Hollywood really has made a mess of entertainment and storytelling.
And it doesn't have to be that way.
There are so many people with new, fresh ideas, yet they choose to keep redoing the same old. concepts.
The people want more and better and it is possible
Nobody needs 167 sequels done poorly!
Redditor MainCrab1383 wanted the entertainment industry to listen up!!
"What do you wish Hollywood would stop doing?"
I wish they would give more chances unknowns. Every known starts an unknown, you know.
It was already great!
Behind The Scenes GIF by BET AwardsGiphy"Remakes of good movies, I don’t understand why they remake good movies, when there are tons of flops that have potential, that they could remake."
Ratchel1916
Not Real
"Characters getting punched multiple times in the face in 1 scene and having no signs of the trauma in the next scene."
kyle158
"Or shot, but they remove the bullet in a dirty motel and sew it up with freaking twine and knitting needles so now it doesn’t hurt anymore and they can go fight more bad guys unencumbered."
Parking_Aerie4454
"This reminded me of characters getting absolutely wasted then either being relatively sober in the next scene, or have no hangover the day after."
pt256
Lights Up!
"Stop making films and TV shows that we cannot see because they are too dark and cannot hear what TF people are saying. That would be a good start."
No-Abrocoma-381
"I honestly think some vfx engineers stuffed up and others thought it was a trend and continued to underexpose. Series 8 of game of Thrones was about 8 slightly diffident blank pixels running about the screen."
Procedure-Minimum
Fill her up!
"EMPTY CUPS. I hate seeing people holding cups and pretending to take drinks from obviously empty cups. Their hands never move right, or if it’s an open cup, you can literally see that it’s empty."
undecyded
"They move their hand way too fast! It's like they don't even know they're supposed to be pretending it has liquid inside."
Alcohorse
Not a 10
Interested Saturday Night Live GIF by HULUGiphy"Casting attractive people in ‘ugly’ roles."'
R_man98
"Like when the obviously gorgeous person gets a makeover."
storagerock
Casting is subjective... so they say.
Save Them!
Season 5 Nbc GIF by The OfficeGiphy"Showing incorrect CPR."
myersla
"Just do what the AED tells you to do. No thinking required."
Ok_Opportunity2693
that scene....
"Forcing a love story that makes no sense in a movie that has nothing to do with romance."
Jesuslovesmemost
"Long kisses in the middle of a 'we're running out of time' scene. We gotta save the world, but let me take my time to say goodbye/goodluck first."
aldhibain
"Long kisses after a death defying scene. Sure, kissing is what they do next."
Busy-Appearance-6077
Makes no Sense
"Having a main character whose job/income level does not match their home or lifestyle at all."
Stellathewizard
"I was about to say that Charlie’s shi**y apartment in 'It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia' is the one exception to that rule I can think of. But oddly enough his roommate, Frank, is a millionaire."
FlowRiderBob
"Supposedly when they started making Big Bang Theory they tried putting them in a realistic apartment, and it made it really depressing."
Hrothen
WTF?!
"Adapting stuff into live-action movies when they should really be animated. Examples include upcoming Mega Man, Pac-Man and Minecraft movies which are ALL set to be live-action."
TheChainLink2
"I had no idea that any of these movies were in the works. Pac-Man will be half CGI, NO doubt. Going the Sonic route. Unless they literally just have it as an inspiration, and it's just a guy in yellow running away from ghosts in a labyrinth."
"Minecraft? Well, everyone will watch it, so I'm sure they don't care if it's good. But it's clearly going to focus on Steve building a nether portal and trying to kill a f**king dragon. Mega-Man? Yeah, I can see that working live action. Oh wait, it's a Netflix Original? Yeah, no. That's going to be absolute trash."
Maxtrix07
ID please?
Beverly Hills 90210 90S GIFGiphy"Casting 35 year olds as high schoolers."
