Never dip your pen in the company ink.
An age-old saying warning you not to seek out love within your workplace.
In most cases, this is just a word of caution. In others, dating your colleagues is still against company policies or can only be done after a mountain load of paperwork is completed.
While some might find this ridiculous, many find it understandable and adhere very closely to these rules.
After all, what could be more awkward than your ex or an ill-advised one-night stand sitting in the next cubicle over?
Even so, when you think you feel sexual tension with a colleague or co-worker, it can be hard not to act on that impulse.
Because really, what's the worst that could happen?
"Coworkers that couldn’t handle the sexual tension anymore and went for it. How’d it turn out?"
A Very Costly Mistake
"Really poorly tbh."
"Extremely drunk sex and ended up losing our friendship."
"We were 24 and worked at a bank together, we used to be best friends."
"But now we haven’t talked in years."- sarruhgirl·
Nope
"I have been rejected respectfully each time."- kingspooky93·
There Can Be Too Much Of A Good Thing
"Not great."
"Dated for just over a year (on and off), but now that we’re not together, it sucks having to see her almost every day."-StellarSandDweller·
It Happened...
"After years of sexual tension we did it."
"It wasn't anything close of what we expected, never talked about it again and we went back to just being friends."-dimensionsanalyst
Lucky For Him, Less So For Her...
"She's been suffering my snoring for 20 years now."- get_off_my_lawn_n0w
Didn't Go Unnoticed
"HR all of a sudden wanted a 'friendly chat'."- DiggingUpTheCorpses
Ups And Downs...
"Made out in the walk-in fridge."
"Went out for a while, got engaged, moved in together, got married, started drifting apart, realized we were growing into different people with very different long term goals, got divorced, haven’t really spoken since."
"Together for close to 11 years total."
"Main issue was kids."
"We both wanted them at first, then she no longer did."
"We cared enough for each other to not want to see the other unhappy long term, and we had an amicable split."
"We did not get married in the walk-in, nor spend a tremendous amount of time in it."
"We DID have an ice sculpture at the wedding however."
"It was not a Netflix & Chill deal, it was years and years ago, so more like Blockbuster & Chill."
"I’m good now, thanks."- gn0xious
No Issue Here...
"I run a sole proprietorship, so I 'go for it' about twice a day."
"Don't think it will last, though; I'm not really my type."- MyNSFWside
Got Out When The Getting Was Good
"It was great."
"Good sex, and then I left the job before it got weird."- TIMBURWOLF·
No Regrets Whatsoever
"It was the hottest sex I ever had."
"We are still in touch, but we are continents apart."
"I haven't met him since 2013."
"Pretty sure if we meet again, we will not waste time talking."- SingingBull
"Had sex with him two months into my employment there."
"Nineteen years later we have a mortgage in the suburbs and two children."- Extra-Simple9711·
I Love You Episode 20 GIF by The OfficeGiphyNothing But Regrets
"Terrible."
"'Don’t f**k your boss."- oyofmidmidworld
A Bit Of Good Luck?
"Been together for 5 years now and still working in the same company (different departments)."
"Both of us had multiple promotions since we got together."
"Great sex and great on saving gas and food expense as we live together now lol."- crapuccino4
You Can't Make This Stuff Up
"Not great."
"He would flirt with me and come over to hang out."
"Told how he was trying to evict his ex girlfriend from the apartment because she wouldn't leave before the lease was up (which was true btw she confirmed that)."
"He told me he liked me alot and wanted to get to know me."
"Then he decided that He wanted to convert to Mormonism."
"He became panicked about going to hell and after we would hang out (nothing sexual) he would sob."
"Full on sob."
"Begging God to forgive him."
"He and the rest of the people I worked with were tight and he would go through these depressive episodes and crash at their houses."
"I started getting bullied and harassed HARD at work."
"One day he invites me to his house to watch a movie."
"We watch the movie."
"He tries to kiss me but not really."
"I am confused as f*ck at this point and ask him to take me home."
"On the way he asks me if I like him, I said yes I really liked him."
"He asked me if I would consider dating him and maybe have a sexual relationship with him."
"I said yes because I really liked him."
"HE LAUGHED AND SAID I WAS NOTHING BUT A NYMPHO WH*RE BROUGHT TO HIM BY SATAN TO MAKE HIM STUBLE IN HIS WALK WITH GOD!"
"He said there was no way he would ever consider me because I was not A Good Mormon Girl."
