I'm still on the fence about this whole extraterrestrial situation. I need more proof. Now I'm not naive enough to think that in this vast, endless universe only the human race exists. I just need proof, tangible, solid, didn't see it from my trailer through beer goggles proof.
I also need proof about the afterlife, another out there topic. Truth be told, I've never been that into this whole conversation. I've got enough daily problems on this planet, let alone worrying about making Will Smith's biggest hits into documentaries and not just popcorn/comedy space farce.
But let's compare thoughts...
Redditoru/ValencikHannibal197wanted to discuss life beyond this planet, what do we really think? They asked:
What's the best theory on UFOs or aliens you've ever heard??
I definitely wouldn't turn down an excursion to AREA 51. I'd like to poke around and get a sense of the place. I've never personally been up close and face to face with a "non-Earther." Not sure I'd like to be...
TV Truth
x files monkey pee GIF by The X-FilesGiphy"UFOs/Aliens are a cover for all of the secret projects that the government is working on. Actually stole that from the X files."
Birth
"How human birth parallels alien abductions:
- Babies are taken from their home (womb)
- They still developing sight, so they see bright lights and grey figures.
- They hear an "alien" language they don't understand.
- They suddenly feel cold after leaving their womb.
- They are in a surgery room being poked with tons of instruments.
Long story short: some people suggest that abductions are just people who had memories of their birth."
In the Mind
"I just don't think anyone will ever see this. But I think that UFO's are the projection of our unconscious collective mind. Everything that exists in reality, also exists, in our immaterial mind. Is it possible that the insides of our mind are also just one drop in the ocean of consciousness... and together we create the material reality were in, simply by experiencing it in a real way, inside-out through our senses."
Flyover...
"My father was an aircraft mechanic and fabricator for test and spy aircraft for the USAF. He spent 75-85 working with test aircraft. He said that when they were going to do a test, that could possibly be seen by the public, they would make a betting pool on how many UFO reports local authorities and flight towers received."
Under the Sea
sci-fi ufo GIFGiphy"I like the idea that some UFOs aren't machines. Instead they are some sort of Upper-Atmosphere Jellyfish. I found the issue of Fortean Times that had this article. Here's the cover: https://ft.gjovaag.com/q/images/a/ae/FT291.jpg"
- BigD1970
Interesting. There are some ideas we can look into. None of it proof, but possibilities. There are certainly plenty of future film ideas.
Like 2012...
"We are like that un contacted tribe and everyone agrees not to bother us."
"I've heard it explained from a channel (idk if you know what channeling is) kinda like this. First of all, we as a species tend to freak out, shoot first and ask questions later. Most humans would have a literal psychotic break. You have to believe in vibrational energy as it relates to our consciousness."
"The aliens (certain ones) are at such a higher level that it would be jarring for us to come in close contact with. We are slowly getting there but it's a process. Like 2012, end of the Mayan calendar, wasn't the end of the world it was the end of an energy cycle that we as the human race had never made it past before."
"Previous civilizations have been destroyed or destroyed themselves before they got this far. We passed a point where we are very unlike to destroy ourselves anymore. This doesn't mean we won't see some real bad hardships yet but we will keep progressing."
- falecf4
"train your eyes"
Dancing GIFGiphy"I was a firm believer in t em when I was in high school and kept googling theories and info in my spare time and during my study halls. They said their bodies were so lightweight or something that the reason why you can't see the evidence is that they disintegrate before hitting the ground."
"And then LOL it was so funny, some people would swear you could "train your eyes" to see rods... HhhahAHAHAHA. Like there were these experts. Video showed him walking around with a serious face, then pointing. And he's like, "that was one just there." "You can't see them, you have to be used to them... like me."
"I've spent many years immersed into hunting them finding them. That's why I can see them." And then one day China, who loves occult stuff, had like a lab that set up a nighttime camera to capture footage of rods at night... then realized they were normal bugs at overexposure. lol"
Lurking
"The Dark Forest theory. Basically the theory that the reason we haven't made contact is because all the other civilized life in the universe/galaxy knows not to broadcast their location. They've learned that there's something awful or predatory lurking in the dark forest of our galaxy, and that it's better if they keep to themselves."
Unknowns...
"That the universe is so vast that we haven't been discovered yet."
- neoastic
"This makes sense to me because traversing the distance to or from even our our stellar neighbors would require technology that is not known to us now or likely to be known by us anytime soon if it's even possible at all. To assume without evidence that aliens could possess this technology and have visited us does not meet my skeptical standards."
- KZED73
Back and Forth
back to the future great scott GIFGiphy"Time travel exists, and UFO sightings are actually future humans coming back to our time. That is why they are so discreet, and never openly make contact."
I hope time travel exists. Now that I'm onboard for. If aliens do exist... just come on out guys. We could probably use your help.
