Oh, the things people say.
Sometimes you wonder if people have the capability to think before they speak.
It's an especially thorny issue in relationships.
Redditor Human02211979 wanted men to share about the things they're over women saying, so they asked:
"What's a phrase men hate hearing from women?"
I don't dabble with the ladies.
I feel like I'm about to be glad about that.
Thoughts?
season 6 episode 24 GIFGiphy“'Do you know why I pulled you over?'”
WHEENC
"It depends on how long you were following me."
ersomething
Just Pick!
"The food thing."
"'I'm not hungry or you pick... but not there not there not there not there or there.'"
"It's one of the most widely joked about relationship tropes... but it has to be one of the truest. I watched two married friends this weekend almost lose it over this lol."
HotelRwandaBeef
"Frustrating for anyone in a relationship whose partner does this. I'm a woman and my male fiancée can't make a decision about food to save his life, almost literally. If you put him in a room with his 2 favorite foods and told him he can't eat until he chooses one, he would starve to death. It makes me freaking crazy."
forestfairygremlin
Not Good Enough
“'They couldn’t handle me.'”
"Relationships are about building each other up, not constantly having to deal with the other person’s attitude or poor behavior/mental health. This is not as much of a flex as a lot of people think it is and raises major red flags for me."
OreoKing10
"Dude this is so true, God *amn its true. These type of girls who say that are ONLY trouble and have no insight to why they act like they do. Its mental."
TheZwoop
“nothing”
"'How can you not think anything, you must be hiding something.'"
SuvenPan
"I mean sometimes it’s nothing but most of the time 'nothing' is just a random situation that makes no sense that I’m thinking of in my mind. I don’t know why I’m trying to think which animal would be the best drift racer and I don’t know where to start explaining the thought process behind it or how I even got there."
ThePowerPoint
Say Nothing
quiet tim and eric GIFGiphy"'Do you like my friend?' Because it always ends up in an argument either way."
nothinglasts21
Oh that is a dangerous setup.
It's a Trap
the office no GIFGiphy"'Tell me what you are thinking. Do I look fat? Be honest.'"
illini02“
"'As a modern woman, you do not need a man to validate your self-image. Take a look in the mirror and tell yourself whether or not you look fat.'"
Jedi_Master_Baggins
Start Over
"Are you even listening to me, and I think to myself what a weird way to start a conversation."
bigfish3636
"I sometimes forget that whenever my boyfriend is doing something like reading the paper, I have to get his attention BEFORE I start talking. Often ends in me talking for a minute before noticing an all too familiar blank stare on his face which prompts the question 'did you get any of that?' and then he repeats the last three words in an unsure cadence. Then I start from the beginning, lol."
shadythrowaway9
Nonsense
“'How are you still single, you’re a great guy?' Hear it a bunch from some women friends of mine. I always just brush it off but kinda stings a bit more each time."
AverageJames
"I lived in a big house with lots of roommates. We had this big vent one night. We were going to go bar hopping but all the girls vented about how often they were bothered and hit on at bars. How they needed to go in groups to feel safe. And they never could go to just have fun with each other."
"2 weeks later I mentioned how frustrating dating can be at group dinner. There was a communal laugh about how easy it was. 'Literally just go to any bar.'"
DigNitty
Not my Owner
"Thankfully my current girlfriend doesn’t do this but don’t ever say you 'trained' your boyfriend or even friend to do something. Friendships and relationships are a great way to have a different perspective and take things on in different ways. To say you trained your friend or boyfriend is incredibly dehumanizing and makes you seem incredibly narcissistic and manipulative. Plus, you didn’t 'train' your boyfriend to use conditioner, you just made him realize that even though he doesn’t think it’s significant in his value system, it isn’t worth the fact you keep bugging him about it."
DuncanRobinson4MVP
Oh Lord
Come On Man GIF by IdentityGiphy"'I was thinking...'"
"Whenever my wife says that means I'm gonna be doing something that I don't want to."
