I love movies. And as a writer I love characters even more. That's why it drives me up a wall when a film has a character, specifically a villain that serves no purpose or development or story. Every second given to a character we don't need takes away from the reasons we're all watching to begin with. Sometimes the villain is within, or it's existential. Save money on casting.Redditor u/syngedsyringe wanted to discuss which films have an overload of characters by asking... What movie has an unnecessary conflict or villain?
For instance, recently, Wonder Woman 1984. Where to begin? We didn't need both villains. Now don't get me wrong Pedro Pascal and Kristen Wiig were great but... we only needed one, for now. They could've built up one as the big bad for this film and laid the groundwork for the other to be the baddie for the following sequel. Just a thought.
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Mulan 2020.The witch really killed it. (bAd)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales. Seriously, what was the point of the Royal Navy in that movie, other than getting Henry and Carina to meet?
We recently watched the whole series, except 4 cause that one is pure sh*t, on D+. There's a definite drop in quality after the original trilogy was over. And what a waste of David Wenham, he's in like 3 scenes before Javiers ship eats his.
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
This was the first movie I've ever seen that had an ending that genuinely made me mad. We've already seen 4 movies that demonstrate that dinosaurs in the modern world are a bad idea. The problem could've been so easily fixed, but hey we need a sequel.
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The Joker in Suicide Squad. The movie itself is crap, but he really served no purpose. He was so hyped up prior to and then he was basically cut from most of the movie and we were given a generic villain and some sky beams.
We didn't need Palpatine in episode 9.
The entire sequel trilogy was just not thought out, but even then Episode 9 IMO is the worst because it just feels like JJ scoured the net for every possible fan theory and thought "how can I cram them all in here at once". I also feel like, regardless of people's thoughts on TLJ as a whole, the concept that the hero could just be somebody from nowhere is way better than "somehow, Palpatine survived and you're his granddaughter".
Also, it kinda betrays Palpatine's character for him to be indiscriminately destructive on a galaxy-wide scale. He's evil, but his whole plan to gain power was by being a legitimate head of state and convincing the galaxy they'd be safer with his form of order. The Final Order is literally just Palpatine... destroying the galaxy which serves no purpose for him. It's like if they tested the Death Star by shooting every planet at once. There's no galaxy to subjugate if everyone's dead.
I concur on all of these statements. Jared Leto is fabulous but his Joker was... well I'll save my comments and be kind. He did the job he was hired to do. It's not his fault the job was superfluous. And all these others? Wasted screen time. Let's see who else can go...
Not so Sunny
Sunshine. What I loved so much about the first two acts was that there was no villain, it was just the characters having to face the consequences for their understandable, human mistakes as they realized that their journey has turned into a suicide mission.
Then they just completely shift in the 3rd act, introduce an almost supernatural villain and go into full-on B-movie slasher mode. I get the symbolism they were going for but the way they handled it just hurt the movie so much for me.
At the end of "Pay It Forward," when the kid stabs the main kid. I recall the movie being perfectly wrapped up, they could have rolled the end credits, but then they just open a scene where the main kid is walking and gets stabbed by another kid. It didn't add anything to the plot or story development or anything, seemed to just be a tearjerker to plug in there for some extra drama points.
Not a movie, but "Orange is the new Black". Piper just had to sit in there for 18 months, but then she started trying to sell underwear and crap. I stopped watching after that.
Fant4stic. All of the conflicts and villains were unnecessary. Doctor Doom had no effect on the story. He was just there so they could give the audience some sort of pay off for sitting for hours waiting. The whole issue between The Thing and Mr. Fantastic could have been the point of the movie and if it were I might have had a good time, but because they draw so much attention to it without resolving it or going deep into it, it was very unnecessary. The entire movie is unnecessary now that I think about it.
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The recent Mary Poppins movie had a villain that just didn't need to exist. The first film had an antagonist which was the bank.
There was an antagonist, but it wasn't a villain. The difference being that an antagonist is simply someone who opposes the protagonist in ideals or in some other form. A villain is someone who actively goes against the protagonist and is a threat in some way shape or form. Every story needs an antagonist, but not every story needs a villain.
Yes. Yes and yes. Erase them all. Some of these films were already too long. And the others you can tell the writers were at a loss for an idea. Next time... focus on the needs of the story guys.
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Not everyone can wield the power of Mjolnir – the mighty hammer forged by dwarfs associated with Thor in Nordic mythology.
The hammer is considered to be a valuable treasure since the Thunder God wields it for good to defend heaven and earth from destructive giants.
Although the unworthy have been known to be able to lift Mjolnir, only Thor can wield it with ease. But would he be the only one with the power to do so?