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UFO Enthusiasts Break Down The Most Significant Pieces Of Evidence That Support Extraterrestrial Life
They ARE out there!
One of life's eternal questions and wonders revolves around proving that life exists outside of Earth and the human race. Have we truly shown that there are aliens out there or even among us? Some people swear they have the solid proof. Many people believe that we've all been witness to actual phenomenons that are irrefutable hard evidence. Of course it has long been believed the government is housing all the answers in a bunker in the desert. I'm not sure myself, but... I believe Will Smith knows.
Redditor u/theEthan420 wanted to finally find the proof we have long been waiting for about those that live above us, they asked.... [Serious] UFO enthusiasts of Reddit, what is the most significant piece of evidence supporting extra terrestrial life?Fly High
David Fravor and the tick-tac video from the fighter jets was pretty convincing.
Came here to say the Tic Tac. It's some freaking crazy crap happening right there. What's even crazier is that the Pentagon said that it's legit.
The Phenomenon
The last 15 minutes of The Phenomenon documentary by James Fox. Dozens of children at a school in rural Zimbabwe had a close encounter with a UFO and an extraterrestrial being that (by their account) used some sort of strange telepathy to plant ideas in their head. I was extremely skeptical before this documentary, but this specific incident gave me the chills. Every single one of those kids had the exact same story just seconds after it happened and drew almost identical pictures of what they saw.
In the documentary there is video of the children soon after, and video of them discussing it now almost 30 years later. They all seem so genuine, their stories are exactly the same down to every last detail, and they all still seem shaken by what happened to them.
When in Utah
I'm sure lots of people here will say the same thing, but I've seen a UFO and not just some little lights spinning around in the distance that could've been a couple well piloted drones either. My dad, brother, and I were camping in Utah laying on our sleeping bags under the brilliant starry sky when we noticed an octagonal patch of sky that was an ever so slightly different shade of black that was slowly moving across the sky.
It was moving so slowly that it very well could've actually have been the stars that were moving behind it, but every time it covered some stars they would appear on it's underside. We just sat there watching it for a couple hours until it disappeared behind some trees.
This was before cellphone cameras and I was probably only 9-10 anyway. Strangely my dad told us that he had seen the same thing while he was camping in Big Bear in the 80s. A few years later the movie Chicken Little came out and I had to wonder whether the concept artist for their UFOs had seen the same thing.
3 Lights...
comedy aliens GIF by People of Earth TBSGiphyI saw something in Warner Robins, GA. I was stationed there as a radar guy and saw it late 2012 to early 2013 time frame. 3 blinking lights as you said spinning slowly and drifting down the street. I replied to the main guy with the whole story, but you are not alone my friend. I wasn't a believer in UFO's before, but now I am. If it is not aliens... I fall back on the argument that I remember from Gordon Cooper. As a professional pilot, seeing the things that the UFO aircraft he saw was able to do in the 50s... in his opinion, there was no way that was our technology.
On Camera
A military jet crash was witnessed by a bunch of adults and children at a little-league baseball game. I watched the raw video feed from the TV camera crew that interviewed witnesses. They were all standing in line, waiting to be interviewed. One of the first people said something about seeing a flame (which was almost certainly the ejection seat firing), and the interviewer ceased on that and asked subsequent witnesses about it, building on the fire narrative. By the end, all the witnesses agreed that the airplane had exploded and gone down in a ball of flame. They all remembered that. It turned out that the jet crashed because it ran out of fuel. There was no explosion and no fire.
Starlink...
It was December 21st and my dad and I were looking up in the sky for the Great Conjunction. I often look at the night sky a lot, especially since where I live now doesn't have a lot of light pollution. I would say I have a pretty good understanding of where different stars and planets are in the night sky. I was looking Westward and I saw a object with a glow moving in a somewhat fast pace across the sky. I thought it was a Starlink satellite but I checked and it couldn't be a Starlink satellite because it was in the wrong location.
It's movements were too fast to be a satellite and it's location was too high in the sky to be a plane. It's behavior became more unusual when it moved laterally to the left, at an even faster pace. Not too sure what it was but multiple other people in my area saw it and my father now believes in aliens too. I never saw anything move like that before, definitely something strange.
The Vanished....
I remember sitting with my friends in a car eating in-n-out when we saw one. It was a 3 orange lights in the form of a horizontal triangle over the building. They moved slowly, but not slowly enough to be planes. Besides they all moved like they were connected to each other. Then the three lights broke off into little smaller lights and then just... vanished.
We all saw it so I know I wasn't hallucinating. Years later I saw someone talking about the triangle lights here on Reddit. He even had a bunch of other people chiming in saying they'd seen it too. I looked up the pictures for it and sure enough it was exactly what I'd seen.
