When it comes to sexual harassment, everybody needs to be on the same page.
The focus has predominantly (and rightfully so) been on educating men.
But the men of Reddit wanted to discuss some of their experiences that some people may not realize are harassment.
Redditor Babydolltoes544 asked:
"Men of Reddit, what’s something women don’t realize is sexual harassment?"
First up, let's listen to our Kindergarten teachers and keep our hands to ourselves.
Gloves On
Long Hair GIF by Slingshot DakotaGiphy"As a guy just because I have long hair doesn’t mean you can walk up to me and run your hands through it when I don’t even know you."
TheSilkySpoon76
"Definitely a long hair or curly hair problem. actually why do people think it’s cool to touch your hair, beard, muscles, pregnant belly etc?? personal space everyone!"
ashoka_akira
Leave me Alone
"Some women once tried to take off some of my clothes in a club (without me showing interest in them at all). When I told them to «f**k off» after a while, they got angry at me. Never been so confused."
"Edit: I almost forgot lmao. They talked to one of the guards at the club right after. "
"Don’t know what they said, but as they talked to him, they pointed at me. (Maybe they said that I was the bad guy or something). When I saw that, I just left. I figured the guard would trust the two girls more than me. Club was boring anyways."
UngabaBongDong
Fix the Damage
"I had a drunk young lady rip my button up shirt off in a bar on a dance floor then proceed to cup my d**k. I was mad so told her and her friends to f**k off after I got my shirt back from them, which had all the buttons torn off except the bottom 2. That was super annoying but I was just going to deal with it until I was asked to leave by the bouncers for yelling at women and not buttoning up my shirt."
"Another group of women approached me and said they had the whole thing on video which I then sent to the bars management and got a $200 gift certificate for it. In hindsight, I probably should have just taken it to the police. I never felt in danger or scared for my safety but it was totally inappropriate and if I did that I would be in jail."
krzysztoflee
You're an Adult
"I was working at a birthday party in a bar once, and a really drunk 40 year old woman decided to just walk behind the counter and slip a banknote into my shirt. She then started to rub around my chest like some sort of massage I guess? It was really weird, I just stood there confused waiting for it to end."
"Her husband was watching the whole time and didn't seem to happy about the whole thing. But nobody really seemed to care or just laughed about it. If I as a 40 year old man had done that to a 17 year old girl working at a bar, I would've gotten one hell of a lawsuit."
Xender04
Creepy Granny
Sam Heughan Dancing GIF by Men in Kilts: A Roadtrip with Sam and GrahamGiphy"Every wedding and funeral I have ever been to as a Scotsman, there are a gaggle of horny grannies who at every opportunity try to get a look under the kilt."
bonjelascott
Not okay, grannies. Let's respect cultural tradition and healthy boundaries.
She gets it now...
"I’ve been into weightlifting most of my adult life. As a result, my arms and chest are noticeable. I’m not like a body builder or anything but I’ve got big arms and a protruding chest. Women think that they can just grab on my arms and rub my chest without permission or warning. I think that they think it’s okay because they compliment me afterwards. It makes me uncomfortable."
"My fiancée never really took me serious about it until at a work party one of my female coworkers basically groped my arms in front of her and it made her jealous. She gets it now."
IWillFindUinRealLife
LIAR!
"The same exact crap that applies to sexual harassment against women. I had a girl I used to work with slap my a**, grab my crotch and try to rub her breasts against me. When I took it to HR nothing was done about it. A week later I got written up because she lied and told HR I had verbally abused her."
SugoiBakaMatt
Where is She?
"My partner was at a truck stop waiting for his food when some lady came up and grabbed his junk. Just walked up and shoved her hand down his pants. He pushed her off, said he was taken and told her to f**k off. She reached for him again and said 'Well she isn't here now, is she?'"
"It disgusts me people are like this, regardless of gender. It's even worse that women aren't held as accountable as men are."
peckerlips
This is Odd...
