Redditor h-gotfred wanted to hear from the over 50 crowd, so they asked:
"To you Redditors aged 50+, what's something you genuinely believe young people haven't realized yet, but could enrich their lives or positively impact their outlook on life?"
There is so much to know about life.
And we have to age to learn it.
So let's chat...
Be Happy
just married love GIFGiphy"Marriage/relationships should be fun, and happy. Life is hard, things get tough. Find someone that makes the tough times easier, not harder."
Inevitable-Mine6466
"Piggybacking off this and saying, even the happiest marriages get into arguments. It's not a reason to leave."
J3sush8sm3
Battles...
"Not everything that you disagree with deserves an argument. Pick your battles and let trivial things slide."
hail2theKingbabee
"To echo this: Not everyone you disagree with is 'wrong.' They are simply operating with different information. You can disagree with someone on an issue and still value the person. Don't let one issue define your entire relationship with another person."
A_Socratic_Argument
The End
"If you die, your employer will have your job posted before you are buried. Remember that when making work/life choices."
Justin9314
"I started my career at corporate headquarters for a large insurance company. I was doing GREAT, but I just didn’t like the industry. I applied for a job at a major university and someone took a chance on me and gave me the position (transitioning from for-profit to non-profit is notoriously hard)."
"I made less money over the course of my career certainly but I wasn’t on poverty wages by any means. But I remember about 5 years in, one of my old VPs was in town and we got together. His comment was 'We miss you, but you look so much happier, the psychic income is showing.' Insightful guy."
Reynyan
The Truth
"2 things I will be eternally grateful to my grandfather for instilling in me..."
"Failure is not an end state unless it is where you choose to stop. He loved to quote that line by Churchill whenever something didn't work out for me, Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm."
"Honesty is the most powerful tool you can use to define yourself. Admit your mistake, frankly and honestly. The truth always comes out in the end no matter how big or small and it doesn't get better with age. You can give back something you steal, and you can help those you hurt but once they brand you a liar, it's all you will ever be."
iskandar-
Be Quiet
Golden Girls Rose GIF by TV LandGiphy"Unless you don't mind hearing EEEEEEEEEEEE like all the time day and night, use hearing protection in loud situations. Tinnitus is a bi*ch."
revnhoj
Take care of your ears.
One of life's greatest lessons!!!
Live by the Moon
bart simpson maggie GIFGiphy"Wear sunscreen."
nilecrane
"I just had a quick look at my 50-year-old upper chest, frequently exposed to the sun in my youth, and compared it to my 50-year-old belly, which has always been clothed and covered (I have never liked two-piece swimsuits). What a difference!"
HootieRocker59
Passions
"Take a genuine interest in what other people have to say, ask them follow-up questions about their passions in life. Don’t just talk about yourself, or wait for your turn to talk. That’s how you have a conversation, and build a relationship."
MayIServeYouWell
"Sometimes you gotta be careful with that. Pay attention if the other person is doing that too, it's important for you to share about your life. It can be kind of lonely when you know so much about your friends, but they don't know about you."
jacarelunar
Practice makes Perfect
"Every skill takes determined practice to master. I see my young friends/relatives try and give up on so many things because 'they weren't very good at it.' If you keep doing that, you'll never be very good at anything."
EarhornJonesI
"I love cooking - and find it easy and relaxing. I have hit a point where I can make several dishes that I can honestly say are far superior to what I could get at a restaurant. I love delighting my family and friends with what I cook."
"But the truth is - I've prepared thousands of dishes. I've practiced for 40+ years. I have f**ked up every single type of food there is at least once. I've burnt things. I've undercooked chicken. I failed to emulsify things that should have been emulsified. I forgot to set the timer. I've added too much salt. I chopped when I should have torn. I did all of the wrong things at some point. And because of all of these things, I can walk into any kitchen and make something delicious."
NewSummerOrange
63
"I’d say invest in your health by regularly exercising. My wife got me into running when we were in our twenties, and it has been a big part of our lives ever since (I’m 63). Nothing crazy, no marathons, we don’t time ourselves or follow a strict training plan, we just pick a route, go at our own pace, and have fun. We still go 3-4 miles, 3-4x per week."