"He dropped me at my car after bursting into sobs AGAIN and yelled he has to pray for his soul I sh*t you not."
"Turns out he was telling EVERYONE that I was 'forcing myself onto him' and he was uncomfortable with me."
"The bullying got worse."
"I quit with no notice."
"I WAS ONLY THERE FOR 45 DAYS."- PwrtopUltimate
Samuel L Jackson Reaction GIF by Coming to AmericaGiphyYou never know when love might hit you, and sometimes it might be on an elevator to your office.
Even so, always proceed with caution.
After all, think about how awkward it is to run into an ex or a one-night stand on the street, then think about what that would be like 8 hours a day, five days a week...
In one of the more memorable moments of the teen comedy classic Mean Girls, Queen Bee Regina George often rejects Gretchen Weiner's attempts at making "Fetch" part of the commonplace jargon at North Shore High School.
Even if we might not react the same way as the domineering Regina George, who hasn't found themselves rolling their eyes on numerous occasions when people use Buzzwords and contemporary phrases in the workplace.
Be it out of an attempt to appear cooler, or amidst fears of being politically incorrect, job listings, inter-office memos, and speeches at corporate events always feature commonly used buzzwords or buzzwords those speaking hope might find their way into everyday speech.
Much to the annoyance, if not outright disdain of those on the receiving end.
"What are the most annoying corporate buzzwords or phrases you’re sick of?"
How, exactly?
"Take a more holistic approach"- MGM1312
Don't give me adjectives, give me the amounts!
"Competitive pay."- AJackOffAllTrade
Not Everyone Loves Their Family...
"'Our workers are part of our family' or something along the lines of that."- NotJoeMama727
Season 8 Nbc GIF by The OfficeGiphyThat Wasn't In The Job Description
"'We all wear multiple hats around here'."
"I hear this everyday."
"It's just an excuse to not hire anyone else."- ChurchWineDrunk
Don't Sacrifice The Grammar...
"When someone refers to a request as an 'ask'.”- Alpha_State
Life In The "Fast" Lane...
"'Willing to work in fast-paced environment'."
"*ends up in cubicle*."- Raven0uss
Over It Reaction GIF by jjjjjohnGiphyWhere Do You Even Begin?
“'OK guys, we’re going to stay off-line today, take a deep dive to drill down and ignore the low hanging fruit, run some ideas up the flagpole and bubble the consequences to the top of the heap'."
"'The bottom line, according to the hive mind, is that we have to circle back, not reinvent the wheel, and reach out to make sure our deliverables are on everyone’s radar'."
"'Let’s not step on each other’s toes as we touch base, so here’s a heads up, when you’re thinking outside the box, please make sure we’re singing from the same hymn sheet, especially in acurated B2B environment'."
"'We need to leverage cutting edge synergy while optimizing our innovative solutions, otherwise our newly on-boarded micro-influencers will never disrupt the market before the deadline reaches terminal velocity'.”- poxymoron1
Or "Rockstar" Anything...
"'Rockstar developer' fortunately seems to be declining."-Tbone139
It's Not Attractive To Gloat...
"Win win win."
"My companies execs have started saying that for anything that's good."
"Firstly people said win win for something that was good for both parties, this makes sense."
"One popular exec said win win win once for something that helped us, our third party partners and the customer."
"That's fine as a one off and a good play on the original expression."
"But now every exec says it's a win win win when something good happens."
"They're not even a win win, just something that's good for one party."- NotACockroach
Winning The Office GIFGiphyI Should Hope So!
"We have values."- Jakaple
With workplace culture being monitored more than ever, it's understandable why some old school bosses and CEOs want to be more with the times.
As a result, they might choose their words very carefully, maybe too carefully, in an effort to impress their employees, not to mention the public.
However, there might be an even better way of doing that.
By simply being a good boss.
Corporate buzzwords.
Most of us are familiar with them.
Phrases like "paradigm shift," "outside the box," "on brand" and "deep dive" rattle around offices.
Words like synergy, pivot, scalability and leverage get bandied about office emails.
And most of us hate them even as we use them.
Redditor Spec1alistInFailure asked:
"What corporate buzzwords/phrases make your skin crawl?"
the times
"In these unprecedented times...'."
- NFRNL13
"I want to go back to the precedented times."
- edlee98765
"It’s been 2 years."
"I think a precedent has been set."
- tom267
"In these now very well precedented times...'."
- Paddy_Tanninger
job (lack of) description
“We are looking for a dynamic and enthusiastic team player who is confident and adaptable."