"My partner went to a job interview and the older woman kept touching him as they talked. Like on his arm or hand. I told him that’s not okay and he doesn’t have to take that."
"He said that he didn’t want to make a scene because she might accuse him of harassment in retaliation and she had his information."
"And I realized men put up with harassment out of fear too. Different reasons, but it sucks for both genders."
BarbarianFoxQueen
Excuse You?
Excuse Me Reaction GIF by BounceGiphy"I once had some chick walk past me and squeeze my junk and another one slap my butt and I'm pretty sure that neither of them knew that that was sexual harassment. (Edit: Both of these instances were on two separate occasions)."
CapG_13
Sexual harassment is still all too prevalent. We have a long way to go.
Do you have any experiences to share? Let us know in the comments.
Content warning: The following article contains stories about sexual harassment that might prove distressing for some readers.
Sexual harassment is defined as behavior characterized by the making of unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances in a workplace or other professional or social situation.
Sexual harassment affects both men and women but women are sadly more often on the receiving end of unwelcome behavior and advances.
Should it surprise us then that so many have stories about really aggressive behavior they've experienced from men, from total strangers to people they actually know?
Women shared their stories with us after Redditor ExpressAware asked the online community,
"Women of Reddit, what is the grossest thing a man has said to you?"
"When I was 18..."
"When I was 18 I worked at a gas station mostly staffed by women. One of my coworkers was pregnant. We had a regular customer who came in a windowless van who would harass us constantly. He would hit on us and leer at us and sit in the parking lot in his creepy abductor van and catcall us if we were out sweeping the parking lot while he drank his coffee."
"The worst thing I heard him say was to my pregnant coworker. He asked her when she was going to have his baby."
"Our manager heard it and came down hard on him. She started screaming in his face (and to paint the picture he was a tall lanky guy and she was a short stout lesbian with a butch haircut) and she banned him from the store.
"He huffed that he'd take his business elsewhere and she scoffed at him that his two coffee refills a day weren't going to break us and that she would not stand for him harassing her girls. That manager was a rockstar, she always had our backs."
sai_gunslinger
Can we all just hug your manager? She sounds amazing.
"Not the grossest..."
"Not the grossest but one of my step brothers said that I was going to be a lesbian when I grew up. He said it all the damn time."
[deleted]
There's nothing wrong with being a lesbian but it sounds like your stepbrother had some kind of hang-up.
"I was writing..."
"I was writing up a menu on a blackboard at a cafe. A regular said, 'Great, that’s where you belong…on your knees.' I wish I had snapped back but I was too shocked to reply to his f**cked remark."
Alessa1992
It’s like they all learn the same words through some kind of collective telepathic misogynistic osmosis.
"I worked at an ice cream shop..."
"I worked at an ice cream shop/gas station, they were famous for their peach ice cream, only available in summer. Some old man asked for a peach cone, and he said, 'I'll take some of your peaches too.'"
quirkytorch
This is so crude. Why do they think this is okay?! It's maddening.
"Said to a younger me..."
"Said to a younger me, a skinny little tween in my junior school uniform standing awkwardly nearby at the bus top: ‘You know what you need? A good meal, and lots of sex."
Littlesbeetroot
And he sounds like he needs a lot of jail time.
"Toss that kid away..."
""Toss that kid away, I'll give you a new one," from a middle-aged man in a convertible when I was biking with my then one-year-old."
Lijn5
What exactly is the point of these comments? Is it a control thing? Do they get off on the shock it causes?
"I had been dating a guy..."
"I had been dating a guy for a few weeks and out of the blue he said that he wasn’t actually attracted to me so he didn’t want to date me anymore but that he wanted to keep having sex with me… oh but he wouldn’t be using condoms."
EmergencyCalm1279
The audacity of some men.
The sheer audacity.