"I also started working out at the gym 3x a week with free weights in my 30s, and have been doing it ever since. I’m no Schwarzenegger, believe me, but I can still work around the house, move furniture, shovel snow and have fun tossing a ball around with the kids without injuring or exhausting myself. Between aerobic fitness and weights, I’ve been able to stay remarkably healthy my entire adult life, knock on wood. It’s also been great for my mental health and managing stress."
"You don’t have to go nuts and set unreasonably strict requirements for exercise goals or diet that a normal person can’t possibly maintain - just do the best you can, make exercising a few times per week a habit, eat a reasonable diet (avoid fried stuff, eat fruit and veggies, lay off the sweets), and 40 years later you’ll really thank yourself, believe me!"
lanky_planky
Plan Ahead
Make It Rain Money GIF by yvngswagGiphy"Debt can really ruin your life. If you want to take on a lot of it, make sure you have a good plan and run it by a lot of smart people first."
vanityklaw
Debt. Everyone should learn about avoiding debt as early as possible.
This whole list should be taught in Universities.
Redditor kaizen1989 asked:
"Which cartoon character becomes more relatable,the older you get?"
Party Poopers
"The overly cautious fun suckers in any Disney movie."
"Zazu from The Lion King, Sebastian from The Little Mermaid, and Bagheera from Jungle Book come to mind."
- SheenzMe
"Zazu has a line where he's complaining to Simba, 'The sooner we get to the watering hole, the sooner we can leave!'"
"Do I now identify with Zazu on a spiritual level rather than just childishly thinking he's a killjoy?"
"Yes."
- poppyfairy
GiphyWe're All Depressed
"Eeyore. I'm tired, depressed and grey most of the time."
- Striking-Ferret8216
"And yet, when people are depending on you, you try to help. (Eeyore is my favorite character)"
- Gen-Jinjur
We all have annoying coworkers
"Benson from regular show. After becoming a supervisor/manager, you start to realize how much the little things employees do add up and make you absolutely hate your life"
- ostrichual
"The clip where benson has a breakdown when Mordecai and Rigby spent all night inside an arcade. When he said how this job is all he has left. That sh*t hit me nowadays…."
- Dinobob
Propane and Propane Accessories
"Definitely Hank Hill. Especially now that I have to listen to a guy I know talk about conspiracy theories all the time. I've even got my own damn Dale."
- AstroWorldSecurity
"I love that clip of Hank finally getting fed up and calling out Dale’s BS. Maybe it will give you some peace."
- TheRavenSayeth
"Dale you giblet head, we live in Texas!"
- Daikataro
Hank Hill Smh GIFGiphy"Everything Has a Beginning and an End"
"Jet Black from Cowboy Bebop."
- Prank_Owl
"The absolute exhaustion in his every syllable"
- puttyarrobro
"Lol he's only 35."
- NoThxBtch
"35 going on 50. Seriously though, Jet was an 'old soul' at 35."
- Orome2
Totally Misunderstood
"The Grinch. He just wanted to chill with his dog in peace and quiet."
- -eDgAR-
"'The grinch didn't hate Christmas, he hated people. And that is fair. -Jim Carrey (paraphrased)"
- plz2meatyu
"I have told my wife this. They ostracized him as a child and basically made him an outcast. Why? He looked different. He was a nice kid who just wanted to fit in. He is mercilessly picked on until he is old enough to live on his own. He is so mentally destroyed that he lives in a cave filled with trash because that's what he feels his self worth is. No one has ever been nice to him. He is suspicious when Cindy Lou tries to be nice to him. He wants to rejoin society, I think, but had no reason to believe it'll be a good experience. He hates Whoville and all the residents because they've treated him awful his whole life. Why do they get to have a merry Christmas, screw them. But it's the grinch, and not that town, that is the villain."
- RoccoTaco_Dog
Every Parent Ever
"Stu Pickles"
- TrickBoom414
"The chocolate pudding scene rings true to this day."
- SomwhatCharmedLife
"'Why on earth are you making chocolate pudding?' 'Because I've lost control of my life.'"
- Brain_lessV2
Sweet Solitude Shouldn't Be Too Much To Ask
"Shrek. F**k outta my swamp, I just want to enjoy my solitude with my wife."
- Onomatopaella
Ohana
"Nani from Lilo and Stitch."