"Responsibilities include supporting senior leadership and taking responsibility for duties and workloads as assigned."
"You’ll be a member of an exciting and fast paced team working in a challenging environment.”
"YES BUT WHAT DO I DO?"
- Electronic_Rub9385
Giphy"Don't forget this nugget, which I saw on a job posting last week, 'Exhibiting courage in the face of ambiguity'."
"Pretty sure that's code for 'You won't know what to do and will have to figure it out in the moment. And it might make you question your integrity'."
- PrincessJos
"Or it means 'You'll be getting conflicting orders from multiple levels of management that all somehow answer to each other but there's zero accountability, so no matter what, your choice will be wrong, so you might as well do whatever you decide is best and take whatever vitriol is thrown at you'."
"'Right to work laws apply, employee can be fired at a moments notice but employee must provide 2 weeks notice if they intend to terminate employment'."
"'Masters Degree desired'."
"'$18/hr'."
- loptopandbingo
"WhY dOeSn'T aNyOnE wAnT tO wOrK aNyMoRe?"
- ikindalold
Is there a slow paced one?
"Fast paced environment..."
- llcucf80
"Aka: 'you'll be doing the work of two or three, but only getting paid for one (barely)'."
"Source: I worked in a 'fast paced environment' for nearly five years. I had a nervous breakdown and panic attacks, and am now on anti-anxiety medication."
"My old boss was like 'don't be afraid to drop a few balls' then fired me after saying that after 5 years I was 'no longer a good fit'."
"She also told me that I should be empowered to know when to say no, but then always told me that I wasn't doing enough to help the other members of the team if I said it."
- Darwinian_10
Giphyunderstaffed
"'Rightsizing'. It means they're going to fire a bunch of people and dump all that extra work on those who remain."
- Coogles
"As in 'Merge departments. Ah, too many people now. Let's fire the undesirables'."
"Wait a bit. 'We're going to split up the department'."
- Tokugawa
"Yeah, funny how 'right sizing' never translates to hiring to meet a higher workload."
- tris_majestis
"No, because you don't need a friendlier sounding euphemism for 'exciting growth opportunities'."
- Mijal
I prefer the classics.
"'Rockstar'."
"As in 'we're looking for rockstars' in a workplace that is as far removed from guitars, moshpits, and headbanging as possible."
- PM_ME_FOODIE_SPOTS
"Usually, the Rockstars are the best of the best. However, Rockstars cost way more than most companies budget for them."
"They want a Rockstar on a high school musician's salary."
- Jethris
"'Looking for a Rockstar employee'."
"Well you got it boss, I will gladly drink all day and show up hours late on a regular basis."
- BananaDictator29
"Rockstar, superstar, guru, and all-star. I've seen them all and it feels kinda childish."
- Rigel04
"Don't forget ninja. Or actually, let's please forget about ninja."
- regcrusher
Giphy"I know."
"There are fully grown adults going around calling themselves these names to help sell marketing books."
"So embarrassing."
- AndyVale
"The more cutesy the term a company uses for employees, the worse they treat them, in my experience."
"It’s doublespeak. I actually viewed them as red flags when I was looking for low-wage customers service jobs, in a tier."
"• Crew/associates/agents: slightly obnoxious but okay, because these are true and pretty much the same as employee."
"• Teammates/partners/family members: bad because they imply that you’re on equal footing with the corporate employees who very much view you as a replaceable piece of equipment."
"• Rockstars/champions/cast members/sandwich artists, etc.: the fact that they have to try so hard with these cringy terms shows that they have nothing to offer. These are usually bottom of the barrel, last resort, short term jobs."
- KATEWM
headwear
"'Wear many hats'."
"Aka do your job and other people’s jobs as well."
- throwaway28236
"Yeah, my last job at a ~200 employee company was network admin, system admin, cloud admin, voice admin, desktop support, etc..
"If it was IT related in any way, it was on my plate. I don't miss it."
- EvlMinion
Giphy"This is usually smaller companies doing things on the cheap, or who can't afford to pay more."
"In my InfoSec days a recruiter LinkedIn messaged me with an opportunity. It was basically CISO, Security Engineer, Penetration Tester and Vulnerability Manager, and a one-man SOC all rolled into one role. Salary £50k."
"That was taking the piss. With the right experience those jobs each are worth more than £50k, the CISO can run into six figures for a good one."
- _spookyvision_
Can I be disowned?
"We’re a family here."
- morphinemso4
"See also: 'You’re not an employee, you’re a partner'."