"I do some freelance bartending in addition to working at a sports bar. I was bartending for a wedding & talking with guests as I normally would. An older gentleman was complimenting my outfit/makeup/jewelry, telling me how pretty I am, harmless compliments."
"Then he told me I looked like one of his granddaughters & started looking me up & down giving me flirtatious looks. It made me feel so disgusting that I actually washed my hands to try to make the feeling go away."
[deleted]
Lecherous old men sitting in bars are such a common sight. Why do they think this behavior is okay?! Why?!
"The priest..."
"The priest who married my (ex) husband and I told him that "it's just a hole.""
manonfetch
This is just nauseating... tells you everything about how this man feels about women.
Sexual harassment is against the law. Don't do it. Sadly, this should go without saying but that isn't the world we live in.
Listen to women. Believe them.
RAINN is the nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization. RAINN created and operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline in partnership with more than 1,000 local sexual assault service providers across the country.
If you or someone you know has been sexually assaulted, help is available.
To speak with someone who is trained to help, call the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 800.656.HOPE (4673) or chat online at online.rainn.org.
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People Share The Most Effective Ways To Get A Man To Stop Hitting On You
Having a man flirt with you unwantedly is one of those things that starts out maybe a little flattering, but can quickly escalate to OMFGSTOP—particularly if he's not great at hearing "no."
Men who can't take "no" for an answer or lash out at rejection have literally killed women before. It's happened so often, in fact, that women tend to come up with all sorts of ways to reject without rejecting in an attempt to not die.
Which, let's be real, is tragic and disgusting and if men could just stop killing and/or attacking women who reject them, that would be dope and super appreciated.
Until then, we have Reddit.
Reddit user weird-n-nerdy asked:
"What are some effective ways to get a man to stop hitting on you?"
It's a heartbreaking fact of who we are as a society that women have to think this way ... but honestly, some of this stuff is genius.
Invitation To Negotiation
"Actual advice: never give a reason."
"Any reason is an invitation to negotiation for some people. It also gives them a sense that maybe they have an entitlement that's being blocked by 'reason.' "
"All the following work, depending on how nice you want to be, none give a reason."
" 'No,' 'not interested,' 'thank you, but no,' 'how nice, but not thank you,' 'I'm flattered, but no.' "
"If someone says 'why not?' Just repeat that you're not interested but move from polite to simple no."
"If someone persists past that simple no, then consider them a danger."
- dan_jeffers
GiphyBaby Runs For President
"There's a user on tiktok who shares a method called 'Baby Runs for President', where you basically ask them very blunt questions with the just shy of rude honesty that a toddler uses."
"You just keep asking stuff like 'what do you do?' 'what's that?' 'oh really? What's that?' and pretend not to understand a thing until the person gives up and leaves."
"The goal is to annoy/frustrate them into giving up while feigning interest to avoid bruising the ego."
- BossVal
"You don't want to seem interested. Ideally, you embarrass them."
"One of my friends had a perfect moment like this once. She was ringing up some creepy old dude, and his total ended in 69 cents. He tried to be all like: "
" 'That's lucky. It's my favorite number. You know why?' "
"She replied, 'Because it's your age?' "
"The people behind him in line died laughing."
- knitwit3
Grandma Burps
"Once a man was trying hitting on me in a bus."
"I was feeling very bloated and gassy... and burped aloud right in his face, like a huge grandma burp."
"The look on his face was priceless. He didn't bother me again."
- clementine-1017
Boss Babe
"Ask him to buy into your MLM scheme."
- virgilhall
"This is true."
"Had a girl tell me about this job she worked at called world financial group and it was such a turn off that I ghosted her."
"Little did she know I have been invited to 3 of them already and I only went out of boredom for the free snacks and drinks."
- alognoV
"Dude this worked on me! A very attractive girl tried to sell me on some weight loss shakes or something. Bye, bye!"
- CrazedInventor
"Can confirm it works."