Revolutionary-Rip-40
"And it's always 'I was thinking we should...' There's no WE here, just come out and tell me what I will be doing."
BusterOfBuyMoria
Know your warning signs gents...
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Women tend to be more compassionate than men. And whenever they see a guy in distress or conflicted about something, women might be inclined to say they understand what they're going through.
While their intention is good, they may not fully understand the gender-specific dilemma of the opposite sex.
Curious to explore examples of this, Redditor Gilvani_SB asked:
"Men, what is something a woman would never understand?"
Men describe an unpleasant experienced involving their toilets.
Deeper Toilet
"I wanted an tall elongated toilet when we remodeled our bathroom."
"She wanted a shorter round bowl."
"Trying to explain the need to wash my family jewels every time I sit on the toilet because it rubs the inside of the bowl was futile."
– makenzie71
Bad Contact
"Having a boner touch the toilet seat."
– MemeHacker101
"Ahh, the Witch's Kiss."
– DaMonkfish
Never Tapped Out
"No matter how many times you shake it you never get it all."
– lat46n2
Men discussed some of their physical challenges.
Cupping For Comfort
"Sometimes i want to hold my balls when I'm relaxing. I'm not going to rub one out right in front you."
– naipmylO
About Size
"Shrinkage."
– Northman67
"I would also like to expand on this. It's not just shrinkage. Guys don't have two sizes: soft and hard. Depending on what kind of underwear we're wearing, the temperature, how we're sitting, time of day, our mood, it can be soft and still look impressive like a shower, or, yes, like sometimes we don't even want to look at it."
"Boners also have 'two modes' so to speak. Regular hard, and maximum overboner. Like it's too powerful for its own good."
"tldr; a man's size is a spectrum. just cause you see him on a bad day, is not indicative of what he's capable of."
– Takanar
Discomfort
"Balls basically just sticky hand to your leg on a hot day. Like a fried egg nailed to the wall."
– SomeYoungOldDude
They're Very Delicate
"How sensitive testicles can be. Sure, you sack-tapped me last weekend and I didn't feel a thing, but when you grazed me 2 seconds ago you hit JUST the right spot, and brought me to the floor. It just happens."
– perpulstuph
Men talk about a stiff situation.
It's A Challenge
"Trying to pee with an erection."
– Klaus_Heisler87
"The harder it gets, the harder it gets."
– PhantomDeuce
Random Surprise
"Especially when younger, random boners."
– DavosLostFingers
Wetting The Bed
"The panic immediately after your first ejaculation. I didn't know what happened, but I knew it was a crime."
– cavemanfitz
These guys proved men do have feelings, even if they never profess to having them.
Some Positivity
"How long compliments stick with us. We remember forever because we rarely get them."
– throwaway224456789
"Bro for real I was extremely skinny in high school and got made fun of because of it and have been on and off working out for YEARS and during my last bout of working out I hit my highest weight ever and one of my friends said I look really good and noticed I've put on weight and that alone has kept me going for months."
– KrispyTrades
Responding To Perceptions
"People being afraid of me because I'm a big guy. I can give off an intimidating aura so if I'm walking behind a woman, she is often looking over her shoulder every now and then. I try to make a show of tying my shoe or slowing down so she gets some more distance. Sometimes I'll cross the road."
"I know why they are afraid of me. And I don't blame them in the slightest. It just hurts sometimes is all."
– ktbh4jc
Talk To Me
"When I take my toddler to the playground without my wife, I too would like to chat with the other adults."
"I feel like I am barely even tolerated, being around their children to make sure mine's OK and having good fun."
"F'king.. we can talk about cooking! Daycares! Just f'king TALK TO ME I AM NOT EVEN WEARING A TRENCH COAT AND YOU DON'T KNOW MY REDDIT NAME!!"
– frugal_masturbater
And there you have it.
For the ladies who've been curious about what it's like having a kickstand between their legs, men covered it all.
But in addition to testicle sensitivity, men can also be emotionally vulnerable. You just never hear some of them opening up about their feelings, because they've been socialized to associate it to weakness.