"'But you still basically make minimum wage. We’ll give you stock options but you won’t make enough money to actually take advantage of those stock options'."
"'Also, you will only get 29 hours of work a week so we don’t have to give any benefits. Oh yeah, and there is no profit sharing'."
"'But you absolutely must refer to yourself as a partner. Now go put on a green apron and make me a f'king Frappuccino'.~Howard Shultz"
- OrchidBest
"Associate is my favorite. You're not even a partner, you're just associated with us in some way."
"'You know, doing the one thing our customers care about paying for, but we'll make sure you get as little money as possible'."
"Me, bitter? Why yes, yes I am."
- Grabnor
It's not easy being green.
"Using 'sustainability' like it is some newfound concept. Bonus points for using it incorrectly."
- FYLBingB0ng
"I do some copywriting for clothing companies and basically if they aren't disposable after you wear them twice and are overpriced they market themselves as sustainable."
- johnbugara
"There's a Levi's ad out now that basically is 'Save the world by wearing Levi's, because it doesn't wear out in a week'."
- Squigglepig52
GiphyThis should have been an email.
"There are many diabolical buzzword bingo winners, but none more diabolical than 'let's regroup in...'."
"That means there is going to be yet ANOTHER of those interminable, time-wasting, meaningless hot-air spewing, MEETINGS in your not so distant future, and you'll be lucky if it only messes with your WORK schedule and doesn't threaten your lunch hour or quitting time."
- Reddidundant
And...
"Annoying phrases (conference call, webinar and Covid-19 edition):"
"This is a living breathing document"
"It's a fluid situation"
"At the end of the day..."
"It is what it is"
"At the end of the day, it is what it is"
"I could care less"
"2 a.m. in the morning"
"Irregardless"
"...puts the onus on..."
"You can't make it up"
"In a vacuum"
"Let's put that in the parking lot and revisit..."
"Adding 'gate' to the end of a word to describe the current scandal"
"Non-military 'boots on the ground'"
"I'm not married to that idea"
"I want to piggyback on that point"
"Telework is no longer necessary"
"Stand down"
"A nothing-burger"
"In these crazy, unprecedented, trying times..."
- Jadakevy
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Have you ever worked a job that was super toxic? Like the type where you hated going into work, and the threat of being fired at any second was always looming over your head? I have, and it sucks. I worked for a florist, and I got fired for throwing up at work after a bad reaction from medication. That sucked.
Clearly, I'm not the only one this has happened to. Bad jobs are a universal struggle, and getting fired for dumb reasons happens all the time. Lois_is_whatever asked:
People who got fired for the stupidest reason, what happened?
Retail jobs can be very fickle. That’s why these former employees left on unsteady terms.
This is so shady.
“Worked at Best Buy in the mid 90s when I was 16. I worked selling computers, and was pretty good at it. We also sold things like memory, and hard drives that were behind lock and key. Part of our job was to take the tagged inventory from the trucks, and put it on the shelves. This included said memory.
So I close one night, put away all the new inventory, lock it up, and hand the keys to the manager. They do their checks of our department and we leave for the night. Next day I'm scheduled, I go in and the loss prevention manager said he has me on video stealing memory. I laughed and said, show me the video. Well I'm somewhat tall, red hair, and white. The video he shows me has an older, very short, white guy with a shaved head. He told me that it was me, and that I was fired, and only showed me the video once, and immediately turned off the monitor.
Being 16, I didn't know any better, said some things on my way out, like f*ck you, f*ck this place, and the like, and I left. Turns out the loss prevention guy, and his son were stealing for years to the tune over $250,000 and the guy on the video he showed me was his son. Anytime problems popped up of missing inventory, they just fired a random person to keep the attention away from themselves. When police arrested them, their house was loaded with televisions, computers, everything from the store.
TL;DR fired for stealing when the video was of the loss prevention manager's son stealing."
When employers can’t take responsibility for their own mistakes.
schitts creek comedy GIF by CBCGiphy"This would have been one of my first jobs that I didn't even get a chance to start.
I applied to be a deckhand on a local ferry. Went through unpaid training as part of the interview process. First aid, CPR, crisis management, safety policy whatnots. All group interviews. Anyway, I got the job after about a week. I also got my offer in writing with the expected start date. That was going to be a Tuesday two weeks later (and I remember this detail because it went to sh!t.) I accept and sign and take my copy.