- jestagoon
"Every time I think about how hard Nani had it, I remember the shelf of surfing trophies in her room. Girl could have probably made some cash as a pro surfer but had to shift to a more stable job as a waitress because that’s what Lilo needed."
- Threspian
lilo and stitch lol GIF by DisneyGiphyMaybe He Had a Point
"King Triton from the little mermaid—yes, he overreacted by destroying her stuff, but like. He did also have a point for being upset with Ariel’s irresponsibility and sneaking out."
- ctortan
"Plus he had spent his time and magic hiding the Atlanteans and their world. she’s just like 'f**kkkk it I’m horrrrnnnyyyyy. I’m gonna undo thousands of years of hard work and sacrifices my family has made.'"
- duchessisboss
The characters that we related to as kids often come to seem silly or irresponsible as we get older, and those that we thought of as stuffy or overbearing can seem much more reasonable when we understand what handling real adult responsibilities is really like.
Reddit user nonameuser21 asked:
"What’s a thing that makes you think 'Wow, I’m really getting older'?"
Epic Sound Effects
"Everything creaks and what doesn't creak, hurts."
- insane_noises
"Everybody creaks, ....sometimes."
- SlightComplaint
"When the day is long & the night... The night is spent getting up several times to peeee"
-gliitch0xFF
orgy GIFGiphyCDs
"The CD turned 40 today."
- DHammer79
"The centre spindle hole of the CD is based on the size of a dutch coin that doesn't even exist anymore due to the introduction of the Euro. My useless fact even became obsolete."
-StarFaeire
What's My Age Again?
"When you have to try work out how old you are."
- phackeu
"I had one of those moments earlier this year. I'm 28 and a friend said, 'You're what, 25... right?'And I said 'yeah...' then I sat there trying to figure it out since I hadn't thought much about my age in years. Basically since before covid."
- maltesemania
Don't Care
"Slowly starting to give less f**ks"
- Basic-Basket-1006
"Plus insecurities fading. I am who I am, that’s it that’s all"
- Skkaaishere
They're How Old?!
"Full grown adults who were born when I was a full grown adult."
-AmyHeartsYou
"I think to witness meaningfully all the stages of development of another human being makes a big contribution to self awareness that you simply don't have at 20"
- joelthomastr
My Music Is Classic Now
"When I hear Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Everclear, etc on CLASSIC ROCK RADIO 🤬😡🤬"
- beigereige
""OLD SCHOOL radio"... plays TLC and Sugar Ray"
- three-sense
It's All Relative
"I'm older now than my best friend's dad was when I met him."
- doyourselfafavor
"Well, this made me realize I'm older than my mom was when I was born, and I was her 7th kid."
- Pillsbernie
Oh Snap
"About a year or so ago I went to put on a clean shirt after a shower, as per usual I went to "snap" the shirt first and I hurt my shoulder."
"Couldn't turn my head to the right for like 2 days."
- therewerentanynames
"I had to take two days off work earlier in the year when I threw my back out."
"Everyone kept asking what I did to throw it out. I sneezed."
- Bulky-Sheepherder-22
It Really Was
"Talking to people who think the 80s was a long time ago. I have to do the math in my head each time to verify that it really was a long time ago."
- OogusMacBoogus
"Someone posted in another thread today about something "really old, from the 90s' 😩"
- VLC31
time watch GIF by Chris KläffordGiphyThey Can't Be That Old
"I work with a kid who was born in 2005. Nobody born in 2005 should be older than a toddler."
- squaredistrict2213
Growing old is just a part of life, but we could all do without the sudden reminders that were doing it too.
Reddit user morphgb706 asked
"What's a middle life crisis for people who could never afford a sports car?"
So let's get it, readers.
Let's find out what's giving "mid-life crisis in the middle of a financial and sociopolitical catastrophe."
Air Guitar Is Cheaper
"Buying an electric guitar without even knowing how to play. Then hanging it on the wall in your mancave because you gave up after a couple weeks."
- FonzieScheme_
"I recently hauled my bass guitar out of retirement when I saw all the vast storehouse of glorious YouTube tutorials that take the Guitar Hero/Rockband model to make learning to play a real instrument on your own super interesting and engaging. Not repetitive and frustrating as it was back in the 90s! So, if anyone out there has a sweet axe gathering dust, plug her in and tune* her up."