Curious to hear input from strangers, Redditor PokeHobnobGod21 asked:
"Mjolnir can only be lifted by the worthy. Which fictional or even real life characters could lift it?"
From The Last Airbender
The Avatar characters can manipulate any of the four elements, water, earth, fire, or air, but what about Mjolnir?
The Powerful Firebender
Yes. Mjölner's concept of worthy is defined by the culture of Asgard and Odin. For example its bearer is allowed to, and should even be readily willing to kill if justified by the values of which it is bound. So I think Uncle Iroh may be the best answer: he is wise, he wants peace and embraces harmony but is willing to be a fierce adversary if absolutely necessary.
Some others mentioned like Winnie the Pooh might be very pure but might not fit the purpose of Mjölner the weapon, at all.
"whats the hammer for, uncle"
"'Oooh, that's the mighty Mjolnir, weapon of the mighty Thor. Buuuut, It also makes a great footrest' sips tea 'ahhh. Zuko you really should relax more.'"
"I think Zuko could by the series end. Dude went full redemption and even went against his family to do the right thing."
Lord Of The Rings
J. R. R. Tolkien brought wonderful characters to life. Surely one of them are worthy enough to lift Mjolnir.
The Ranger Of The North
What About Sam?
"Definitely Sam too."
"Sam Gamgee could carry Mr. Frodo, he could damn well carry Mjolnir."
"Yeah, but he'd only use it to smash potatoes."
He Appeared In A 1934 Poem
"Tom Bombadil -- but he wouldn't use it."
"Ben Tennyson, Just imagine if he used both Mjolnir and his Omnitrix at the same time."
Cornucopia Of Contenders
Redditors mentioned a plethora of other characters from other worlds.
"Colonel Jack O'Neill from Stargate SG-1. He's a brave warrior, but does what he sees as the right thing to do even if it bucks authority. He's also a kind man with a big heart and welcomes people who genuinely do want to reform their ways from doing heinous things."
"Also he's already on good terms with the Asgard and buddies with Thor, plus has a natural ability to interact with ancient alien technology due to advanced genetics."
"Also Luke Skywalker in the Original Trilogy."
"Buffy would. Hell, there is an equivalent of it in S5, and she wields it. Buffy is a warrior, and a true selfless hero."
"edit: I'm talking about the hammer in S5. The one she used to smash Glory in The Gift. Not the Scythe in S7 which is for the Slayer, not 'the worthy.'"
Princess Diana of Themyscira
"I believe Wonder Woman is canonically worthy of Mjolnir."
"Yeah, during the 'DC vs Marvel' crossover, Wonder Woman had the opportunity to wield it against Storm. If I remember the scene right, she picked it up, stood for a moment in awe of how easy it would be to win that way, and immediately decided that using Mjolnir to win wouldn't be worthy of her."
"She put it down and proceeded to beat Storm in a much more closely contested, and more honest, fight."
According to The Local, archaeologists discovered what they believed to be Mjolnir embedded in the granite bedrock of Södermalm Island in Stockholm as part of a tunnel excavation to redirect commuter trains.
Experts believed it was a complex alloy since there was no oxidation on the surface of the divine instrument. But just, what if Mjolnir was not just merely a myth?
If extracted, what mortal among us do you think is worthy of wielding Mjolnir?
After we've watched a movie, it can be difficult to imagine the film as a project that took months or years to finally culminate into the product we see at the theater or on our television.
But it was built and hacked together, piece by piece.
First, it was an idea, then maybe a sketch in a journal, then some dialogue made it to paper. Eventually, it was written, money was raised from a production studio, and a crew was hired.
And of course, actors were cast to portray the role.
Often, we leave the film unable to imagine anybody else playing the characters we just witnessed. What once only existed as a script, stuck in the world of words, has become forever connected to flesh and blood people.
Sometimes, though, those flesh and blood human actors feel so misaligned for the characters they're meant to play that we can conceive of the film before it was acted and shot.
And frankly, we can see where they went wrong.
666Fu**ThEwOrLd666 asked, "What actor/actress was completely 100% wrong for the role?"
Sometimes it comes down to physical or personal essence. Especially when the film adapts source material like a book or well-known story, audiences have a very clear image of characters in their heads.
Upending those images can be a disappointing shock.
"Colin Farrell as Alexander The Great. As one of my old University professors once said, 'I wouldn't follow that guy to the end of my DRIVEWAY.' " -- thecyberbard
"You can't talk about Oliver Stone's Alexander without mentioning that the mad man has 4 different directors cuts of the film" -- Preparation_Asleep
"Joel McHale as Roy in the ill-fated US remake of The IT Crowd."