Space is Hard
mac and me aliens GIFGiphyIt would be more weird if earth was the only planet in the universe that had intelligent life.
The problem is, unless we learn something radically new about physics, we will not be making it to another star for tens of thousands of years. Space travel is hard. If earth was slightly bigger, we would not be able to leave our atmosphere. Aliens would have the same problems because physics is the same everywhere.
The Skeptics....
Skeptics of alien life like to use the logic of "The odds of other life existing is one in one trillion." Even if that were the correct odds, that would still mean thousands of planets are out there with life. Maybe not intelligent life but just some type of life in general.
If even microbes exist on other planets then the odds of intelligent life elsewhere is increased substantially. Probability can be a complain but when you're working with an estimated 700 quintillion planets in the universe, low sounding probability becomes much more probable.
Paperwork
will smith mib GIFGiphyAll the recently released documents from the government that confirm UFO sightings.
"Habitable Zone"
So I 100% believe that extra terrestrial life exists, but am skeptical as to whether or not they have visited Earth.
My main reason for believing they exist: it is statistically impossible (with the size and makeup of the universe) that our planet is the only one to develop life.
We know of multiple other planets that are in the "Habitable Zone" in other solar systems, but that's only for OUR habitat.
Life on other planets could have developed in ways we couldn't even imagine. I mean, even on our own planet has life in the deepest parts of the ocean, darkest caves, and even in volcanic vents. So yes, I am positive (despite lack of actual proof) that life, in some form or another, exists on other planets.
The Main Reasons
The ones that are most convincing to me are:
- Westall school sighting
- Zimbabwe school sighting
- Bob Lazar
- Commander David Fraver (Tic Tac). BadPallet
"THEY" know...
Always Sunny Fx GIFGiphyThe videos. The Pentagon admitted the FLIR footage of tic-tacs is real. Don't need much more than that, the frigging Pentagon straight up admitted it, what else do you need?
Typos...
My hubbies grandmother believed in UFO's wholeheartedly for most of her life. When asked she would point to religious texts as aliens having visited us. As she got closer to the end she became really religious and stopped believing in aliens as it was against her religion.
She had been an agnostic most of her life.
Boo!
scary movie halloween GIFGiphyI don't 100% believe in UFO's but on Halloween of 2018 I looked up, and right as I looked up a shooting star appeared, but it stopped mid air for a sec doing that 4 pointed star shine thing, then rocketing back to who knows were, so that's a thing.
follow the #s...
Math, and the odds of the earth bearing the only lifeforms in an endless universe pretty much does it for me. But has anyone got to us yet? That I do not know. I also don't know what's on the other side of the edge of the universe but I can assure you there is.
The Enthusiast...
As a former UFO enthusiast, I'd like to point out that everyone saying something like "life exists in the universe, therefore life must exist elsewhere" are correct, but the distance between extra terrestrial life existing (an almost certainty) and the presence of extra terrestrial visitors on Earth (a near impossibility) is vast.
In a world of camera ubiquity, if we were being visited by alien spacecraft, we'd have photos and video by now.
Odds are...
Statistical probability. We are one planet in one solar system in one galaxy in a universe that contains millions, even billions of galaxies. No one knows how big the universe is.
Faster Than Light
Two facts: the ingredients and conditions for life appear very common, and life started very quickly on earth once it was possible. So you already have to lean on very unlikely scenarios and bet against the evidence, slim as it may be, to conclude that life itself is rare.
Now as to life visiting us, Faster Than Light travel is either possible, or not. If not, life is unlikely to travel the universe or even the galaxy. But robotic probes still make a lot of sense, even with the science we can currently imagine. At least within a galaxy.
Into the Billions
Common sense. There's billions of stars in a galaxy, often hundreds of billions, and there's hundreds of billions of galaxies within the observable universe... and somehow the only intelligent life in existence is a self destructive species who fight over the shape of their planet and the rules set in place to prevent the worsening of a global pandemic? Nah, no way we're alone.
The Space Chief
Haim Eshed the Israeli ex military space chief of 30 years, going public about the Galactic Federation and their meetings with both Israel and America. How they have a base deep under surface of Mars. How they have an agreement with America that they're allowed to take humans for experimentation, but America and Israel have to keep quiet about them as they say were not ready.
But thing is he didn't go public because he's scared for his life, but because he thought the time was right. With all his experience as space chief for 30 years and all he's other work and awards he says he's basically beyond reproach, and no one has tried to discredit him or whitewash what his said.
Life is out there. Do you think they wonder about us? There seems to be just as many "facts" that can also be instantly debunked. So who really knows? It may very well be and stay the greatest mystery of life. And maybe it should. Keep looking up.
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New Report From The New York Times Details Recent Encounters Between U.S. Navy Pilots And UFOs
UFOs don't necessarily mean aliens, as they have been associated with in pop culture, but they definitely do mean something weird is going on.
