Things That Seem Normal For Americans But Weird To The Rest Of The World
Americans, we sure are an eclectic bunch.
We don't realize just how eclectic until we're outside of the country looking in.
Some of our traditions, several of our rules and TONS of our laws are kinda all over the place.
That's why people love to visit from all over.
Who doesn't want to see the zoo animals from inside the cage?
Redditor Specialist-Anybody3 wanted to discuss the aspects of life Americans found ordinary that others don't. So they broached the question:
"What things are normal for Americans but weird for non-Americans?"
We Americans have some funny ways to live.
And everybody notices.
Privacy First
toilet creeping GIFGiphy"Large gaps above, below and between the bathroom stalls..."
KimPTM
"Holy Jesus this! So nice to poop in private in Europe. I have no idea why the US does this!"
hhgfryhjkoo
Travel Tips
"If you drive for five hours in the United States, you’re pretty much still in the same place. If you drive for five hours in Europe, everyone’s talking funny and the cheese is different."
KaimeiJay
"In the US, 100 miles is nothing, 100 years is a lot. In Europe, 100 miles is a lot, 100 years is nothing."
"The stone retaining wall for the front of our property (here in Germany) is dated 1846, and it's nothing special. Many of the houses in the old part of our small town are 1300 and older."
insainodwayno
Dates...
"Writing the date format as mm-dd-yyyy instead of dd-mm-yyyy."
silkybow-
"This actually worked to my advantage. I’m a Brit and moved to the US when I was 20. I’m not a big drinker but was still mad I couldn’t get a beer. Then I realized that my DOB on my driving license would be read backwards making it appear I was a few months older and therefore 21. It never got turned down and I used it a lot."
UncleKodeia
"I work 911 dispatch. We have to write it at work as yyyy-mm-dd. Don't know why, but we do."
TheUnconfirmedk1ll
Mental Gymnastics
"Having to mentally add sales taxes on everything you buy. In Europe 9.95 means paying 9.95."
AaronBenne
"I thought we had this problem in Canada but I didn't realize just how much worse it was in the US until I moved here. In Canada, we have a VAT based tax so in Ontario, you just add 13% to the price to find the final price. Annoying, but not complicated."
"In the US, your sales tax changes based on your location increments smaller than a zip code because tax jurisdictions and zip codes were made separately. You have to basically use the exact address to figure out what tax jurisdiction you're actually in. It's practically impossible to know what actual tax you're gonna have to pay unless you've shopped there before or look it up."
BuccellatiExplainsIt
Nonsense
cbs wow GIF by Big BrotherGiphy"The fact that an 18 year old can drive and buy a gun while still being considered too young to drink alcohol."
Monika396
Some "rules" make no sense to many of us.
Years and Years
back to school college GIF by Rodney DangerfieldGiphy"Paying for college for 30 years after you graduated."
pingerlol
"That happens in England now, as well."
"But agree, for most developed countries, the idea of having an educated population is seen as a good thing that benefits everyone and should be affordable."
dannydevon
Attachments
"Attaching medical insurance to employment. One shouldn’t have anything to do with the other."
jimjamjimmerson
"Also, having a co-pay when you are covered, and a limit on what is paid. So, people are discouraged from seeking treatment early and for preventative care and can get financially ruined despite having coverage. It is a disgrace."
NameOfUserOfReddit
"I know, I've always thought that was odd. That is one thing I will never understand, America's healthcare system. How can your job be linked with your healthcare?"
BabySham8
Control
"HOAs like wtf. No other people who don't pay your mortgage telling you how to maintain your home."
throw_away_17381
"I've always thought this was the dumbest s**t. It's usually the fancier neighborhoods too. If I ever strike it rich, I'm buying a plot of land in the middle of nowhere and doing whatever the hell I want with my house. What's the point in having all that money and a house of your own if you decide to move somewhere where your property isn't under your control?"
Notthesharkfromjaws
'Hey, you need surgery'
"Seeing a possible serious medical problem with yourself and going 'ehh.'"
xx_Fiddler_xx
"I straight twisted a testicle. Since I didn't know this was possible, and I grew up on a farm so apparently my pain tolerance is pretty high, I thought it was no big deal."
