We all know you clicked this story looking for Karens karening the Karen. Let it never be said that I don't give the people what they want.
One Reddit user asked:
Yup. It was a Karenfest in the comments. We picked out some of our "favorite" moments to share with you and ... fam ... things got rough. We're going to start with a driver who got offended that her passengers wore seatbelts. Starting. We're starting there. Imagine where it goes if that's where we're starting.
Imagine where it goes if that's where it starts!
Seatbelts Save Lives
One time someone got offended when I put on my seatbelt, thought I was commenting on her ability to drive.
Same thing happened to me! The Uber driver said "Do you wear your seatbelt when you're with your dad?"
I said "Yes"
Same thing happened to me. My uncle was driving and giving me grief over wearing my seat belt. He hit a patch of ice and fishtailed a bit right afterward. I still haven't let him live that down.
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Maybe 22 years ago, I had a phone interview with a baking company. I didn't care to have my peers know what I was up to so I took the call on my cell phone in my car. The call was crystal clear and no technical issues.
At one point, they had mentioned the weather and asked how it was where I was. I told him that I was sitting in my car and I could see that it was actively snowing and what not. The interviewer asked me, "are you taking this call on a cell phone?" I told him I was. Then he asked me if I thought that was appropriate.
I asked him what he meant by that. He said he thought it was kind of rude to take a formal call on a cell phone. I told him I would be more than happy to conclude the interview if talking on a cell phone was an issue. If he was interested, I'd be happy to continue it the next day when I'd be at a desk.
He again repeated how rude he thought it was that I had called from a cell phone and that there was no need to continue the interview process. I disagreed with the first point but did agree with the second.
To this day, I wonder what the hell he was talking about and where he was coming from.
While working tech support back during the dot com boom I had a customer get upset with me over the use of the word "icon". He said it had religious implications and he insisted I call Windows icons "little picture things"
Man this reminded me of the time my dad stopped my sister and I from using the word "awesome" to describe anything except for religious things. Because only god can do truly awesome things.
This reminds me of when I worked insurance and was telling our customer why I believed we were a great value. "Stop saying 'I believe'! That's for talking about God and Jesus Christ!"
When I was a child, my mum paid for something with a cheque. The cashier remarked that my mum had nice hand writing My mum flew off the handle, and we had to storm out of the shop in outrage.
To this day, I have no idea what happened.
That's Not How Genetics Work
Had someone get offended by me calling my brother "bro". They insisted that I was racist and that white people can't be related to Mexicans.
Like seriously lady. That's not how genetics work. We are 100% related and are a mix of white and Native American. Its not that unheard of for one biological sibling to come out lighter or darker than the other.
And even if we weren't related... Seriously? I'm racist for calling someone close to me my bro despite being different skin tones? Seriously?
Thank you for coming to my rant session. Have a good day.
At my wedding we marked the vegetarian items as vegetarian. This made the one vegetarian at my wedding (sister in law who hates me) fly into a catatonic rage because we are singling out the vegetarian food as vegetarian and not treating it as normal food.
Then how the fck are people supposed to know its vegetarian?
Your sister in law sucks! As a vegetarian who knows many other vegetarians (and some people who are not vegetarian but have allergies to seafood and certain meats) everyone I know would be very happy with veggie foods being labeled as such.
Most of us don't want to have to ask and make a big deal of it. Your sister in law just chose something to rage about because she's a POS.
The correct response is (as a vegan myself): "Wow, thank you for considering me on your special day! Hope you have a wonderful marriage!"
I've gone to so many parties and weddings that didn't have a single veggie/vegan option and you know what, I just ate something before and after. It's not about you and it's totally awesome of the planners to think of alternative diets.
A sandwich. I kid you not. My Ex husband was given a sandwich by our then 13 yr old daughter. Because she cut the sandwich, he went off on a massive strop about how his sandwiches should never be cut etc. The poor kids face, she was crushed. It still winds me up to no end every time I think about it.
WOW! I thought my... soon to be ex husband, was the only a-hole who did this. When we first moved in together, it was my "job" to make his lunches. I made him a sandwich and cut it in half and he flipped on me, that he wasn't a "child" and his coworkers would "make fun of" him. Like seriously? It's a SANDWICH.
My dad was like that, and got upset that I put mac and cheese in the left tray part of his favorite plate thing instead of the right— please get her into therapy if you haven't yet, lord knows I needed it.
I once listened to my boss try to lecture the Fire Marshall because he was talking about something being flame retardant (her reasoning was you should just call it fireproof because retardant was an awful word.). It was one of those times where I really should have tried to stop her but instead I just stood off to the side probably making a surprised Pikachu face.