StaircaseRailing
"Can we add casting 16-18 year olds to play 11 year olds?! Priah Ferguson was 16 when she played 11 year old Erica Sinclair in Stranger Things season 4. WTH!?"
thatswhatthekidssay
A Nice Mix
"I wish Hollywood would stop treating the medium of animation as something inherently inferior to live action. I also wish 2D animation was used more for movies."
LunarWingCap
"I completely agree! There’s a unique magic in hand drawn animation. I’d even appreciate a mix of 2D/3D or animation and live action."
ArtbySV4151452
"They also should stop calling animation a genre, it's not a genre, it's a medium, as you said." ~ SvenNeve
Save the Kids
"Treating child stars like crap."
my_gender_is_a_glock
"I was watching a YouTube video about Dan Schneider. Apparently Nickelodeon chose Florida to film their shows because of the lack of child labor laws. They also purposefully chose kids whose parents were more likely to be absent or neglectful so they could control the kids more. Like wtf."
SavannahInChicago
No Execs
"All great answers but what I've seen lately is just a lot of whacky decision making. There's multiple video game adaption movies and TV shows come out lately that miss the mark completely. Resident Evil/Halo Etc."
"I know adaptations always have their quirks and things that would outrage a fan base but geez. The Halo TV show really felt like they just wanted to write their own story with already existing characters. It all comes down to executive decision."
"I just wish the creators have more control over their projects. Instead of having execs with no creative abilities suggesting 'Maybe you should make the super-soldier get out of his augmented power armor and instead just fight naked, also make him want to bang the enemy like Romeo & Juliette.'"
NippleBlender
Bad Moves
Giphy"Shaky cam action fight scenes. No this is not artistic. Your choreography just sucks and you have to hide it."
edwadokun
Speak Up
"Lately, so many movies are dark-scened. Watching old movies I can actually SEE what is going on. A lot of new movies I can barely discern what the hell is going on. It could be day time in the scene and it feels like night time. Also, I can’t freaking hear crap anymore in movies. They’re loud mumbling."
Willy_Billy_WHO
Yummy
"Stop having people take like 1 bite of what they ordered then leave. It's a small thing, but I've never seen it happen in real life."
Smitty876
"Or worse, order something when they just intend to talk to someone there for a couple minutes and then leave when the food arrives. Who pays for it?"
FuturePut5
"I now want to see a movie set in one of these restaurants where every protagonist goes to eat. Just a constant parade of people taking one bite, throwing money on the table, or walking out without paying at all."
theresamouseinmyhous
One at a time...
Self Defense Fighting GIFGiphy"Making movies where the 1 good guy defeats 20 bad guys because the 20 bad guys attack the 1 good guy one by one."
yamsnavas2
The Bad Giveaways
"Spoiling the film in the trailers."
Painting-Powerful
"Or showing all the best/funniest scenes in the trailer and then leaving you wondering wtf am I watching when watching the movie itself."
Kataphractoi
"Or they misrepresent the movie entirely by spinning it as a comedy when it's really a drama with a couple funny bits and only those funny bits make the trailer."
Secretagentmanstumpy
Lord Hollywood has a lot of work to do!
What would you add to this list? Let us know in the comments.
I know a lot of people complain about the new Star Wars movies. And the prequels. And everything that isn't Empire Strikes Back. But one thing is for sure, that franchise will never go away.
Other franchises aren't so lucky. While one may have a good starter movie, as time goes on, they can decrease in quality. Here are a few of the worst ones.
U/Legal-Cartographer-1 asked: What's the movie so bad that it killed off the whole franchise?
When franchises end on a really strong movie, that's a beautiful thing. Back to the Future 3, Army of Darkness--a good finale leaves a series on a powerful note. Safe to say, that's incredibly rare.
Botched.
Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters. There were 3 more books in the PJ story plus all of Rick Riordan's other books/spin-offs. There was so much potential and it was just botched.
The first movie already killed it to some degree. Too many things were left out to the point where they would have to completely redo the story of the third book if they wanted to turn it into a movie.