"11 hours later is when I finally got off work and decided to go to urgent care."
"A total of 16 hours before I went in for surgery. I haven't gotten all the bills yet, but the one I did get has a doctor charging me $500 just to tell me I needed surgery. Not for the ultrasounds, or the surgery itself, or the follow-ups. Just to tell me 'hey, you need surgery.'"
"The worst part is, this is after the bill was run through 2 insurance programs."
StrayAI
Security
the mystery files of shelby woo nicksplat GIFGiphy"My friend attended his cousin's high school graduation in LA a while ago and he had to go through metal detectors and all that, as if he was going through airport security. So I guess metal detectors at school."
yeetgodmcnechass
We Americans are an interesting people.
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People Break Down What Behavior The Average Person Thinks Is Illegal But Actually Isn't
Did you know that there are many people out there who believe that driving barefoot is illegal?
That's just a rumor, by the way, and it likely started because many states have a law saying you must be wearing unobstructing footwear that won’t get in the way of operating the pedals.
The more you know!
Also, can you imagine being arrested for going barefoot? Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?
People shared more with us after Redditor MoneyBonus8979 asked the online community:
"What is something the average person thinks is illegal that actually isn’t?"
"Counting cards..."
"Counting cards at a casino black jack table."
wootpro
It's just a strategy, nothing illegal about that. If casinos catch you, they can bar you from coming back, but you cannot be arrested.
"Cops lying to you..."
"Cops lying to you. (U.S.) They don't have to tell you they're a cop. They can say literally anything to extract information."
[deleted]
Especially during interrogations. Anything to get you to incriminate yourself. Always request a lawyer and don't say anything else.
"Doesn't mean..."
"Giving cops the middle finger. It's protected under freedom of speech. Doesn't mean it's smart to do and they won't find some reason to make your day hell. But it's legal."
leapdayjose
Profanity is indeed generally protected per the First Amendment. Though yes, you might want to be mindful.
"Piracy if you download..."
"Piracy, if you download in most countries. It's illegal to distribute pirated material but not to download it, mostly because the laws are a decade or two behind."
"Here in Canada, for instance, a copyright owner can send a warning notification to the internet provider and they're legally obligated to pass it on, but they have no obligation to punish you for it. I don't think any major providers here ban people, it doesn't affect them and you're still paying them."
nickdude96
You wouldn't download a car, would you?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
"It's completely legal..."
"It’s completely legal for a woman to be topless in public in New York City, and I believe total nudity in public is legal in Washington or Oregon or possibly both."
Jon_Snuh
Meanwhile, I know in Seattle they have this spring time thing where a lot of people ride bicycles naked like a big naked parade of bike riders.
"In my state..."
"In my state, turning left on a red light when you’re on a one-way and turning onto another one-way. Nobody knows, nobody goes, and it drives me bonkers."
TrustYourTingle
You see, this is why I just wouldn't want to get behind the wheel anytime soon.
"Discussing wages..."
"Discussing wages with your fellow employees."
[deleted]
Not only is it legal, your right to do so is protected by the National Labor Relations Act of 1935. It’s actually illegal to tell your employees not to talk about wages with each other.
"Driving with..."
"Driving with the interior light on in the car."
megagirlyguapapol
If you're a dad driving, its both illegal and a death sentence.
"Tax avoidance."
"Tax avoidance. Perfectly legal. Tax evasion is a completely different story."
aceh40
Many people don't understand the difference, while at the same time engage in tax avoidance every year with their 401k plans, IRA investments, Healthcare Savings Accounts, Commuter Benefits, Flexible Spending Accounts, Mortgage interest deduction, etc.
"In Canada..."
"In Canada, women can be shirtless wherever men can though women still get arrested for this."
RevolutionaryRoad19
Most of the USA, too. As long as you’re just going about your business and not “attempting to arouse prurient interest” or words to that effect you’re legally–LEGALLY–fine.
Surprised by any of these? Feel liberated, maybe? They say you don't know what you don't know... and now you know. So get out there and let your freak flag fly (or not).
