ran up behind her, and kicked away the crutches."

"There was an audible gasp from round the park and then my niece picked the crutches back up and started chasing my brother, clearly intending to hit him."

"In the confused silence my brother-in-law’s voice rang out 'Praise be! She can walk again!'"

"We still think this was the highlight of the birthday celebrations."- DdraigGwyn

Still Legal, Whichever Way You Cut It...

"I picked up my pleasantly tipsy boyfriend from a nightclub."

"We were stopped by the Police for a random breath test."

"They asked me my age, and I said, 33."

"My bf blurted out '33? You told me you were 22'."

"Police just laughed and let me go."- Aggravating-Corgi379

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A Bit Too On The Nose?

"Business law class in college years ago, talking about the issues that black Americans had before the Civil Rights."

"Amendment, trying to travel through the south with the discrimination so rampant, trying to find restaurants to serve them and decent lodgings."

"My instructor was posing a hypothetical: 'So you pull up out front of this place, you're exhausted from driving for hours, and you see the sign out front says 'Ku Klux Klan Motel'."

"'What would you expect to find there?'"

"Without missing a beat, from the back of the room came this gem: "'Extra sheets in every room?'"- NedsAtomicDB

Not Yet, Anyway...

"I was working with my friend and his dad."

"My friend (26) heard an ice cream truck near where we were working."

"He asked his dad if he could have a couple dollars."

"His dad asked, 'what for?'"

"My friend told his dad that there was an ice cream truck in the neighborhood, and that they were playing music."

"My friends dad told him "'They don't charge anything to listen to the music'."- tatersalad1234567890

Words Escape You In The Literal "Heat" Of The Moment...

"A friend of mine is a teacher and her husband is known for his wit."

"She told this story to him:"

"One day at school a kid took the hall pass and returned reeking like smoke."

"She asked the kid if he’d been smoking and he denied it over and over."

"She was about to send him to the office when she noticed smoke coming from somewhere."

"She told the kid and he realized that he didn’t put his cig out completely and it was burning in his pants pocket."

"The kid noticed and frantically tried to put it out and someone finally poured water on it."

"Her husband sat listening to this with a weird look on his face."

"She asked him what was wrong."

“'What’s wrong???'"

"'This was probably the only chance you’ll have in your life to say literally, ‘liar,liar, pants on fire’ and you missed your chance'."- Luder714

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Amazing What You Might Say A Few Drinks In...

"When I went to a renaissance faire once, I went to a beer tent and ordered a Newcastle Brown Ale (seemed the most fitting for the surroundings)."

"The beer wench, without skipping a beat, said, 'Everyone wants a Newcastle - no one wants to remodel!'"- jayhof52

Read The Room People!

"My dad wiped out when skiing down a mountain and lost a ski."

"After a few minutes of hunting for it, he gives up, slings the one remaining ski over a shoulder and starts walking down the mountain in his ski boots."

"About half-way down, another skier stops and goes 'Gee! Did you lose a ski?'"

"My dad instantly replied 'No, I was out for a walk and found one!'"- PeterJoAl

There's a reason your mother always told you to "use your words".

As clever remarks can have a much more lasting effect on people than a push or shove.