"I was stuck on a ferris wheel on a date with her trying to sell some shady pyramid scheme."
- HowtoCrackanegg
Just In Case
"Tell the story of how your last boyfriend broke up with you, and how it was crazy of him to freak out just because you stored some of his semen in your fridge 'just in case.' ”
- ChrisChrisBangBang
"I would be appalled at this."
"A refrigerator? A home freezer isn't even cold enough to store it safely and you're talking about a fridge?"
"Good day, madam!"
- MackLuster77
"Jesus f*cking christ, what is wrong with people?"
"Semen won't keep in the fridge for much longer than a few weeks, it needs to be frozen in a sterilized container and stored pretty close to -200o C, because that's how cold it has to be to get biological activity to stop."
"Ugh."
- Secret_Autodidact
GiphyA Lightsaber
"One time all it took was the guy seeing my Star Wars tattoo. That was amazing for me."
"I have a lot of tattoos, one is a lightsaber. He was bugging be for several minutes before he noticed it, but he stopped and asked, 'Sorry, what is that a tattoo of?' "
"It’s nothing elaborate, just a small blue lightsaber. My brother has a matching green one, we got them together."
"So I said, 'it’s a lightsaber.' ”
"And without saying another word, he turned his back to me and walked away. It was awesome."
- Barfignugen
Makin' It Weird
"Get really weird, really, really fast."
"Weird them out so much that they think you're a freak - definitely don't do it in a sexual way."
"A friend of mine once did this to a guy who sat at our table on a night out. She went right down in conspiracy theories, asking him why his shoes think he's orange, all sorts of really weird stuff just to make him uncomfortable enough that he got up and left within a few minutes."
"It was impressive, actually."
- 64gbBumFunCannon
A Proper Bank Robber
"Wearing a mask has really cut down on my appeal to older conservative men, which has been great!"
- musclebarbie22
"That’s because those guys can’t use the 'smile' opening. The only opening those butt wipes know is to refer to your mouth."
"50 years ago those old dudes had dad’s that said, 'Son, if you compliment their smile, it’s in the bag.' And never learned another pick up line."
"Now you’re wearing a mask? Their brains cannot compute."
"It’s a miracle of science!"
- averagejanecitizen
"My wife told me that this customer told her 'it’s hard to mentally make love to you with that mask on, you should take it off.' ”
"She told me that she made a retching gesture and walked off then refused to serve him anymore."
- broken-not-bent
"Mask has been an utter blessing, but then I started getting 'I wonder if your smile matches those beautiful eyes.' "
"So, now I wear sunglasses with my mask and look like a proper bank robber at all times."
- BrownSugarBare
All Along The Watchtower
"My sister learned this from a friend and started doing this as well."
"She carried a couple of issues of Watchtower in her purse and when the guys started hitting on her, got a very earnest look on her face, pulled them out and started saying 'Have you been saved? Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior?' "
"It worked better than mace."
- JustinChristoph
Giphy"I'm A Mother"
"Saying 'Sorry, I’m not interested, I’m a mother.' then showing them (many!) pictures of my kids made miracles happen."
- quietdiablita
"This is great. And if they try to leave just say 'no no wait! I have more photos!' "
- Ok-Story-3532
" 'I’ve got some court dates scheduled because their dads aren’t paying child support, so it’s hard to find time...' ”
- DrinKwine7
"I don't really flirt with women. But this would definitely work for me. I despise children."
- Blood-Lord
"Tried this once, dude actually wanted to be a father and had an impregnation/pregnancy fetish. Fail."
- AlessiaRS18
Have you used any of these techniques?
Is there one you'd like to add to the list?
Let's get to it in the comments.
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Sure, it's flattering when someone shows romantic interest in you.
But sometimes, the easiest thing to do in a scenario where an admirer can't take a hint and refuses to back down is to come up with a ploy to help you evade being pursued.
"What are some effective ways to get a woman to stop hitting on you?"