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Americans Divulge How They Feel About European Attitudes About U.S. Gun Laws
The American public has seemingly appeared to grow weary over the frequency of mass shootings around the country making news headlines.
The obligatory thoughts and prayers response in the wake of a gun-related tragedy has almost become laughable as there is hardly any substantial progress in spite of numerous petitions and protests lobbying for stricter gun legislation.
It's not surprising then that outsiders have such strong views toward gun violence and gun laws in America.
Curious to hear from strangers online, Redditor spiderbabyinapram asked:
"Americans of Reddit, an honest question, asked sincerely: what are your thoughts on how so many Europeans view your gun laws as strange or dangerous?"
These Redditors didn't seem to care what Europeans thought.
The Whole Point
"I always think that the whole point of the USA is to not be Europe. From it's inception to now."
– raymondspogo
Nonplussed
"I would imagine most Americans aren’t thinking about the opinions of others. We’re a very individualistic culture."
– AntarcticaCoffee
Not Bothered
"I don’t take it seriously. Most Europeans I’ve spoken to on the issue have a very oversimplified view of the gun issue in America."
– alcoholicmuppet
A Pro-Gun View
"I don’t mind reading your take on our laws, but I ultimately don’t care. Your views don’t shape our laws, so they’re not that important to me."
"Now JimBob across the street that believes it’s his right to mount a .50 cal machine gun in the bed of his truck…his views are important to me. Not that I agree with him but because he worries me."
"I’m pro gun at the end of the day, but we’re handling gun ownership terribly. I don’t fault the anti-gun crowd because most gun owners shouldn’t own one in the first place."
– GooberAndMe
How Do You Really Feel?
"We really don’t give a sh*t what Europeans think."
– WilliePhistergash
A Counter On Caring
"Most of the Americans posting say they don't care how others feel about their gun laws which is understandable, land of the free and all."
"However, you should care how others perceive you in the world, we all used to look up to America and rely on American leadership on global issues. You put a man on the moon!"
"I'd say U.S. credibility and prestige on the world stage is at all time lows. And yes the gun issue is relevant."
– tremp2020
These Redditors believe Europeans make too many assumptions about the U.S.
We Need Guns
"There is still a legitimate need and use for guns in rural America that city dwellers often just completely don't know about or understand."
– SomeYoungOldDude
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"I'm mostly amused by the European views, at least those expressed commonly on reddit, about American gun culture. The reality of life in America doesn't really match the headlines blasted out regularly from our mainstream news organizations."
"Europeans who haven't spent much time in the US, can only judge us from what they get from our news outlets. As with most news outlets around the world, journalists now see themselves as agents of change more than neutral reporters of facts and events."
– thehorsesayscoo
Conflicting Views
"Pretty much European views on everything about America. At least on Reddit."
"They start with the assumption that their way is better and then come to the simplest conclusion as to why that is."
"The Brits will tell you Americans are cruel for keeping their cats indoors. The Germans will tell you Americans are cheap for building things out of lumber. Even things like the law that requires us to stop for children exiting school buses is somehow evidence that American children are stupid."
– SecurelyObscure
The Differences
"Do we need some better laws, yes. Do we actually need guns? In many places.. also yes."
"We have animals on a level that y’all can’t even dream of. A pack of coyotes live right next to my parents. Panthers, cougars, bears, alligators, and more."
"For us calling police (or ambulance) is at least a 20-30min wait, some places more than that."
– East-Selection1144
They Just Don't Understand
"I just don't think some Europeans have a very nuanced understanding of things, and talk as though all we do everyday is obsess about our guns. Taking a contentious issue to justify a stereotype is just stupid."
– treuchetfight
The Constitution Gets Quoted
"In my sincere and honest opinion, I think Europeans define liberty and freedom differently than Americans do. America as a nation was birthed out of standing up to tyranny. The ability to bear arms was granted to the citizens of the United States because the founding fathers were against tyranny."
"The Constitution of the U.S.A. says this: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.--That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.'"