"We want a scruffy and misanthropic IT nerd, so let's get an actor known foorrr... charisma and confidence? OK."
Lean, Yes, All the Others? Not At All
"Why the fu** was Jessie Isenberg cast as Lex Luthor of all fu**ing things"
"All depictions of him are of a tall, bald, and lean businessman"
"No disrespect for the actor, I'd take such a high paying job too, but whoever thought of casting him is a clown"
What Could Have Been
"Two that come to mind but weren't cast were in Lord of the Rings. Sean Connery was offered the role of Gandalf but turned it down because he couldn't understand the script."
"Could you imagine how bad of a casting decision that would have been now that we've seen Sir Ian McKellen in the role? Or Nicolas Cage as Aragorn?"
"Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. Reacher's supposed to be 6+ feet tall, 240+ pounds, basically a brick sh**house of a man. And someone pulling the strings said yeah, that totally sounds like Tom Cruise to me!" -- sandrodi
"Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. If you've read the book he is the exact physical opposite of the character as written." -- gardengnome15
Other casting decisions verge on the problematic. White people are cast to play non-White characters and figures.
The result feels ethically icky and just plain bewildering.
How Was That Necessary
"Jon Voight as a snake hunter in Anaconda is fine......but him as a PARAGUAYAN snake hunter?.....just......why lol" -- birdperson_012
"Because he learned his accent from his maid. Who was probably not even from Paraguay."
"Fun movie, but he was ridiculous in it" -- shaft6969
Not the Face I Picture
"John Wayne as Genghis Khan (The Conqueror). That is just wrong on so many levels, I don't know where to start." -- ceallaig
" 'Hello TARTAR WOMAN. I AM TIMOGEN...pilgrim' " -- Skrivus
Others not only criticized a casting decision as it happened, but proposed their own alternative. These fans had full confidence in their grasp of the character.
Just a Tease
"Jafar in the new Aladdin. He wasn't believable or menacing and way too young."
"Plus for much of his screen time he's standing next to Navid Neghaban, who would have been a MUCH better choice."
A Clear Alternative
"Kevin Hart as Roland in the upcoming Borderlands movie. Everyone who knows anything about Borderlands will agree with me."
"Terry Crews should be playing Roland. He's big, has comedic chops, and can play the no-nonsense straight shooter BADA** when everything else is wild."
"The actress who played Jene Grey in the new X-Men movies. She couldn't carry the role at all and it really dulled the Dark Phoenix storyline."
"It's a damn shame because they had Jessica Chastain in the movie and she would have been excellent cast as Grey/Phoenix."
Unfortunately, we'll be dealing with poor casting decisions like this for as long as movies continue to be made.
The confluence of the big name actors of the day and the films produced in that same moment can tend to stick square pegs into circular holes.
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Be it a novel, play, television show, or movie, it has a protagonist.
Because, frankly, it needs one. The main character provides the lens through which we watch the action, and their emotional journey through some conflict is what drives the whole plot.
But let's face it, the main plot isn't automatically the audience's favorite part of the story. Humans being humans, we love animated people full of relatable quirks and entertaining outbursts--true characters.
And sometimes, the creator of the story has far more freedom with side characters whose every experience won't chaotically veer the plot off into different directions every second.
Nonetheless, we often walk away most thrilled by those side characters above all else.
Necessary-Spinach 182 asked, "What side character deserved more spotlight than the main character?"
For some Redditors, they wanted more light shed on a side character's back story.
Given only a fascinating tidbit that offered a window into a whole unexplored world, they imagined entire other movies where the side character could be a star with a plot of their own.
A Cat With Plenty to Say
"This is gonna sound weird but Salem from the original Sabrina the Teenage Witch. His character was just a goofy talking cat most of the time and the few times we saw his backstory it was really interesting."
"I just feel like he was underutilized but I haven't seen the new series so they might be paying more attention to him."