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People Break Down What Was Meant For One Gender But Is Actually More Useful For The Other
Just because something is marketed for a specific gender doesn't mean the consumer has to comport with the manufacturer's recommendation.
Redditor kushnair asked:
"What was supposed to be used by one gender, but is far more useful to the other?"
When it comes to clothing, it's all about comfort.
Holy Crop
"crop tops were initially made for men, that's why you see a lot of 70s rock artists sporting one."
– AcceptableFunction43
Who's Sweater?
"I have an awesome teal sweater that I realized was a women's when the receipt read 'boyfriend sweater.'"
– allaflhollows
"That's you. You're the boyfriend."
– fake_zack
What The Fluff?
"I usually buy men's sweatshirts that have the 'fluffy' inside. Women's fluffy sweatshirts have the fluff on the hood but never on the inside, the material is so thin, and they are usually more expensive or the same price."
– zeelzemoth
What matters here is how comfortable you feel.
Pain-Free Ride
"Ladies' bicycles - no nut-busting bar."
– DanThaBoy
If The Shoe Fits
"Men's casual footwear for women with large feet."
– Senzokai
Cosplay Convenience
"I'm on the opposite side of this. I'm a smaller guy who likes to cosplay, and boots for men are expensive. I've got a couple of pairs of women's size 10 boots that I use for my Link (from Legend of Zelda) and steampunk cosplays."
– High_Stream
Stepping Into Historical Context
"High heels were invented for men, specifically cavalry, as it helped stay in stirrups more easily."
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_shoe#Pre-1700s"
– I_Bin_Painting
And when it comes to certain products found in drug stores, both genders have no problem swapping.
Cuts Both Ways
"I don't know if it's universal, but several women I've known, prefer men's razors."
– Proper_Lunch_3640
Fabulous Hair, Don't Care
"I get way more compliments on my hair when I use generic or lady shampoo / conditioner. Most men's are 2-1s or 3-1s that are most equivalent to dish soap."
– ElectrolyticPlatypus
Meant For Black Men
"Magic Shaving Powder was created for black men, but I understand a lot of women use it for removing their pubic hair."
– LevelPerception4
Makes Scents
"Women's deodorant works better for me if that counts."
– Whirling_
"Womens deo smells way better! Hate the teenage sports boys locker room scents or old man cigar strong flavor stuff."
– NXC160
Durable AND Useful
"As a woman I find both men's (unscented) deodorant and razors to be more durable and useful! I love to read of men doing this with women's products!"
– LovingMap
I don't like feeling constricted in the nether regions, which is why I say the Scots had it right all along with wearing kilts.
My high school marching band uniform was a kilt, since we were known as the mighty Scots. There was an unspoken tradition that first-time marchers had to go free-ballin' underneath and be prepared for the kilt to be "lifted" at any given time. Let's just say, the freedom I felt wearing the kilt "authentically" was wonderful.
Sure, skirts are "meant" for women, but they should be just as fitting for men as well.
We've just become socialized to think otherwise.
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People Explain Which Things They Wish Were Normalized For Their Gender
Society places a lot of expectations on us based on our perceived gender, and those expectations can be a major burden. Guys who like pink or want to be nurturing fathers, women who like sports, gaming, or working out, all are often ridiculed or deemed suspicious by society. Nonbinary folks are often not acknowledged at all, and are expected to rigidly adhere to the role predetermined by their sex assigned at birth.
Reddit user Zealousideal-Way3105 asked:
"What do you wish was normalized for your gender?"
Kids Are Great
Showing enthusiasm towards random children.
Why do I have to pretend like they don't exist?
I had a daycare when my kids were growing up so they were used to giving littles attention. Later my son worked in a grocery store and realized that parents get offended if a man shows a reaction to their cute little kid. Even if that kid is waving at him, he waves back and mama bear gets angry. So dumb. He's not gonna jump in the cart with your kid. Geez
Ironically, being a woman that doesn't really enjoy being around kids and doesn't want them myself, I wish it was normalized for me to not show enthusiasm towards kids.