I got an angry call from a client at the vet hospital I used to work at. She was angry that the doctor had written in her dog's chart something along the lines of "chemotherapy has retarded the growth of the tumor". She was deeply offended that the vet called her dog retarded.
The funny thing, is fireproof and fire retardant have two different meanings also. If he said fire proof that may not even be accurate.
This guy at a Halloween party I was at was dressed in a giant bacon costume.
Some girl was yelling at him for being so offensive toward Jews and Muslims (she was neither Jewish nor Muslim). One of the Muslim guys at the party asked her what the f*ck she was talking about but she didn't back down lol
I have no idea why people feel they need to go out of their way to be (inaccurately) offended on behalf of other cultures/religions
This is basically 80% of online/social media social justice discourse. It's usually a load of white people getting offended on behalf of whatever group they perceive is being slighted, regardless of whether said group gives a shit.
I told my my sister in a PM that it's "1st" not "1rst" after she posted something on Facebook with the spelling error. She flipped out saying how I'm a "bully" and I need to "appreciate that her spelling is more unique".
From now on, send her daily lists in the form of;
Onest, Twost, Threed, Fourer, Fiver, Sex, Several, Ayt, Nein, Ten.
Don't even worry about the content. To-do lists, fun facts, your favourite foods by category. Go wild. Let her know you're turning Twaty-Nein soon and did she get you a cake? Absolutely go nuts with this, even if this story is a year old. You gotta.
I had a coworker who got mad at me because I asked her not to tickle me.
(a) That's inappropriate at work; (b) we're not children, we're not in a relationship, we're not family; (c) I DON'T LIKE BEING TICKLED.
She flipped out and said everyone likes being tickled and I was being mean to her. Happily my boss had my back.
This happened over a decade ago, I don't work with that woman or for that company. In fact, even the company doesn't exist anymore.
I am also a woman.
The coworker was very young and immature. This was her first job, her first time in a professional environment, and she really had no clue about professional workplace behavior. I wasn't upset because she truly thought she was being friendly.
But I still don't like being tickled.
I managed a small, new team that had no procedures or policies, so I set about instituting some. I told the team: "I mean, you never know, I could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then no one would know how to process these requests."
Then I asked for their feedback and for them to write up how they did their tasks. We would then come back together and decide best practices in a meeting.
Little man filed a complaint to the manager for my use of "violent imagery" and said that he felt threatened. It was a whole thing. Ultimately, he got fired. Not just over this, but he was a legitimately terrible employee with real issues having a woman in charge. Fck him, byeeeeeeeee.
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We are in trying and interesting times. Everyone is on edge when it comes to how they're feel and what they believe. And there are some very real issues that we have the right to be on edge about. A real change is gonna come. But there are a few things that people are getting a little crazy about; like the tv shows or opposing ideas on icing for cake. People.... lighten up. Not everything is so serious. There are pills to help with levity.Redditor u/Chanel-Number-5 wanted everyone to have an open discussion about all the things and sayings that others take issue with these days by asking.... What's the weirdest thing people get offended by?
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Hearing about their kids behaving badly.
My niece is freaking hellish. When things don't go her way, or we ask her a simple question, she flips out and throws a tantrum, and when I told my brother (her father) he also flipped out saying "sHeS jUsT StrOngEd wIlLed." He did this as he bounced on his toes from frustration and claiming I 'can't offend him.'
On the Flip Side.
I'm in the US south and I ma'am and sir pretty much every stranger I come across in the wild. It's just what I've grown up with and is meant as being respectful.
We get a lot of tourists and occasionally I'll ma'am a woman and she'll flip thinking I'm calling her old and if I sir some guy they'll think it's like a sarcastic challenge.
On the flip side, any locals who you don't ma'am and sir will get offended, so I'm in a pickle every tourist season. Living in constant fear of ma'ams and sirs.
Judge and Jury
My roommate always has to tell us the same freaking story any time me and my wife are playing Animal Crossing together. "I used to play that as a kid on the GameCube. Now I just don't get the point."
We get it, you're and adult and are passive aggressively judging us for enjoying things you don't have an interest in. Now go away and let me sell my turnips.
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I had a similar problem with a German woman. I was serving drinks in the backstage area of a music festival. I refer to the young woman VIP I'm serving (one of the performers) as "Sie" (2nd person, formal pronoun), because, as far as I am concerned, she is clearly higher status than me in this transaction despite us being about the same age. And she goes off on me because "I don't look that old!" Of course not, but what level of familiarity are you expecting from volunteer bar staff as one of the stars? I'm surprised to be in the same room with half these people, let alone talking to them as equals!