Best Voice, Best Story, Biggest Snub
"Santana Lopez from Glee - she could do 'Don't Rain on my Parade' but Rachel Berry could never do 'Valerie' or 'Me against the Music'"
Also her story line was by far the most interesting, her arc was the most fully realised, and she had snark for days (RIP Naya Rivera)"
"Tormund Giantsbane" -- Aykhancho
"He was my favorite character! And he really reminds me of my brother" -- natsugrayerza
"Agreed but Brianne of Tarth has to be there absolutely. that is a loose end that's going to haunt me for the rest of my days" -- iCantliveOnCrumbsOfD
Plenty of Katniss' Out There
"I wanted to know more background info about the other tributes in the Hunger Games. It was in Katniss' POV so it wasn't that prominent, but it would still be interesting." -- GiseleDamas
"Me too. I would have loved to see stuff from Cato's perspective in the first movie. And how the kids from the higher districts where forced to train for the games ever since they where children." -- JackSparrowscompass
"I thought I was gonna hate the prequel but I actually ended up loving it. Lucy Gray Baird is an incredibly interesting character. Snow is still a psychopath but that isn't exactly shocking" -- smol_lydia
"I'm not sure how many people watched Ben 10 before the reboot but I feel like Ben's cousin Gwen deserves some recognition."
"People who watched the show tend to focus more on Ben and his aliens since they are the main characters of the show, but Gwen deserves equal recognition because she's been a very loyal cousin who is willing to do everything she could to defend and fight along with his cousin at all times."
"She went through serious character development going from a kid who was jealous and liking to pick on her cousin and then grew up into this bada** who proved to be much useful whenever she's not around her cousin. Kevin and Grandpa Max deserve credit as well."
"Kevin and Ben pretty much had one of the best enemy-turned ally relationships in a show and Grandpa Max was pretty much a father and mentor to Ben who took what he learned from him in order to become a better hero."
"The thing I love most about this show is how tackles character development well and yes the side characters were very interesting and important in their own way."
"Zelda needs her own game about the missing years in OoT when Link is gone and she becomes Sheik and leads an insurgency with Impa as her Alfred." -- Wazula42
"I mean it is called Legend of Zelda. They should definitely make a game about her. It would be awesome!" -- Monkey6518
Probing the Depths Of Space and Time
"Doc Brown from Back to the Future. He's had much more adventures off camera than Marty did on camera. The thirty years between 1955 and 1985."
"The unknown period he was adventuring in time and space off camera between when he disappeared from the
Twin Lone Pine mall and his reappearance at Marty's house at the end of the first film."
"His time in the 1880s before and after Marty's arrival and departure. His subsequent building of a new time travel machine in a locomotive and his adventures after the series finale."
"There's a lot of untold stories of Doc Brown that I'd love to see on the silver screen."
"Spencer from iCarly" -- Agroskater
"He was definitely the best character in the whole show. I'd probably watch a series with him and Freddie in it if they did one. The fencing episode with them was one of my favourites :)" -- ArtemisFowlbooks_07
A Small Business Spinoff
"I binged True Blood recently so it's in front of my brain: Eric Northman and Pam. Sookie got annoying. Bill was an a**hole."
"One of the plot points of the show was that they ran afoul of the vampire authority and were sentenced to run a video rental store in the 1980s and 90s. I would 100% watch Eric and Pam run a video rental store."
Others highlighted the characters who always managed to steal the hearts and laughs of viewers every time they appeared on screen.
These characters were simply so entertaining that audiences always could have used some more.
Line After Line
'Falstaff from Henry IV."
"Dude was putting out banger lines every scene. So interesting they had to kill him between plays because everyone was like 'IDGAF about anyone not named Falstaff.'"
"Shoutout to all the Shakespeare and literary nerds out there."
"Andy from Parks and Rec, his shenanigans could have easily been a spin-off series with April." -- misslemom9
"If you're going to do a Parks and Rec spinoff, and you can get Crisp Rat back for it, you have to go for the Agent Macklin: FBI feature film. Anything else is a waste." -- WhatVengeanceMeans
A Significant Late Addition
"Niles Crane. I don't know if the show would work with him as the main character without significant modifications, but he's consistently my favorite part of nearly every episode." -- merupu8352
"It's amazing to think that they had no plans for Frasier to have a brother when they were developing the show."
"It's only because someone in casting saw David Hyde Pierce's headshot and said 'hey, this guy looks like he could be Frasier's brother' and they gave him a screentest on a whim that they realised what a goldmine of a concept that was."
"I honestly doubt Frasier would have lasted more than a season if Niles wasn't a character." -- jetsam_honking
And finally, some characters only appeared for a single moment or two, but really turned heads during the brief snippet.
Sometimes it only takes one amazing joke or a heartfelt moment to leave the whole crowd wondering what could have been.
We've All Quoted It
"frozone from the incredibles" -- thatswhat_shesaid1
"Where he can find his motherfu**ing super suit" -- derthert123
"Absolutely agree with this. He had their back in both movies, a great friend to the family. They just didn't give him enough." -- makeme84
One of Many Pursuers
"James Norrington" -- myhamsterisajerk
"Norrington seriously had so much potential. Then he met Bootstrap Bill. We all know how that ended. I kinda wish we saw more of him when he was temporarily a pirate." -- StarWarsCrazy1
"COMMODORE Norrington, as he is now known." -- hazzzaa85
Jockeying For Position
"Sarah Lynn in Bojack Horseman."