Anyone Can Struggle With Mental Illness
Mental illness, but that should be for everyone. Being a 6'5 250 pound dude with anxiety? Yeah I don't get taken serious in the slightest bit.
Unfortunately I think women aren't taken seriously either. It's just society deems women to be "weaker" and this falls in line with societal expectations/perceptions as "fragile" beings. There is hardly true support or understanding.
I feel you. I'm a 6'6" 280 lb man who's dealt with depression and anxiety since my early teens. Despite having what should have been very obvious symptoms that were readily visible to my parents, teachers, and school counselor, I didn't get any help as a kid. And having that attitude projected towards me made it take me a long time to realize that it was okay for me to get myself help as an adult.
Tradespeople Can Be Any Gender
I really wish women were more common in the trades.
Additionally, it shouldn’t be shocking when a woman knows how to use power tools or understands how a house is put together. It’s a valuable life skill.
Agreed. My mom is the handy one of the house and she’s teaching me. I think it’s vital for all genders to learn all aspects of running a home (cooking, using tools, cleaning properly) because it’s all equally important and it’s stupid that you’re supposed to be exempt from half of it if you’re a certain gender smh
It Doesn't Matter What Time Of The Month It Is
Having a bad day because you're having a bad day, not because you have PMS
Or when you aren't feeling good people's first question is if you're pregnant
"I said I have a sinus infection, Cathy, not a baby infection."
Nobody Has To Wear Makeup
Not wearing makeup or having to look pretty all the time.
I would settle with just not being asked if I'm sick if I go without.
On the flip side I wish I could conceal my adult acne without being judged for makeup… lol
Pink Is For Everyone
Not for me but my son. He loves pink. He's always been drawn to it. He picked out a pair of pink glasses at the eye doctor and I immediately said yes because he loved them. I'm so afraid he is going to get bullied but he is so proud of his new glasses. He wanted his hair pink this summer and I let him do it. Why can't little boys like pink too? He also loves monster trucks and dinosaurs. We live in the American south in a small town so you can probably imagine what the people in this town are like.
Being a stay at home dad. Mom does it and she's a hero. Dad does it and he's a failure. It's not cool.
Have a friend that is a SAHD. It has been a struggle for him over the years. Between the lack of support structures online (ie: good online communities for talking about different things or venting stress/concerns) and just how family and in-laws act about it.
He at least hasn't had to deal with societal issues at large for a number of reasons. One of the things that triggered the f**k out of him though was when he went in with his kid for regular checkups, the doctors/nurses would ask his wife questions about the kid even though the staff knows he is the main care taker. At one point his wife had to snap at the staff and tell them they need to ask him those questions because he knows more.
For as progressive as the West has moved in some ways on these kinds of things, it's still stuck in certain mindsets.
I'm a woman who is into watching certain sports. Some guys don't think that's normal.
So many guys have to quiz me on my fandom. It's crazy. They don't do that to their guy friends.
Oh boy, as a woman who's been playing video games and reading comics for over 20 years...I know all about the quizzing.
Boys Like Flowers Too
Getting flowers. Ain't no one ever get flowers for men. Flowers are great.
Told my partner I think it's bullsh*t that men don't get flowers and the next day she surprised me with a bunch of chrysanthemums. Needless to say I was over the moon.
Kitties For Everybody!
Being cat dad. I mean seriously, what is weird about a guy having a cat?
Years ago my roommate and I were picking up a cat from a farm, and they legit asked ‘what do 2 guys want with a cat anyways’ same thing as everyone else.
There is a guy on Twitter who talks about his journey to being a cat dad. It's so damn sweet that sometimes I just search the hashing catdad and read it again.
Arbitrary gender-based societal expectations hurt everybody. It doesn't hurt anyone for folks to have a mixture of likes and dislikes that are considered mascilune or feminine.
Gender is a construct--meaning that the gender roles which people occupy in everyday society are exclusively constructed by human beings. Frogs don't observe these rules, cats don't observe these rules, but humans do--and with those rules come a whole lot of stereotypes.