The following can shatter their preconceived notions they've had of you.
Parental Guidance
"Tell her you have to ask your mom first."
– theomniconian
Community Creators
"Tell them about the discords you're an admin for"
"Ah nvm that never works."
– ThisAnswerIsLit
Two Options
"Tell her about your crypto holdings, and if that doesn't work, your desire for a good Christian wife at home giving you 9 kids."
– FlyingBike
More Time On The Pot
"On this same tip, just go to the bathroom constantly. Do it an inordinate and possibly annoyingly large amount of times. It will either annoy her and she'll end it, or ask what's up. If she does, you tell her you'd rather deal with your own sh*t than hers, hence all the time on the toilet."
– Im_still_T
These are considered instant turn-offs.
Auto-Response
"Bark at her."
"Edit: worked for a buddy."
– LatelySad
Potty Humor
"Flatulence."
– Fickle-Bat8433
"On this same tip, just go to the bathroom constantly. Do it an inordinate and possibly annoyingly large amount of times. It will either annoy her and she'll end it, or ask what's up. If she does, you tell her you'd rather deal with your own sh*t than hers, hence all the time on the toilet."
– Im_still_T
The Hiss
"Hiss at her and run away Naruto style."
– No_Web2325
Get Soiled
"You'd be surprised how many awkward social encounters sh*tting your pants will get you out of."
– Archangel616
Human Fire Hydrant
"Pee on her leg while she's standing next to you."
– TeenyIzeze
Going For The Jugular
"Nuclear option: Tell her you're not interested because she's fat."
"Had a girl who was 'with' my buddy at the time, and was going behind him and trying to get with me at a concert. I repeatedly told her no, because she was with him. She wouldn't accept that answer and kept pushing, saying she was done with him and over him. I dropped the F bomb after about 5 minutes of back and forth, with little alternative left. I got a slap in the face, but I didn't let my buddy's girl in my pants."
"Some women are very aggressive in their pursuit. O_o"
– Grifballhero
Do Social Media
"Open reddit."
– deathbylightmode
"I second this. create a new user make sure it has the word 'incel' in it too."
– luminous60
A little humiliation goes a long way.
Look At Me
"My face is usually effective enough at doing that."
– yeetgodmcnechass
Unapologetically You
"Being myself seems to have worked so far."
– khalamar
Letting Her In On "The Bet"
"Remind her that she didn't have to take that bet with her friends to hit on the ugliest guy in the room."
– Foxk
The First Thing
"Well step one is to be attractive enough to get hit on.... Step 1 is the hardest step 😔"
– asiansAREwatchingALL
Sometimes, the good ole fashioned truth is the best option.
Redditor decorama said:
"Be direct. 'I am flattered, but I'm sorry, I'm just not interested'. Done."
Everyone deserves a chance to be given credit for understanding the truth and moving on.
However, if they respond negatively, refer to any of the above to drop the bomb on the persistent women who can't take "no" for an answer.
Scat you later!
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It's no secret that teaching is hard. If you're not dealing with unruly students, you're dealing with unsupportive admin, to say nothing of all the work that's required of you when you're technically off the clock.
But let's go back to the subject of unruly students for a second: They can be more than merely unruly. In fact, they can pose a threat to a teacher while they're working. Who the hell wants to work in an environment where you might be assaulted by your charges?
Believe it or not – it definitely happens.
People shared their stories after Redditor TheRealZFinch asked the online community:
"Teachers of Reddit, what's the worst thing a student did to you?"
"After an inquiry..."
"I had a student run into me and bounce off of me. She then accused me of shoving her and hurting her back. I was relieved of my position and I resigned. Fortunately the footage shows that I was hit by her, but I still lost my job."
"After an inquiry with the Texas Education Agency they found I did nothing wrong and I got to keep my license. Fortunately I was offered a position with a government contractor making more money with a lot less stress. I never want to step foot in a classroom as a teacher ever again."
damnpenguins4269
I knew a teacher in a similar situation that forced her into early retirement. She was bitter until the end and I can't say I blamed her one bit.