"Plus the criminally underrated Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface."
The Promise of a Song
"I would have LOVED if Mulan 1998 focused more on the friendship between Mulan, Ling, Yao, and Chien-po. I really liked how they seemed to bond after Mulan got the arrow and the three started including her in things, like joking around each other during A Girl Worth Fighting For."
"And how they immediately followed Mulan when they said she had an idea. I wish there was more screentime for the four of them. Their dynamics are so fun."
Think back to your favorite movies and shows. Can you recall a character that really stole the show for you? For me, it's without a doubt Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
His relentless anxious fidgeting is the closest I have to a spirit animal.
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In this time of COVID one of the great things the world has learned is that artists and the work of an artist is essential. Maybe not as life saving as our medical personal and grocery store clerks who literally kept people alive, but art has had a massive hand in keeping people sane. And one of life's finest artistic gifts is literature. Books change lives. Their stories and characters and tales of fierce humanity and fragile love have given many people a purpose to go on. That's why so many books are so often reread and passed onto loved ones. its always fun to spread the wealth.Redditor u/maplesyrupdeficiency wanted to what literature we need to get to immediately so can enhance our lives by asking.... What book have you read that has forever changed the way you view or live life?
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Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky. Jeez, it's such a weird-but-in-a-good-way book that really makes you reflect on morality.
All is Possible.....
I read The Phantom Tollbooth at a young age & it changed the way I viewed the world.
One of my favorite quotes from the book: "So many things are possible just as long as you don't know they're impossible."
Yessss, I love that book so much! I remember the cookies shaped like letters when the seller explained how vowels taste the best which is why people use them the most, and letters like Z and Q are kinda bitter so people don't like saying them.
The boy who floated with his head at his adult height and his feet got closer to the ground as he got taller The worlds tallest dwarf (not to be confused with the worlds shortest giant, the worlds fattest thin man, or the worlds thinnest fat man). So much excellent wordplay and Alice-In-Wonderland type logic. It absolutely shaped the way I see the world today.
The Count of Monte Cristo. I have no idea what it did to me but after I finished it I knew I was no longer the same person.
I don't know about those guys, but I became wiser at the end of it. Like the book taught me the art of patience and planning and seeing it through. It's like I became a century old monk having that final epiphany. And I don't even mean using this skill in a malicious way. It just literally taught me to be patient and that has freed me from a lot of aggravation.
Jacked....the shining remix GIFGiphy
The Shining made me realize I need to do something about my alcoholism. The self sabotaging; the crappy marriage; the excuses....
Jack Torrence is a massive piece of crap and I was identifying with him.
Night by Elie Wiesel.
Came here to say this one. It is my favorite book and it is so haunting. It really pushed me at a very young age to learn more about the Holocaust and what people went through. I went so far as to travel to Auschwitz myself two years ago. Powerful and painful but so important for all to educate themselves on what really happened.
Leaving a Mark
Of Mice and Men... seriously scarring but effective.
I'm a freshman and for virtual classes we got assigned to read it this week. I still haven't but i guess now i know what i have to look forward to.
I'd never read it before, but by random chance i read it on Monday. It's very short, probably only took 2 or 3 hours. I was amazed at how good it was for such a short book, and how much i cared about Lenny. I guessed the ending about 2 pages early which made it really sad to read. 10/10 would recommend. I'm reading catcher in the rye now. So far, not nearly as good.
All that is Fleeting....
Man's Search for Meaning....
"...everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way." -Viktor E. Frankl
In my opinion, it is a must read.
For those looking for "meaning" during all of this. Every man (and woman) has a meaning in their life. It may change from time to time but you find what your supposed to do and work towards it.
By the Numbers....Zach Galifianakis Reaction GIFGiphy
Introduction to Linear Algebra.
After the first chapter, I decided I was going to law school.
Ender's game. Summed up, it's not about winning, it's the way we win.
What affected me the most about it was Ender's incredible empathy. The connection between understanding and love. The cost of winning - destroying a part of yourself each time you destroy your enemies.
There's a quote that just stuck with me for all these years:
"In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it's impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them."
It just spoke to my heart. I think about it a lot.
Like a Knife....david lynch come at me bro GIFGiphy
Dune. The pragmatism is real. It cuts through politics and religion like a hot knife through butter. It's like reading The Prince but applied to a very cool and original sci-fi world.