"The key line there in my opinion is: 'deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.' Governments should receive their power from the consent of the governed. Furthermore, the follow up line says that it is the right of the people to alter or abolish the tyrannical government and institute a new one."
"Americans have guns to ensure that the government doesn't overstep it's bounds. If a government starts waging war on it's people, how would they fight back?"
"I like being an American, and I like having the freedom to have many guns."
– Minimalcharges
People weighed in on school shootings.
Breaking Down A Percentage
"Seriously overestimating how much of the issue has to do specifically with school shootings (they account for less than 1% of homicides). Assuming that gun violence is primarily homicide (nearly 2/3 of gun deaths are suicide)."
"Assuming that all states have the same gun laws. Proposing 'solution' like door to door police confiscation without realizing that it’s both illegal and wildly impractical."
– alcoholicmuppet
Bullying
"Nobody is going to defend school shootings but it is actually important to attribute blame where blame is deserved. I am referring specifically to three things, first is the Media and their portrayal of school shootings. The hype behind shootings literally gives kids the idea and reenforces that idea as a viable option to those looking to do bad things."
"The media is actually responsible for most of the shootings in this country and should be held accountable. Next is bullying. Kids will be kids to some extent, but American culture is so messed up that parents literally aren't raising their kids with any dignity or respect."
"Bullying is a real problem and a-hole kids tend to have neglectful parents. Finally, mental health issues should not be understated. Whether it's a manifestation of being bullied for life, or actual bouts of psychosis, both are mental health issues that are not well addressed in anyone, particularly kids under 18."
"Point is, accessibility to guns definitely doesn't help the issue, but it's not the root cause. American politicians are trying to do the only thing they know how to do; treat the symptoms not the cause. Ultimately we need to fix our damn culture, stop sensationalizing mass shootings, and invest in education and mental health awareness/accessibility to help."
"If we remove guns, it will just be something else used as a weapon like driving cars into groups of people, swords, bombs, chemicals, or whatever. Personally, I want a gun for my own protection..I am for tighter regulations but not for getting rid of weapons altogether."
– ActionXPotential
My European friends didn't have to be U.S. residents to know and be critical of lax gun laws here.
As for my Japanese relatives who've never been to visit me in the U.S., they also have some strong opinions.
When I asked one of my cousins why he's never come for a visit, the first thing he said was, "I'm honestly terrified of American gun violence in your country."
I couldn't agree more, especially knowing that Japan has a very low crime rate. And what he's seen in the media, is not an exaggeration.
We've sadly just become numb to the news headlines.
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Laws are not always ethical, are they?
While most are implemented to keep the peace and prevent people from stealing from one another, there are many which feel wrong. Whether it's who they're hurting or what they're preventing, there's something morally incoherent about their alignment.
Some of us just want to play classic video games, okay?
Reddit user bleachspot wanted to know:
"What is something that is illegal but isn't wrong ethically?"
You have to pay for everything.
That's the truth of the world, right?
There's no other way to get around this.
Oh yeah. The internet.
Paying For Science Is Tough, Apparently
"Downloading scientific papers from Sci-hub."
Tropical_Geek1
"Paying to access scientific knowledge in general"
swan_tanya
"In order to explain science publishing, I always describe it as a system so awful, their version of The Pirate Bay won industry awards."
"I always wonder a little about people who like to pipe up with "just write to the authors; they're usually happy to shrae their work for free!" like we're living 40+ years ago. Maybe I'm denying the authors their share of warm fuzzies, but I'm not gonna bother writing the authors. I can download the paper and be onto the methodology section before I could even finish phrasing my email: "Hi there, long time listener first time caller. Love your work. If you don't mind, could you spare a few minutes to email me a copy? I need it for an argument on reddit. Thanks in advance."
Suspicious-Muscle-96
Ever Try To Buy A Game From More Than A Few Years Ago?
"Downloading Roms of old games. We all know you don't own any of those games, but if companies aren't willing to rerelease them then it should be good to download roms online."
SuccessDisastrous625
"Yep, my general rules of thumb are;"
"If I already owned the game at some point in the past, I'm not going to feel guilty about emulating it however many years later unless it's still readily available."