"Had another student..."
"Out loud to the whole class, I had a student wish cancer on my unborn son. Had another student say he would shoot my wife."
mywifemademegetthis
Hopefully this student was removed and received some serious help. It wouldn't surprise us if you're no longer teaching.
"During my first year..."
"During my first year of teaching a student put coins in a condom and then flung it at me. It got wrapped around the document camera I was using... but hey, at least they have protection on themselves."
HistoricalPublic80
Ha! At least you have a good sense of humor about the whole thing.
"Had a high school student sneak up on me..."
"Had a high school student sneak up from behind me, jump on my back and lock me in a rear-naked choke. I was able to break out quickly and he bolted from the school."
MrHill1971
That is terrifying. The student must have been caught and punished after that, yes?
"I taught elementary kids..."
"I taught elementary kids in Korea and they were honestly angels, but when I subbed for a friend’s high school class for a week I had a student and his friends try to lock me in the classroom alone with them while they acted really overbearing and sexual."
punctuationist
Being trapped in a room with students sounds terrifying. They are so unpredictable.
"Just a lot of general disrespect..."
"Just a lot of general disrespect and apathy towards anything educational. And that was about 90% of the students. Very little to no support from admin or district."
"They act (and talk) like they care about the kids, they have meetings and draft long, exhausting 'frameworks' for teaching and classroom management, but when it comes to actually doing something about the problems facing teachers and helping the kids, they do nothing."
littleshopofhoors
Many of the teachers I have met have told me that though they dealt with some terrible students, few things irked them more than admin.
"A colleague..."
"A colleague was stalked by a kid. Found out where she lived, where she shopped, what her routine was. Used to get her friends to stand outside her house and harass her outside Tesco."
"She would make comments in class, such as 'Aren't green curtains nice?' knowing the teacher had green curtains, for example. It got so bad she got the police involved and ended up moving house."
EveningRose619
It is unsurprising that this wasn't taken all that seriously. Women who are stalked seldom are taken seriously.
"A 14-year-old boy..."
"A 14-year-old boy threatened to beat me up and 'get me' after school. When he stormed out to scream in the corridor, I had to lock the door. He then was pounding on the door and screaming at me."
"There was no phone in the room and teachers aren't allowed their mobiles on them. So one of the kids had to phone the office for someone to come help, as the other teacher in that corridor wasn't bothering. Nothing was done."
EveningRose619
No phone in the room?! Hopefully this rule has been changed.
"I'll never forget..."
"I'll never forget the day I had a student light off a firework in my classroom. It's not the worst thing I've ever had a student do in my classroom, but it's definitely the most unexpected thing that I've had happen."
DerekIsAGoner
Fireworks are so dangerous and people don't seem to realize this until gruesome accidents happen.
"I was a professor..."
"I was a professor for a short while before I noped out of there. I had a student hack into the lab cluster and encrypt the drive because he didn't like another student. Luckily while I was trying to "reason" with him my other students unencrypted the drive."
BeaBeaTurtle
Okay, this is evil... and genius and I hate it? Talk about an inconvenience.
"I had a student..."
"I had a student bring a weapon to school with a list of people they were going to knock off with it, myself included. Side note, the school wanted to return the student to my classroom after a week, I had to get a court order to stop that from happening."
nicehumansfinish1st
This whole experience sounds like it would have been prime for a proper lawsuit.
"A very aggressive child..."
"A very aggressive child attacked me, digging his nails into my arm and drawing blood. He then twisted my arm backwards. That was a fun report."
Winchesters_TARDIS
When I read stuff like this, I am reminded that I don't particularly like to be around children.
Not only is being a teacher difficult, it also comes with all of these risks! Rethinking whether you should teach? So are all the people in the profession to begin with.
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