Redditor BodybuilderScary asked:
"What's one gender stereotype that you absolutely despise??"
Here were some of those answers.
A Parent In His Own Right
"As a dad, if I'm with my daughter I'm 'babysitting.' No, I'm parenting. She's my child."
front_yard_duck_dad
"Along this line, I (as a dad) just called to make a doctors appointment for my kids. The receptionist confirmed everything and said, 'Ok sir, and when your wife takes them to the appointment make sure she brings...' Really peeved me that I'm the one making the call and the arrangements and she assumes I won't be at the appointment."
MarvinGarden88
Cars????
"I'm a woman and do most minor work on my car myself. I use the shop that I do for inspections and oil changes specifically because the manager doesn't play games with me."
"Well, one inspection my favorite manager wasn't there. His employee thought it would be a good idea to tell me my rotors failed and try to sell me new brakes and rotors. I thanked him and headed straight to the auto parts store for rotors never thinking this shop would lie to me."
"Went home and realized there was nothing wrong with my rotors. Couldn't return the ones that I bought because I had opened them. Told the manager about it, showed him the old rotors, and got a bunch of free oil changes."
EllaBoDeep
We Got Feelings Too
"Men not being able to show emotions. We're supposed to just bottle it all in until we drop dead in our 50's."
SlyCoopersButt
"I'm seeing this less and less in younger people. Even in high school, a lot of men i know have embraced their emotions and things seem to be making a turn for the better."
OliveiraLWChamp
A Little Mall Excursion
"That all women love shopping, makeup, and salon visits."
yecatsgee
"This one is funny, because I am a dude and any time I go shopping with a female friend or girlfriend they are always getting annoyed that I want to window shop and browse and they just want to get the hell out of the store lol."
Rumpleminzeman
Abuse Doesn't Discriminate
"I used to do (basically) in-home family therapy, and our whole team had to explain multiple times to the 'most experienced' therapist on the team that yes, women can be domestic abusers, too. No hun, assuming 'he must've started it, or done something to deserve it' sounds an awful lot like victim-blaming. She would've never accused a woman of having 'deserved it,' had the genders been reversed."
Pooma1769
Not Feeling Like A Loser For Having A Partner
"I don't like that I'm expected to go get a girlfriend or wife. Like I can just run down to Costco and buy one. Finding someone you like who likes you back is hard enough let alone the effort a lasting relationship takes. Then you have to fit that into working all the time to support yourself."
"God forbid you have other issues like depression or anxiety that get in the way of being your best self to put out there for people.I'm not a failure, I'm trying my best and living in a society that makes you feel like a loser for that is incredibly taxing."
maceman486
Giant Babies
"Basically that men are incompetent children that cannot take care of themselves. You see this played out so much on TV and it is frustrating when people just assume that you cannot actually cook or do laundry because that you are a guy. And also that playing sports means that you are as dumb as a post. Those are the ones that get me."
REDDITprime1212
Being A Mom
"Women aren't complete unless they experience motherhood. Motherhood is not something that I ever want to experience. Firstly, I'm tokophobic, and secondly my dog pushes my limits every damn day. I can't even imagine how much worse an actual child would be."
BABYPUNK
Emotions Aren't For One Gender
"That women are emotional and men are rational. There are dudes who scream at their TV over a sports game and who'll mope all day if their team loses. Dudes who punch walls when they're upset. Dudes who are so butt-hurt about being rejected that they literally stalk or kill the woman who rejected them."
"I've been in workplaces where the guys are the gossipers who get snippy with each other and passive-aggressive. So whenever someone says that UgH wOmEn aRe So EmOtiOnAL, or whatever, I get as emotional as a dude in that I want to also punch a wall."