It was worth it for the memes.
jennifer lawrence cat GIFGiphyWhen the Cat in the Hat movie with Mike Meyers was released, Dr. Seuss's (Theodore Geisel's) wife Audrey was so disappointed and disgusted with how it turned out, she never approved of any more live action adaptations.
Subsequent films have now instead only used computer animation adaptations instead of live action studio versions.
Cat in the Hat was a compromise Myers made with the studio after he refused to fill his contract to make the Sprockets movies because he didn't like the script. Think about that for a second, the Sprockets script was so bad that Cat in the Hat was the better option.
‘Pirates’ was an exception.
Disney's The Lone Ranger and John Carter were both supposed to be the first of a series, like Pirates of the Caribbean.
I feel like Pirates of the Caribbean was supposed to be a one off movie that ended up so successful they decided to turn it into a franchise.
At least Ryan Reynolds liked it.
'Green Lantern'. They had big plans for sequels and a wide story arc but because the movie bombed at the Box Office all of that was scrapped.
Ryan Reynolds finally saw it recently and he thought it wasn't actually that bad.
What some may call a massive flop, others may call the perfect tragic finale. In a way, bad movies are their own art form.
Ok, this would’ve been awesome.
stephen king carrie GIF by hoppipGiphyI heard there were plans for a Stephen King cinematic universe of some sort, but given how badly the Dark Tower did that's probably never going to happen now.
Harry Potter messed everything up.
Allegiant: the movie after Divergent and Insurgent. The end of the Divergent series was never made into a movie because Allegiant turned out so badly.
Didn't they also overcomplicate the conclusion? I think because Harry Potter split the last book into 2 movies, everyone around that time tried to do the same for a cash grab (looking at you, Hunger Games). So they split the last book into 2 movies, then changed the last movie into a tv miniseries, but forgot to check with the cast first. Since it wasn't in their contract and they didn't want to do it, they bailed.
I thought I remembered reading that somewhere. I'm not a YA book reader, but an avid movie watcher who struggles with incomplete stories. I always have to finish a story once I start, no matter how bad it is. I've only ever stopped watching 3 movies in my whole life. 2 were Tom Cruise movies.
This one disappointed a lot of people.
The Last Airbender. I'm guessing by the ending they had elaborate plans to turn this into a franchise of all the seasons. Wow. So horribly bad. Also, prior to the movie I had never even watched an episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender.
I had an even greater appreciation of how bad they f*cked up after watching them all during the pandemic. Ouch.
Speaking of disappointments, here are a few more. RIP these franchises.
Genuinely tragic.
talking brad pitt GIFGiphyQueen of the Damned.
Interview with the Vampire was amazing. 8 years later they skipped the 2nd book in the series and went to the 3rd. I don't know why. The 2nd book, The Vampire Lestat, was the best in the series. Maybe they couldn't get Tom Cruise to continue, and just decided that would be the end of it. Then some jack@ss came up with the idea to do a sh!t job of Queen of the Damned and ... ugh.
They didn’t even break even.
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
The most expensive indie film and most expensive European film of all time ($200+ million budget) and it barely broke even at the box office, probably netting a 9-figure loss when factoring in marketing and publicity costs.
Neither Cara Delevingne nor Dane DeHaan have worked much since, though this was hardly the first franchise killer either of them have been involved with (Suicide Squad for Delevingne, The Amazing Spider Man 2 for DeHaan),
Thank goodness for that.
The Mummy with Tom Cruz. It was meant to kick off an entire "Dark Universe" of horror movie remakes but it was horrible.
The Mummy was their second "first movie in a cinematic universe". Dracula Untold was their previous attempt, which also bombed.
It's true, for every Army of Darkness, there are ten terrible sequels. Sometimes, franchises are best just left alone after the first film.
Let it be known, just because they spent a lot of money on it, doesn't mean it's gonna be good.