Seeing people flip out on someone else having a private conversation in another language always confused me. Why are you eavesdropping in the first place?
People who get pissy if you say, "no problem" when they thank you. Some dude, who I imagine must have a very fulfilling life, wrote a whole article about how rude it is to say "no problem" instead of "you're welcome."
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When you don't like a certain food, movie, TV show or basically have a different opinion.
Religious choices or lack thereof. I don't care what religion someone chooses to follow. I am not religious but I live around some devout Christians. I have a neighbor that would always talk to me but since he found out that I am not religious, he has started to ignore me. I don't get why we still can't remain friends. I'm not running around killing, stealing or lying.
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If you give someone a complement out of the ordinary. Most people don't expect kindness and think you are being sarcastic.
Sad to see that being nice is not expected by people.
Like seriously lady?
I was approached by a customer a long time ago while working retail, and I said, "What's up, how can I help you?" And she went off on some loud, non sensical tirade of my butchery of the english language, and when she concluded her rant, she casually mentions she's an English teacher in HS. Internally I'm sarcastically congratulating her, and just repeat if she needs help with anything. She huffs and complains to my manager, who just politely shines her on.
Like seriously lady? Her rant just made me continue to use my lazy english butchery.
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When you say no to what they asked from you.
Its like when your parents used to ask you to do chores but it isn't like you have the option to say no.
Standing up for yourself within reason.
People will forever get offended for no longer being able to take advantage of you, and they act like that's the weird part.
People will always be upset when you prevent yourself from being used or abused by them. People who aren't looking to cross your boundaries have no problem with them.
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Someone just doing their job.
"No, you can't use that coupon that's been expired since 1971"
"I can't believe how rude that cashier was"
Worked in a clothing store that would send $10 off $25 coupons occasionally. For obvious reasons, you can only use them once, so we were told to rip them up and throw them away after scanning them. The anger that would fill the old ladies' faces when I ripped that coupon in half and threw it in the garbage after scanning it was scary. Once, a customer angrily demanded that I give her the coupon back so she could use it again, so I scribbled on it with a black sharpie and gave it to her with a "have a nice day." I really shouldn't be in customer service.
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Others' tastes and interests.
(Music, video games, movies, etc.)
As a metalhead I get this a lot, but you ain't seen nothing until you get metal elitists talking about other metal!
Sail on By....
Passing them in traffic.
I recently got a car with cruise control and I was able to test a theory I always had. Do people actually go faster when I pass them or do I unconsciously slow down. Now if I think someone is speeding up I put on CC and keep the speed constant and watch people sail past me like their family's honor is on the line.
Asking people what they think then getting upset when people tell them what they think.
I've watched too many dating shows where someone asks "how old do you think I am?" and then gets offended by the response.
You don't have any taste!
I have a friend, and his wife, who pretty much have the attitude of "you have to like (and also not like) the same TV shows, music, movies, hobbies as we do, or else we're going to give you the third degree". They're both super into the comic book movies, I'm not. Not saying they're bad, just not my thing. "What!?!? How can you not like them? They're so good!! You have to watch them!! You don't have any taste!"
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Asking to be paid back. I lend you money then suddenly I'm the butthole when I ask for it back.
Then they say "ok, I'll send $100 a month" and then never do it. and still have the gusto to interact with you on social media as if nothing ever happened. istg.
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When you get someone's dog's gender wrong. Everyone keeps calling my black lab mix a boy "good boy, hey buddy!" I don't care, but when I got a little fluffy white dog named Tinkles wrong at the park a lady bit my head off. Tinkles is a boy, alright chill.
Food subreddits can be some of the salties subs on this site.
People get so worked up over images of food, especially if that food item slightly deviates from their purist interoperation.
Don't believe me? Make an English breakfast, but instead of normal toast use Texas toast. Also leave out the tomatoes. I guarantee you the comment section will be buttery drama.
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In a perfect world, facts would be important to everyone. We do not live in a perfect world. We live in a strange and reactionary place where facts can often be brushed aside as opinion or seen as offensive.
So how the heck are we ever supposed to let anyone know when they're factually incorrect without being seen as major jerks? Honestly, we probably don't. Even the most innocent and well-intentioned fact check has the potential to truly hurt and offend.
Still, reddit user Gallon-O-milk asked a question we all want to know the answer to:
There are some really useful tips and tricks here, we will admit. But we're also not in the business of lying to our readers, so we're going to be honest. If a person is prone to being offended, then no matter how politely or tactfully you say something it's going to happen. They're going to think you're rude. They're going to dislike or dismiss what you say.
Just make sure you're braced for it if it happens. Choose your battles wisely. Prepare to be side-eyed.