"Y'all are emotional too! And that's fine! Well, as long as you're dealing with it appropriately. Just stop making it seem like it's some bad thing that only women are! Stoicism or not remembering the last time you cried does not equal lack of emotion!"
go-with-the-flo
Nothing Like A Public Health Crisis To Put This In Perspective
"That a man working in a nursing home, childcare, or any traditionally female work are doing so entirely out of desperation until something better comes along, and/or they are bad at those Jobs. I have worked in a nursing home for 12years and I enjoy it and people still expect me to be more embarrassed then if I were working almost any other job. Thankfully people don't seem as judgmental this last year. Or I haven't been around a lot of people."
Touch Me
"That men don’t like cuddling/non-sexual physical contact." ~ SuburbanSquare
"I'd experienced it before with other men, but I got a partner recently, and what he said in reaction to cuddling him and playing with his hair was that "'his is the highlight of this entire pandemic,' and it just shows how little men get cuddled sometimes." ~ sparklingdinosaur
Good Gosh
"That women who like working with kids have a maternal instinct, and men who like working with kids are suspicious. Good gosh, can’t people just be nice?"
Aegis_et_Vanir
"I took my younger sister out to have fun. After we ate lunch I got pulled over and apparently done lady thought I was a predator and took a kid."
TinyKroda
Choices
"That you somehow have to choose between levels of 'masculinity.' I love working on cars, welding, baking, interior decorating... It doesn't have to be a binary choice!"
AustinMiniMan
"My mom said I wasn't manly enough a while ago, so I bought a hot pink sweatshirt and (also hot pink) sweat pants that I'm wearing right now lol. (I'm male)"
Sineater696969
Head of House
"That I, as a woman, needed to learn how to run a household for someone besides myself. When I was younger, my grandma would insist I'd need to learn young so I could manage things for my future family. As I got older, she came around to modern day thinking and kept pushing me to take over responsibilities, but for my own gain."
Rando_Clueless_Dork
"That women are perpetually catty and shallow, and they always want a bf who's 7 feet tall, is super jacked, and is rolling in enough money to support their catty, shallow lifestyles."
JustAnotherAviatrix
"AnotherAviatrixAbsolutely this. Women are just people, and sometimes the people we need to speak to the most are our boyfriends, fathers, brothers, etc. If we are friends with other women, it's not just to witch about the men in our lives. We also need to connect with each other."
"We might just chill and talk about the things we're interested in, whether it's sci-fi, computers, cooking, gaming, knitting, etc. We have hobbies and interests too, ones we are usually more than happy to share with the men in our lives... because men are also just people. We're just people. That's all. I think I replied to the wrong comment... but whatever, I'll leave it."
Products
"Gendered products. The belief that certain people can only buy and use things from some of the shelves in the store or they will be ostracised. Don't force preconceptions about who gets to enjoy your product."
Konkuriito
Well, until just now...
"That men and women can't be friends. It's SO stupid. I've had/have 3 really good friends who are men."
feliciates
"I am torn on this subject. While I do have women that I am friends with and would never date because they are in committed relationships I would be lying if I said the thought had never crossed my mind. Where as with my male friends I have never imagined being in a relationship with them. Well, until just now."
yota_life
Nuclear
"I don’t like the stereotype that girls are not good at math. My daughter is a nuclear engineering PhD student and she hears a lot of sexist stuff from male students along those lines."
Omggggggggggggggj
Blood Boil
"Anything along the lines of 'that's just how guys/girls/anyone in between or beyond are.' That's something only guys like to do. Something only girls like to watch. A man is strong. A woman is caring. My blood starts to boil if I just type it."
Strange_0ne
I DON’T CARE!!
"That clothes are for certain genders. Karen I don’t give a rats ass that I am wearing a men’s jacket in the winter, I’m making sure my boobs aren’t freezing off. Doesn’t mean I am on the LGBTQ+ spectrum. Same goes for guys. If Donnie Boy over there wants his balls swinging free in that skirt he’s free to do so. I DON’T CARE. As long as I’m not seeing bits and bob hanging out, I’m cool and so should you."
MomoPeachBear
Stereotypes often trap people in places they don't fully understand.
Roles and human nature go against each other so often that these stereotypes have caused plenty of problems throughout society.
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