When a movie rakes in a ton of cash at the box office, the studio that made it has only one thing on its mind: "How do we keep shaking this money tree?"
Unfortunately, that means they make sequels, sometimes sequels on sequels on sequels.
At times, the sequels are solid. They tie nicely into the first film, emphasizing the qualities that brought folks out to the first one, while immersing them into that world for another great couple of hours.
But sometimes, it's wildly clear that the longterm planning behind a sequel was minimal at best. These part two's are truly terrible experiences, made even more disappointing by the excitement created by everyone's love for the first.
Some Redditors shared the worst examples.
Sullivans97 asked, "What is the worst movie sequel ever?"
Plenty of contributions to the thread were noteworthy simply because the Redditors' deep hatred for a sequel spurred them to write a very entertaining review.
WORST
"Son of the Mask. Worst sequel. Worst movie. Worst piece of entertainment. Worst experience to sit through as a human being."
-- cityboy1997
Oddly Specific Analogy
"Independence Day: Resurgence."
"What the fu** was that giant heap of steaming camel sh**?"
-- Snowbattt
Two Key Elements
"Mulan 2."
"The plot is mostly driven by Mushu acting like a real piece of sh**, and Shang gets turned into the butt monkey of the movie as a consequence."
"Vastly inferior to the first one."
-- Gneissisnice
Just Horrible Decisions Every Step of the Way
"Where is Speed 2?"
"No Keanu"
"Speeding cruise ship (Zzzzzzz)"
"Horrendous dialogue"
"WTF were they thinking?"
Other people chose to discuss the sequels that, for whatever reason, chose not to include the key attributes that made the first movie so good.
Whether it was the absence of character, actor, or overarching theme, the experience was as puzzling as it was frustrating.
Insert Muscle Here
"Kindergarten Cop 2. Yes it does exist and it is a bad as it sounds. Dolph Lundgren takes over the role of Schwarzenegger." -- TheBassMeister
"Bro, don't be such a jabroni. Imagine, a super ripped, super smart cop-in a mesh tank top-named officer Dolph Lundgren." -- why_not_fandy
"Ugh wtf the movie was great why make another one" -- c_girl_108
Quick Thinking
"American Psycho 2. It wasn't even originally intended to be a sequel, they just shoved the name on it and added loose references to Patrick Bateman. Awful." -- Mountain_Situation89
"Mila kunas who is in it was told it was a different name and was pissed when they ended up making it a 'sequel' " -- Imfrank123
"Yea, that's the thing. The movie would have been a decent film if it was just a serial killer film and not an AP sequel." -- JennyBean2000
Two Demerits
"Still Waiting."
"It had some okay parts, but what they did to Justin Long's character completely undercuts the meaning of the first movie. And no Ryan Reynolds."
-- NikolaiEgel
Last, some people realized that any film franchise that goes beyond two installments is just asking for things to go downhill in a hurry.
Once you cross three--and even four--your just too far from the source.
What Even Is Home Alone 5?
"Home Alone 3, 4, and 5" -- theWet_Bandits
"I honestly enjoyed 3, sure it made no sense at all, but I can look past that and really enjoyed it. 4 and 5 on the other hand, I barely remember what 4 was about and had completely forgotten that 5 existed until just now." -- botbattler30
End of the Mummy Era
"The third Mummy movie." -- goshawkgirl
"Fun fact: The trailer for Mummy 3 has Brendan Fraser saying "here we go again" and Ben Stiller thought that line was ironically hilarious in terms of cranking out soulless sequels and it inspired the 'here we go again....again' line in the fake trailers at the beginning of Tropic Thunder." -- Call_Me_Koala
Part of the Reboot Frenzy
"Not to repeat others here (hopefully), but the 4th Indiana Jones movie should never have been made."
"For what it is worth, The odd numbers are great, the even numbers are terrible with the last one being one being Steven Segal bad."
So there you have it. A full list of movies to avoid at all costs no matter how bored you are flicking through Netflix lists.
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