"*Fender has a free tuning app. It’s a million times better than the sh*tty electric tuner you paid too much for back in 1997 and needs a 9v battery and a 1/4in to 3.5mm adapter to use."
- sadhandjobs
"My dad has thousands of dollars in guitar equipment, (And I mean like, multiple Fenders, Gibsons, and I think he even has a Rickenbacker.) so like 10 electric guitars and some cheap acoustics, a ton of pedals, amps, etc. And he only went to guitar classes for about a year, then proceeded to never practice after he stopped going to the classes, resulting in only knowing how to play basic chords and part of one song. So this is very, very accurate."
- LadyDalama
Mask Guitar GIFGiphyArcade For Me And ...
"I just built an arcade machine in my man cave for the friends I no longer get to hang with."
"Does that count?"
- ToyDingo
"I turned part of my garage into a chill spot and set up all the old systems I've accumulated over the years; Dreamcast, Saturn, N64, Atari 2600, SNES, etc."
"As I finished and sat back at what I created I thought 'All ready for me and the boys...when that will be I do not know..'."
- snowshoeBBQ
"Man I feel that."
"I setup the arcade with all the old skool games we used to play. All the Tekkens, NBA Jam, NFL Blitz, etc. Then sat back and realized "I haven't seen the boyz in 2 years...:*("
- ToyDingo
Bread Making
"Getting heavily into making sourdough bread."
- nullrecord
"It’s the second most talked about topic my dad has. The first is a game called Sea of Thieves."
- RainbowShitsnGiggles
"I'm 35 and I just got super into bread baking lol. It's cheap, simple ingredients, yet so deceptively nuanced and I love it. Also you get fresh bread!"
- LeonesgettingLARGER
"There’s a guy like that at my work. Bakes bread as a hobby build a wood fired oven in his back yard"
- Gearhead_guy
"This is an extra funny thing to me. I’d worked in a bakery makeing sourdough in my late 20’s. Just a few months before the pandemic i got back into it. Imagine my surprise when everyone is suddenly making sourdough. I felt like a bread hipster lol"
- maximum_overdumb
Kneading Brant Daugherty GIF by Hallmark ChannelGiphyGet The Band Back Together
"Trying to start a band, even better if it's a punk band."
- Muaddib930
"Lol I’m turning 40 in a couple months and was just thinking I should get a band together!"
- PATT3RN_AGA1NST-US3R
"I turn 40 in august and tuned my bass the other day after 15 years of neglect. Oi, oi, oi!!"
- sadhandjobs
"Punk is an EXCELLENT option if u have no money AND no natural musical ability."
- Batholomy
"Damn, I'm 38 and just started playing post-rock with some friends. Even worse is realising that post-rock is the new dad rock"
- pselodux
Fitness
"I'm 40 and in better shape than I ever was as a teenager."
"Start lifting."
- FnAardvark
"I got into boxing in my late 30’s, and can confirm 40 year old me is in better shape than teenage me"
- notorious_tcb
"Reddit acts like once you hit 30 your body immediately breaks down and there is no hope. Like a line is crossed."
"I’m going to the gym and have a better body at 37 than I ever had at 19."
- Noggin-a-Floggin
Bounty Hunter Dog GIF by DefyTVGiphyDifferent Kind Of Smokeing
"Getting really into smoking meat"
- ooperbang6
"Literally sitting next to my meat filled smoker right now."
- monkey_boy45
"I just wanna grill for God’s sake"
- A_KULT_KILLAH
"Bruh, just smoked chicken thighs last night after doing a garlic, thyme, and savory brine. Bourbon barrel chips."
"If this is what's left of life for me, I'll take it. Some of the best food I've ever had has been from my ceramic smoker."
- N0SF3RATU
"Hahaha that's me. There's a 12lbs brisket in my freezer I have absolutely no plan for, it was just on sale and I'm not not gonna get it."
- TheClayroo
"Listen here you little sh*t.."
- Th3_Accountant
Video Games Cooking GIF by Far Cry 6GiphyLike Joseph
"At 47, I just started woodworking. In retrospect, it would have been cheaper to just buy the damn sports car."