Treat them as good-faith actors. They're not trying to be wrong... They believe what they're saying. Ask questions.
"I didn't know that. Can you explain it a bit more?" Then when you have a natural opportunity, say something like "I always thought... "
I Believe You, But...
At work as a foremen we use the phrase "trust, but verify" I believe you but it's my job on the line.
Yup, aircraft maintenance is the same way.
"I trust that's correct, but I need to verify. So if anything goes wrong we've both had eyes on it."
Us vs The Problem
Avoid telling people they are wrong and avoid telling them, "No, ...". People want two things: to feel heard and like they belong. Telling someone they are wrong doesn't accomplish either.
Provide evidence for a counterpoint and let them draw their own conclusions. You aren't trying to tear them down, you're working with them to find a solution to a problem. It just so happens that the evidence you have found supports a different solution than theirs. The minute you view it as me vs them and not us vs the problem you will have already failed.
This Nurse's Method
I once heard a visitor to the hospital where I worked make some outlandish claim, and a nurse simply responded pleasantly "It sounds like you need more information!"
Choose your battles. Fact checks may be okay once a week, but not like twice a day.
Walk away without "convincing" the other person. If you get argumentative, they'll often double down. My sweetest fact checks pay off hours, days, or even weeks later: "You know, I looked that up, and it turns out you were ..."
Just Play Dumb
Say, "Oh, really? I haven't heard that. Where did you read it?"
You disarm them by admitting you weren't aware of something they supposedly are, and ask them for a source. From there it can be easy to figure out if their source is a blog or scientific study, or whatever.
I use this often. Generally Instead of offering an alternative viewpoint or facts of my own I simply keep asking question like I'm genuinely interested and uninformed; anxious to know more. Also if they make a number of false claims it's important to simply ask 1 question at a time. That essentially forces them to fact-check themselves and justify their viewpoint without giving them any options in terms of which questions of yours to answer.
Most of the time they'll at least come away with the realization that they don't know all the details or that their sources are sketchy, and hopefully will ask more questions themselves next time they're confronted with bad information. Which is a win in my book. And hey, if it turns out that I'm the one who's actually wrong, I also didn't go around making incorrect claims through this process.
The biggest draw-back to this strategy though is that this doesn't usually work in online discussions with other people trying to "help" you because they inevitably sandbag the process by asking too many questions at once, adding condescending facts of their own, and/or getting frustrated and aggravating the person you're trying to debate, at which point, everybody loses.
Missing Some Information
I had a student swear that her mom was a doctor and she became one because she knew somebody. I could NOT let her drop that and have other students believe that shit. I stated that there isn't a doctor in this country that hasn't gone to college and medical school. She insisted. After a couple of back and forths, I just finished it with 'I think we're missing some information'. Best line I ever used.
Turns out, her mom was an ultrasound tech for a doctor.
In The Most Polite Way
I was backpacking through Yosemite last week and was just corrected in the most polite way. We were looking out over an amazing view and I thought something was half dome. A nice English fella then said "I'll be honest with you, I don't think that is quite correct."
Realized I was wrong immediately, and then thanked him for correcting me. Really seemed effective, on me anyway.
If I'm openly disagreeing with someone, after a minute I just go, "Duh! We can Google this!" It adds humor to the situation and implies either could be right.
Knowing When It's Important
Not always possible. Some people are offended by facts and data, and that's not an exaggeration. The real trick is knowing when it's important to fact-check and when it's not.
If my parents assert that only citrus fruits produce citric acid, I'm just going to nod my head
If my parents start telling me crime is through the roof and it's all black people's fault, I'm going to wiki empirical data to prove them wrong.
If they want to be mad at me for not taking their word at face value, even after they've been shown contradictory data from a reputable source, that's their prerogative. I've done nothing wrong.
It's on me at that point to recognize and stand by my personal values. I can't force immature people (even if they're my senior age-wise) to not "feel offended" for being presented a fact.
If you find yourself getting into debates with people who are like that, you should probably just tell them that if they're going to be offended by fact-checking that either they should check the facts themselves (then they can "offend" themselves so you don't have to) and then report them to you... OR they should accept your rebuttal without arguing because they're aware you're willing to look into the facts but you are also willing to refrain out of consideration for their (illogical) emotions, so long as they don't assert correctitude without proof.
Anyone who insists they're right but refuses to look at evidence is forcing you into an emotional battle in which you're tasked with overcoming their poorly-conceived yet deeply-held personal opinions, rather than an objective discussion using logic and reasoning to determine the truth. They have already made themselves "the jerk" at that point, even if people in their tribe feel similarly.