I was thrilled. I was going to be on the water and making money for the summer. My friends were hanging out down by the water when I left the interview so I went and told them all about it and the start date, etc. Again, cementing that start date in my mind so I was ready.
The following week, a week before I was supposed to start, I got a call from the office asking where I was. "We expected you to be here an hour ago", and so on.
I asked them to check the offer that I had signed because I was never told that my start date had changed. I mean, I was available and explained that I'd be happy to come down right away but I hadn't known of any changes. They checked, agreed that they had made the mistake, and then told me that, nevertheless, a miscommunication this early on was a bad sign and they would not be hiring me.
So I was 'let go' because someone put down the wrong date."
That’s definitely not what they said.
“During my senior year in high school, I was working at McDonald's, it was right after Christmas and we were really busy. I'd been there 4 hours, had 2 to go, was supposed to get a 30 minute break, since we'd slowed down I asked if I could have a break. The shift manager said no one was getting breaks. I said "thanks a lot', she told the assistant manager (pretty sure they were sleeping together) that I told her to f*ck off. He fired me on the spot. Wouldn't even let me give my side of the story.
A week later I was working at Jack in the Box. Was a shift manager in 6 months, did that through a couple years of college, dropped out (never wanted to go anyway) and moved up to assistant manager and then a couple years later, general manager. I remembered how I was treated at McDonald's and made sure I treated my employees well. Had the 3rd lowest turnover rate in a 95 restaurant region, had the second highest average hourly pay...and #2 in profit improvement. Take care of your people and they'll do the same for you."
It’s almost as if some jobs want 100% loyalty, despite the fact that their employees have a life of their own.
“Job before family”? Really?
“I was driving cars for a shady dealer. (Under the table while I was laid off from my real job) Got a call that my uncle had attempted suicide and was in a psychiatric ward in a local hospital and wouldn't talk to anybody else but me.
Told boss I had to roll. He said something like; "Your job comes before family. If you leave, don't come back."
I left. The next morning he called and asked me why I wasn't at work. I hung up on him.”
School comes first.
Season 2 Wtf GIF by Parks and RecreationGiphy“I took a job with a movie theater in high school, only accepted the job because they promised me a set schedule. Me and another coworker worked it out where one of us was always on shift. About a month after I started, they handed me a new schedule starting at 2pm. I was in class until 3. Told them no. Got fired for my lack of commitment to the theater.”
People Describe The Worst Adult Tantrum They've Ever Witnessed | George Takei’s Oh Myyy
God forbid they drink water.
“My wife got fired once for giving a high level donor (she worked for an art gallery) a bottle of water at a big dinner and art auction. Her boss had insisted that there be no water at the event, but when the donor asked for water, my wife went and found some d*mn water. Boss found out and fired her the next day for insubordination.”
It’s important to remember that if you get fired for a dumb reason, you probably wouldn’t want to work there anyway.
Thanks a lot, mom.
“My first job ever was as a dish washer. I was so proud. I was 18. Of course, my parents didn’t believe me so my mom called them and asked them if it was true.
They fired me that night because they felt I was unreliable. I have yet to let my folks live that one down...”
Weird rule but ok.
Reese Witherspoon Mom GIF by HULUGiphy“Got fired from a public library for taking TWO carts to collect books from the outside Dropbox instead of ONE. The past few times I emptied the dropbox on a Monday it required two trips, So I brought two carts instead.
It turns out the matter of how many carts were used in emptying the dropbox was a matter of a library board vote and I was in violation of a town ordinance.
Mind you, I wasn't fired. I was placed on paid administrative leave pending a library board inquiry at which I was welcome to call witnesses. I couldn't keep a straight face, so I resigned.”
What happens on break, stays on break.
“I was fired for playing solitaire on my 15 min break when I was working as a receptionist. The doctor who owned the clinic was dumb enough to put that as the reason in my termination letter. I collected unemployment after he tried to appeal it. They explained in great detail how stupid of a reason this was for termination.”
Let the man retire.
“Guy preparing to retire, who had been training me to take over his job for the past 7 months, felt I was ready to take over completely.
Boss was afraid to lose 30+ years of experience and fired me to keep the old guy for a little longer.
From what I understand there was a pretty big fight. Old guy was a wonderful reference for me with the new job I obtained, with a 20k+ pay raise, and begrudgingly agreed to stay on for another year.”
Like I said, jobs that pull this kind of stuff are not jobs you want to work for. Good jobs are out there- you just gotta find them.
And to the bosses listed in this article- maybe stop being so shady? Just a suggestion.