"My other is if the product is not supported in any modern way, with no easy way to obtain it legitimately then I'm not gonna feel bad either."
"If it's readily available/I've never owned it, I pay."
Homo-Homie
Just One Word Missing And You've Failed The Class
"Downloading college ebooks instead of spending $400 dollars on the latest version which all they did was change the spelling of a few words, and called v87.12458281648391846 of the book, and require it for your college class, even though they only use a single paragraph from chapter 13 which is a quote from a $5 book they offer in most bookstores. And then fail you from the class if you have v87.12458281648391845 instead."
Knightraiderdewd
If laws are supposed to be protecting people, then how do you explain these?
An Annoying Way To Make Money
"Paying for someone else’s parking meter"
PunMatster
"In Keene new Hampshire there was a group called the "robinhooders of keene". They would follow around the meter maid and put quarters in the meters so they couldn't write tickets. Most of the revenue comes from the tickets, not the meters. The city tried to sue but they were unsuccessful. Some unknown benefactor paid the robinhooders to do it. It was part of the libertarian "free state project"
FightForDemocracyNow
You Can't Just Live Anywhere
"Living off the grid without a permit"
RevDLB
"It's hilarious in most places in the USA theres a rule where you cannot camp on YOUR OWN LAND for more than 2 weeks at a time."
"Nobody is going to give a f-ck if you do but still, the rule is there."
"You need a long term camping permit to do so."
"Literally you have to pay to live anywhere in this dumb country haha"
ScrotusMahotus
You Seriously Can't Live Anywhere
Loitering in a park. I've always wondered why this is illegal in some places. The point of a park is to loiter
[usernamedeleted]
"Because homelessness."
thefreakyorange
"It's not illegal to not have a home, but you better believe there are dozens of laws that are directed at, or primarily affect the homeless."
Creeps_On_The_Earth
Sometimes it feels like laws are protecting the wrong people, isn't it?
No Charity
"taking food from dumpsters"
thingstooverthink
"My sister used to work at a Starbucks kiosk in a grocery store. At the end of the day she was supposed to throw away the pastries that were in single use plastic wrappers and she’d write them off as disposed of and such but she’d take them home cause we were struggling financially and was trying to provide a little extra help to her family. It was her first job and was still a teen and naive to the trouble she could get into."
"One day they accused her of stealing and showed the tapes of her taking them home and ended up escorting her out with security and put her on probation and just went the full 9 yards over it. She came home traumatized and sobbing. Corporate is the most inhumane system we’ve ever made yet it’s the one with the most power over us. It’s despicable."
Imagimoor1
You Can't Grow Your Own Wheat?
"Using your own wheat grown on your own fields to feed your family bread when Congress says you can't because the wheat was grown on an acre of your land Congress designated as not for wheat."
"Google Wickard v Filburn for those of you saying this is a made-up scenario. The Supreme court decided that while this farmer was not influential on the economy alone, if many farmers did the same as him in the aggregate, they would cause harm to interstate commerce, which placed his actions under Congressional regulatory authority."
"If you are into US constitutional law at all, this is a very important case to know. Even as conservatives introduced their own spin on commerce later, the foundation and most important bits of Wickard are still there and affect you every single day."
captchasaysimhuman
In Case You Were Wondering...
"You can not own more then 75 salamanders in the state of Illinois, how tf am I gonna start salamander trafficking now. F-ck Illinois"
HalfEasy
Life is complicated enough without worrying about what's right or wrong.
Just don't hurt anybody.
Simple enough credo to follow.
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Sometimes, for a good laugh, I like to take a peek at different laws that are on our books. I also love to look at the laws that were in effect before.
I kid you not, these ideas can read like an Onion article. There are laws out there that people could go to jail for that would baffle your mind.
And clearly the lawmakers who wrote them lost their minds. I wish I had the time to trace the origins of all of them.
For instance... In Arkansas, you can't honk your horn near a sandwich shop after 9 p.m.
Why you ask? So you don't disturb the peace.
Who knew hoagie stores needed such tranquility.