A recent report by The New York Times highlighted the prevalence of UFO sightings among pilots and explained what the Defense Department has to say about them.
Lt. Ryan Graves, a 10-year navy pilot, witnessed these objects repeatedly during the USS Theodore Roosevelt's 2014-2015 training exercises on the east coast.
He spoke with The Times about his experiences, which he reported to both the Pentagon and to Congress.
"These things would be out there all day. Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we'd expect."
According to The Times,
"experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents."
The new classified guidance put out by the Navy after the Roosevelt sightings on how to report these "unexplained aerial phenomena" would seem to indicate that someone was beginning to take the reports seriously.
Navy spokesperson Joseph Gradisher stated that the new reporting guidance was released after those sightings.
"There were a number of different reports. We don't know who's doing this, we don't have enough data to track this. So the intent of the message to the fleet is to provide updated guidance on reporting procedures for suspected intrusions into our airspace."
Leon Golub, a senior astrophysicist at Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, weighed in on the possible causes of the sightings as well. He didn't completely discount the possibility that the objects were extraterrestrial, but noted that the possibility was highly unlikely.
"There are so many other possibilities — bugs in the code for the imaging and display systems, atmospheric effects and reflections, neurological overload from multiple inputs during high-speed flight."
Another seemingly-likely possibility is that the objects are part of an advanced unmanned drone project, but there are multiple things making this less likely to be the answer.
The objects have been reported to move in ways that don't match the capabilities of our current flight technology: appearing at various altitudes from sea level up to 30,000 feet, rapid acceleration and deceleration, followed by rapid jumps to hypersonic speeds.
Lt. Graves and other squadron members from the Roosevelt were further convinced that these weren't just experimental drones after one of them had a near miss with one of the objects during a flight.
Graves was back on base at Virginia Beach when he ran into a pilot on his way back from a flight. Graves said the man was visibly upset and told him:
"I almost hit one of those things."
Believing that a government-run drone project would be aware of their squadrons maneuvers on the East Coast and would therefore avoid their airspace so as to avoid such possible collisions, the squadron began to discount that possibility.
Some Twitter users offered their own theories.
@NYTScience @therealCJPurdy It's probably the Air Force not telling the Navy what it is doing.— Big City (@Big City) 1559001859.0
@NYTScience @farnazfassihi https://t.co/JzNQzrP4Tm— Ducky Krupnik (@Ducky Krupnik) 1558967196.0
@MicahHanks FWIW I work in software for a living, though not in aerospace or military. There are always bugs in the… https://t.co/XZ46GgmiLa— Mission to Europa (@Mission to Europa) 1558984671.0
Others were just intrigued by the story.
@MicahHanks It is fascinating, no matter what you believe about it.— Sandra L. (@Sandra L.) 1558969965.0
There has been a continuous drip of "possible extraterrestrial activity" stories from the New York Times recently a… https://t.co/wLUTxPYwPG— Ariel Bogle (@Ariel Bogle) 1558913259.0
Of course, there were X-Files references galore.
@NYTScience https://t.co/sahAsuxPgW— gee miz (@gee miz) 1558962656.0
@NYTScience Incredible story. Cue the X Files music and call Scully and Mulder out of retirement. https://t.co/VuShIdtZML— Kith + Kin Magazine (@Kith + Kin Magazine) 1558963472.0
@NYTScience https://t.co/4wXCrftFal— MelT (@MelT) 1558968470.0
Some people shared personal or family stories of UFO sightings.
@NYTScience When my dad was in the Air Force in the 70s, he and another dude were on watch one night at base. They… https://t.co/3btgaJ7GuY— elizabeth ashley (@elizabeth ashley) 1558967717.0
@MicahHanks Saw an object as a child in the 60s which did things of which no aircraft at that time were capable. Bo… https://t.co/mD9m5bLXpU— Karen ❤ (@Karen ❤) 1559000123.0
@MicahHanks Years later, they all got together, one asked if the others had seen it. Turns out they all did. They w… https://t.co/wY8KXfNsEt— Belinda McBride 🌊 (@Belinda McBride 🌊) 1558968204.0
@gettingsome Oh - I found the report - it was 1948 at Hickam AFB, and signed by Colonel Savage (slick name!) #UFO: https://t.co/xj1PR8FR4m— Jennifer Holliday (@Jennifer Holliday) 1558987481.0
After leaving Port at Virginia Beach for the Persian Gulf, the crew says that the sightings became less frequent as they got further from the US.
While nobody is officially claiming to know what these objects are, it seems clear that there is something that pilots are seeing and encountering while in US airspace.
The Defense Department continues to insist there may well be a perfectly reasonable—and terrestrial—explanation for the sightings.
Until that explanation is found, though, there will still be those holding out hope for extraterrestrial contact.