When hunting for a job, making it to the interview stage is an exiting moment. The tedium of resume beefing, cover letter writing, and phone interview minutiae has finally paid off.
But it's important to not allow that excitement to cloud one's judgment. Just because an employer may want you, that doesn't automatically mean you need to want them.
Some Redditors recently gathered to discuss the clearest signs that you should think twice about a prospective employer and keep searching.
Sardinesocks asked, "What are some red flags when talking to potential employers?"
Many people identified the signs--both subtle and glaringly obvious--that a workplace is not a socially or professionally comfortable place to be.
They advised ways to determine if a place would turn out be a toxic environment day in and day out.
Sensing a Pattern
"Everyone assures you the dozens of people, who had your position before you, were simply disgruntled or had political agendas to damage the organization."
"A bigger one is verbal statements become totally different, whenever it becomes a text or e mail, after you start."
-- ThePoetZiggy
Maybe It's the Team
" 'We've had a hard time finding someone who fits in well with our current team' "
"Usually it's because there's something weird or toxic about the 'current team' and they can't find anyone willing to stay and put up with it."
What Would Happen When You Leave the Room
"When the interviewer makes insulting remarks about their current employees." -- WebsiteArchivalBot
"Or, uses the statement 'I know I probably shouldn't be saying this, but.....' " -- CircleBackMurray
"I would add the more subtle 'we like your enthusiasm, it's refreshing' "
"Turn out every employee is either overworked and/or depressed because it's understaffed."
"Yeah, my enthusiasm quickly faded." -- sunforrest
Flipping It Around
"when I'm interviewing I always ask about turnover in the team and company. like 'how long have YOU been with the company' and 'how much turnover did this team have in the last year?' "
"if everyone you talk to has been with the company months, not years, and you find out that half the team quit in the last year, they've got a very serious turnover problem."
"even if it's for legitimate reasons, it's a good sign of a poorly functioning team."
Others discussed the very cute and enthusiastic ways that company's divulge just how structurally unsound they really are. Typically, this amounts to under-staffing or general personnel chaos.
Either way, you'd be best to turn the other way.
Way Too Easy
"When they hire you on the spot they're understaffed and you're gonna be doing the work of at least two people." -- peachu_
"and it'll never be enough" -- frequentstreaker
"Also means they probably aren't getting qualified candidates. If you aren't in the industry, that can be a good signal. If you are, you've probably already gotten that signal." -- Fadnn6
That Fun Lingo
"Any time they use 'rockstar,' 'ninja,' 'unicorn' or 'guru' to describe a position. Extra-neon-red flag if they can't easily describe or articulate the duties and responsibilities of the role." -- SDFDuck
"Looking for a self-starter rockstar. Must be flexible and comfortable with multi tasking and wearing different hats. We have competitive wages and a casual atmosphere. We work hard, we play hard!"
"Are you this unicorn? Come join our family!" -- the_electric_company
"Many Hats" Isn't Always Ideal
"Be aware of the term 'Wear many hats.' It means they aren't sure what they want and your job duties will be largely ambiguous."
"This could lead to you getting all the work nobody else wants, or leave you with no clear direction for what to do."
"This can be good if you are truly a self-starter who looks for opportunities to improve things and acts on them, but if you need direction with your job duties it's probably best to steer clear."
-- Byizo
Finally, some people described the problems that accompany employers who are dodgy with their information about finances, be that of the company or the payment standards of the particular position in question.
Nope, It's a Job
"When they don't offer salary/pay rate info, or are reluctant to give it. Or if they imply that you're there for something other than a paycheck."
"They're trying to guilt you into taking less pay than you're worth."
-- VVillyD
6 Months Becomes Forever
"We can start you off at ____ because we are a small buisness but we can talk about a raise in 6 months. ( you will never have that convo)" -- qwertycvbnmasdfkhgfs
"See also: postings with a salary range from some low figure to as much as 100% more as the high. They're gonna waste too much your time before they tell you you'll have to start near the lower figure and not the one that was merely there to draw you in." -- The_Quibbler
Just Came Right Out With It
"In an interview a potential employer once told me..."
" 'Well you certainly have the skills for the job and then some and we all really like you so far...the problem is, it's not that I don't want to pay you what you're worth, but I don't have the money to pay you what you're worth. Will that be a dealbreaker?' "
-- RayDeaver
Ideally, you're happy at your job and have no need to go through these kinds of interactions.
But in case you're on the hunt, or unemployed altogether, keep these tidbits top of mind.
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