Redditor iwanttheworldnow wanted to compare notes on what progress needs to happen in our legal system, they asked:
"What's a law that should not be a law?"
Just in case you didn't know...
In Delaware, it's illegal to whisper in church.
I'd hate to see someone doing time for not paying attention to the Lord's prayer.
Hush up!
Grandma's Got It
"In the Delaware state constitution, there is an entire section on how to legally run a bingo game. Like bro, just let the grandma's bingo in peace!" ~ Zelphadiem
GiphySeized
"Civil Asset Forfeiture. Law enforcement can seize money or property on suspicion of it being connected to criminal activity. It's then your responsibility to prove that it's not illegal, which requires paying a lawyer, going to court, etc. which can many times cost more than the seized property." ~ Roguewind
Power
"In my state, our public service commission approved an additional fee on power bills for homeowners who install solar panels. Not necessarily a 'law' but still shouldn't exist." ~ NauvooMetro
"In some states in the US, the power company pays way less per kwh you send them than you pay when they send you. It's a racket."
"In other states, you get 1-to-1 power credits each month. So if you send 10 more kwh to the power company than you use in January you get 10 kwh credits and if you use 3 more than you generate in February they take 3 off your credits and you have 7 kwh. BUT, every April or May they wipe out whatever positive credits you have and just take all that additional energy for free." ~ KronktheKronk
Makes no sense...
"Because people keep asking if I live in various US states. I live in Ireland for the record. It's a minor one but here it's illegal for stores to sell alcohol after 10pm. I finish work at 10 so if I want to have a few beers at home after work I can't unless I've bought them in advance. Yet I can finish work and go straight to a pub and drink until closing time. Makes no sense." ~ Walter-the-Wobot
Smile Ladies
"Still technically a law - in Vermont, women needing false teeth must first get permission from their husbands to do so." ~ AcrylicKateQuinn
GiphyI could get onboard with this one...
Did you know, in Alabama, stink bombs are outlawed?
I hate them.
But I don't believe you should be given a cellmate for a little gas.
Free Willy
"In Tennessee, where I live, it's illegal to shoot a whale from a moving vehicle. We're a landlocked state." ~ aven1991
"The Tennessee River can get real freakin' rowdy sometimes." ~ Superdude4o
GiphyPumped
"Not being able to pump your own gas in Oregon. Drove through there once and the gas attendant came running from inside the store. He was like 'I am not getting a $5,000 fine again.' Then proceeded to pump it for me. Poor guy had to pump all the cars, and still attend the market inside the gas station by himself. This was in Eugene, Oregon to be exact." ~ genieofthelamp7
Don't Horse Around
"In South Carolina, when approaching a blind intersection in a motor vehicle you must discharge a firearm three times into the air to warn horse traffic. Not enforced, but technically still a law on the books." ~ ImReverse_GiraffeI
"I feel like you're 100x more likely to be arrested for complying with this law than you would be for breaking it. But then again I've never set foot in South Carolina nor do I know anything about the state so for all I know it could be a common occurrence there." ~ brett96
A Kill-Tax?
"In many states, if you are killed at your place of employment, even due to gross or literally criminal negligence on the companies behalf, your family can not take your employer to court for wrongful death. The workman's comp gets paid out and that's the end of it. Effectively making it a kill-tax." ~ Burdicus
Sassy ladies
"There are still municipalities in the U.S. that have criminalized more than a certain threshold of adult women from living together without any adult men, because obviously the only thing they could be doing together is running a brothel. Not sure how many of them are enforced by the actual local law enforcement, but there's universities that don't allow sorority houses for this reason." ~ hypo-osmotic
From Heaven
"Some states don't allow you to collect rainwater." ~ akrmalhakimi
"Can confirm. I'm from Washington state." ~ ThrowAwayGarbage82
GiphyWe really need some serious editing to what's on the legal books.
This all reads like a parody of law.
And real quick, I'd hate to see anyone lose freedom over dinner.
Did you hear..
In Georgia, it's forbidden to eat fried chicken with a knife and fork.
The more you know.
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