- ubeor
"I always wanted to do this! My grandpa had the most amazing barn filled with wood, table saws, you name it. It smelled amazing of course. He made beautiful furniture and always had Mt Dew and snickers ice cream bars in the fridge :)"
- aWormhatForVermhat
"Its like I always tell my spouse "Why buy this for $400 when I could easily build it for $800"
- rachman77
Lisa Simpson Episode 3 GIF by The SimpsonsGiphyLandscape Architecture
"A perfectly manicured lawn."
- MPC55_
"I tell you hwhat"
- RoseyDove323
"Why does anyone do drugs when they could mow a lawn"
- chief_dlitt
"I didn't expect to be attacked like this. Especially on Father's Day."
- TokyoKazama
"FUGGGgG!"
"Was just admiring mine on my deck as I read this. I hate you!"
- Kevherd
"Since buying my first house, I have got to say. There is something supremely satisfying about having the nicest lawn on the street. I got a compliment on my lawn when I moved in from a random on the street , and ever since I have been chasing that high."
"I spent $600 on soil improver and weed and feed 3 months ago, just to make sure my reign of lawn supremacy can continue"
- PanzerBiscuit
Working 9-5
"As a lifelong slacker who has gone through job after job and just generally been a permanent hot mess, my mid life crisis seems to be finding joy and peace in having a 9-5 job and health insurance."
- bacchic_frenzy
"Dude, that's me right now!"
"I finally realized I want stability and comfort. All the partying and crazy projects and boozing, women, etc. were really just masking the pain of not having stability. I finally have a regular job and I kind of love it."
"Sh*ts crazy."
- chairhats
"The ol switcheroo"
- AgoraiosBum
"Mid life tranquility"
- tuckerdogs71
"I got a new job across the country in a city I’ve always been interested in. Despite knowing no one there. Mix it up is my midlife crisis."
- PrayForMojo_
dolly parton telephone GIF by London Theatre DirectGiphyMidlife Awakening.
"A midlife crisis or 'midlife awakening' isn't so much about buying new 'toys'."
"It's acknowledging the fact you have more years/days behind you than ahead of you."
"Some people react to this realization by creating "bucket lists" and trying to accomplish everything on their list whether it is practical or not."
"In other instances, money and timing were the reasons why a person didn't get what they dreamed of while younger but now they are in a position to have it "society" tells them it's too late."
"The pricing of the 2022 Chevrolet Corvette starts at $60,900 for the coupe and $68,400 for the convertible for the base. Not many 20 (something year olds) can afford such a car!"
"However, a guy in his 40s is probably in a better position to buy that car but he's told he's going through a "midlife crisis" when the reality is he can finally afford his dream car!"
"We tell people at their high school graduation to never give up on their dreams."
"However, within the "fine print" is an expiration date in which society expects you to abandon them."
"Life is a personal journey. If there is something you've always wanted to do go for it."
" 'The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.' - W.M. Lewis"
" 'Never allow waiting to become a habit. Live your dreams and take risks. Life is happening now.'- Paulo Coelho"
" 'The world may not owe you anything, but you owe yourself the world!'- Kevin Darné"
"Best wishes!"
- lovealert911
Be honest, did any of you make this feel personally attacked?
I know it wasn't just me...
Redditor iamalsopizza asked:
"What did your body tell you that you had to absolutely stop doing?"
That 24/7 Life
"Pulling all nighters for any reason. My body will not tolerate it anymore."
- Eccentric_Mermaid
"I used to do it every weekend as a teenager, with help from Monster, my PC, and some of the fine programming on Adult Swim."
"Last time I tried as an early 20s adult, I passed out sitting straight up. I'm pretty sure now Monster just puts me to sleep."
"Last successful all-nighter I survived until 6 AM. I still woke up at 8:00 on the dot, on my day off. Thanks work."
- EvilDarkCow
"Oh my sweet, honey-glazed christ...I turned 40 last year and I swear it was like someone flipped a light switch."
"I used to pull all-nighters and get 4 hours sleep and be ready to go like a wild hog the next morning."
"Now I get 8 hours of sleep and I could frankly use a nap. Aging sucks."
- Cats-Steal-Things
GiphyNo More
"Got seizures from drinking more or less a liter of vodka a day."
"Took a few years, but I'm now standing at 648 days alcohol free."
- FroggiJoy87
"Currently in the hospital. Came off a hangover caused by 14 shots of Altos and my body was like 'you know what? We're gonna figure all this shit out'."
"I had diarrhea so bad, I was almost in starvation mode when I got to the ER. Turns out, there's a tiny hole in my something and it was leaking waste into my body which gave me an infection."
"Been here 5 days, now. I have a straw in my belly which is draining the infection so the antibiotics can work better."
"Every time I look at it, I'm grossed out and wanna slap myself. I'm never touching a drink again in my life. F'k that."
"I just liked to have a good time and binge drink."
"Well, I'm gonna have to get some new hobbies or something because this sh*t here, ain't it."
- IreallEwannasay
"I use to take pills all the time to get high when I was going through some sh*t in my early 20's that I didn't really know how to handle at the time."
"Well one day while doing the pills, my body just said 'no more' and I projectile vomited everywhere in my room and bathroom. It got on the walls and floor. I was living with my parents at the time and blamed it on food poisoning or something like that."
"I tried again every day for like a week and each time I just threw them back up."
"And that's how I got clean off these pills. Drug free to this day!"
- Necrodotexe
Your Pancreas Says "No!"
"I just checked my blood sugar today and it is outrageous, so it looks like my food shenanigans are over."
"I made homemade bread last night and my blood sugar was 195 this morning. F'k my life."
- KayBeaux
"Yeah. When eating a piece of French bread becomes food shenanigans you know you're effed. Stuff most folks consider fine is now off limits."
"It's not like pork rinds or similar junk food, either. Potatoes, French fries, chips, etc... are absolutely not happening. OJ, cider, milk....all gone."
- jpr_jpr
GiphyEnergy With A Side Of Palpitations
"Drinking Bang energy drinks, last one I had turned me into a panicking rage monster, whole time I thought I was going to die my heart was beating so fast and irregular."
- CaptnRiggen
"I used to work a day job till 6p M-F then work security at bars Thur-Sat from 10p-3am."
"One night I drank two of those 4-Hour Energy drinks. The second one was more of a 'Wonder what would happen?' more than I needed it."
"Holy f'k was that a bad idea. My heart was going so fast."
"I never touched that stuff again. That was before I really looked closely at the nutrition labels. Now I always look at them."
‐ lipp79
"I had this with Redbull—my first time drinking it and I never touched it again."
"Coca Cola also gives me heart palpitations so I rarely drink it but not to the 'omg, I'm going to die' level of Red Bull."
- QuendaQuoll
"I used to work overnights at a store that sold 4-Hour Energy at the counter. My coworkers and I would guzzle them to get through the night shift."
"I always felt that same sensation of irregular heartbeat for hours and the crash afterward was unbelievable."
- jellyrat24
Calm Down
"Being stressed."
"I'm at the age now where I realize that controlling my stress level is an actual physical health issue."
"I started getting bald patches on my facial hair, and terrible neck pain, and elevated heart rate. I'm definitely more mindful.
"I used to think stress was just about what I was feeling emotionally in a given moment, but no it's very physical."
- mjzim9022
Giphy"Yep this one right here! During the summer of 2020 I realize that if I didn’t start working on calming down, I was gonna drop dead of a heart attack or something."
"About six months later I noticed that I had six months growth worth of pure white hairs on the top of my head. I didn’t even have gray hairs before Covid."
"I’m pretty sure that if I hadn’t have started calming myself down, I really would’ve had a heart attack."
- Drealjas
Sleeping Wrong Is A Thing
"Camping without an air mattress. The last time I did it using only a pallet of blankets I PAID for it the next morning."
"My entire body hurt. Getting old sucks."
- 2gecko1983
"Went to visit my grandmother 3 years ago and the air mattress had a hole in it, so I just said 'Ah its fine I'll sleep ona pallet on the floor'."
"I woke up the next morning with my left shoulder sore and stiff. It hurt all day, and every day after that."
"I finally broke down and went to the Dr about it this year. He said, 'You take anything for that?' I said, no. He said 'You probably should'."
"I was hoping maybe he was gonna fix me. Refer me to a joint specialist. Possibly see about surgery."
"Apparently after a certain age they dont really do that anymore and I now see why Aleve commercials are mostly targeted toward older people. Cause some disinterested Dr said 'You should probably start taking something for that'."
- IGotNoStringsOnMe
GiphyWhat activities has your body put a stop to?
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