Plots That Absolutely Ruined A TV Show For People
"Reddit user rayray1010 asked: 'What single plot decision ruined a good television series?'"
Who doesn't love a great television show?
Truly great storytelling has come from that little home entertainment box.
But there is something to be said about staying too long at the party.
Too many fabulous shows have had their legacies tainted by not bowing out sooner.
Staying on the air too long tends to lead to ludicrous plots that ruin everything.
And so many shows have tanked by ludicrous plot twists that just ruin everything.
Maddie and David shagging on 'Moonlighting.'
Bobby Ewing's death a dream on 'Dallas.'
All of 'ER' after Clooney's departure.
The list of grievances is endless.
Redditor rayray1010 wanted to hear about the ways TV has been destroyed, so they asked:
"What single plot decision ruined a good television series?"
Break Out
prison break GIFGiphy"Prison Break was a great concept for a show. But then once they broke out of prison they kept making the show."
Se7enLC
"Fox doesn't know when to cancel a show. They either go for a season or two too long or they get canceled too early."
bangbangracer
Too Weird
"Deb being in love with Dexter. I don't know what they were thinking."
wilmontcm
"It was kind of pointless. If they brought it up in the first place, they should've run with it. Then, on their wedding day, Debra finds Dexter's slides."
"I can hear her now 'I was getting ready to marry my brother, but now I find out he's a f**king serial killer!!'"
GrandUnhappy9211
"Came looking for this. Weirdest plot choice ever."
RateNXS
Grievances
"We could fill this entire comment section with GoT grievances :/ "
DIWhy-not
"Season eight singlehandedly took one of, if not the most talked about shows at the time and made collapse into pop culture oblivion! Not a single person I knew or interacted with wasn't watching 'Game of Thrones,' I swear every other conversation looped back to that show eventually, but after S8 no one gave a sh*t about it."
Enganeer09
"There were so many, and this is so unpopular opinion, but Dany and Jon falling in love was just boring. I hope GRRM avoids it but I guess the chance for that is low. I mean, the chance he ever finishes another book for the series is low."
sharksarenotreal
Over It
"The Blacklist writers almost cruelly withholding answers from the audience year after year after year."
zsal830
"I gave up when Liz died and Dembe became an FBI agent, and the show was already dying before that for me. I loved watching James Spader's acting, but it got to the point that even that wasn't enough to keep me involved. I've heard it's in the final season now, so once it's over I'll just Google the ending and that's good enough for me."
Bobisburnsred
Bad Changes
Episode 3 GIF by BBC ThreeGiphy"Misfits when they started getting rid of the main characters from season 1."
discostud1515
"The second the group changed the show lost what made it great."
legend_forge
That show was delightfully strange and certainly fit its title.
Cast shake-ups can really zap a show of its magic... especially when the show itself is about super powers.
Oh Luke
season 4 netflix GIF by Gilmore Girls Giphy"When they revealed Luke had a child he didn't know about in Gilmore Girls."
writtenrain
"Like I feel bad because she’s a kid, but I hate April. Such a terrible plot device. There was plenty going on without her coming into the picture."
helloitstessa
Stop at the beginning
"When they left the park in Westworld."
Indian_Bob
"Unfortunately the writers were very keen to write a commentary on AI in society, and thus drove it in a direction, which as a show in itself is interesting, but went a lot further than the source material in this regard. There were two shows there and neither was done justice."
IHaveHivesWithBees
"I think Season 1 is one of the best shows ever made. It has everything: characters, story ark, riddle, and its closure and very good (just a bit open) ending. Other seasons are just an attempt of producers to milk the story and Id rather pretend they don’t exist."
techlogger
Too Soon
"Sherlock f**ked up by killing Moriarty too early."
"Andrew Scott's performance was so great that they then had to keep trying to shoehorn the already dead Moriarty into later plots or end up with the travesty that was the last series with Sherlock's even smarter sister, who secretly cooked up everything with Mortiarty, just so they could have more Moriarty scenes."
"The whole show went from top-class Peak TV to absolute dogs**t in a slow decline that started with the poor Doylist decision to kill Jimbo."
Histary_Studentary
A Re-Work
"The overall seventh season of Once Upon a Time. It should have been reworked in its entirety."
StillAnIntrovert
"I agree with that. Another bad point was when they made Emma the Dark One when they literally just introduced Lilly, who had the saviors' darkest potential."
"That could have been an epic villain as 'The Dark Savior.'" Also, them constantly having Rumple and Belle get back together. He was power-driven and would always put her second. I loved it in season 4 when she finally realized that and banished him from Storybrooke."
Electrowhatt19
Many of these franchises jumped the shark, as they say.
Do you have anything to add? Let us know in the comments
Some of the best comedians of all time have passed through the doors of Saturday Night Live over at New York's Rockefeller Plaza, and many of them have gone on to achieve superstardom.
Some of the comic legends of the 1970s include Dan Aykroyd, John Belushi, Gilda Radner, and Chevy Chase, while the 80s saw Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Eddie Murphy.
Cast members making star turns today include Kate McKinnon, Pete Davidson, and recently exited actress, Cecily Strong.
With so many greats that have made millions laugh over the years, people have their wide-ranging favorites.
Curious to hear from fans online, Redditor Nickster1619 asked:
"Who is the best SNL cast member of all time?"
Repertory cast members from earlier seasons get a shout-out.
Known For Eugene–The Anal Retentive Chef
"Quite possible! It's Phil Hartman."
– Jaoxpax
The Larry King And Burt Reynolds Impersonator
"Idk about the best, but Norm McDonald was always my favorite."
– Burgerpocolypse
Memorable Sketch
"Norm did a skit where he played a police sketch artist who wasn't any good at eyes or hair so everybody had a giant hat and sunglasses. It was a rip on the Unabomber sketch with the hood, bandana and glasses. It was so dry and hilarious."
– tuenthe463
Best Weekend Update Host
"Norm was by far the best weekend update. No question. Seth Meyers and Tina Fey were second. I'm a big fan of Michael Che because I've been following him since he was doing stand-up. Who else? Dennis Miller, meh. Collin Quinn, I like the guy but he wasn't my favorite weekend update by a long shot. Norm was the perfect person for that gig."
– arcaneresistance
The "Beverly Hills Cop" Star
"Eddie Murphy. He carried the show when he was on it, and it probably would have been cancelled if he wasn’t there to do so."
– ovid10
Iconic Characters
"Seconding! Murphy was at a career peak during his time with the show, and his characters - Gumby, Mr. Robinson, Buckwheat - were iconic."
– Brilliant_Tourist400
The Church Lady
"Dana Carvey was incredible in his time."
– Iwannascream2
The 2000s boasted these greats.
Now Starring In "Barry"
"Bill Hader"
"I dont really watch a lot of SNL so my knowledge is limited. He just always appeared to be having a really good time on the show and he's one of the ones who could make me laugh sometimes."
– adios-b*tchachos
The Giggles
"I loved it when he’d get the giggles at something he was going to say and he couldn’t deliver it because of his laughter. That was as good as the joke."
– opossumonmyporch
Love To The Ladies
"Gotta send love to my ladies, it’s Tina Fey for me. Amy Poehler is also a goddess but I don’t remember her as much until Parks and Rec. Also Kenan Thompson? He had such a long run!"
– __nothankyou__
Kiss Me, Kate
"Kate McKinnon. She is the most versatile cast member of modern times."
– Guest8782
Longtime Cast Member
"Gotta give some love to Kenan. He is often the center and driver of the sketches. So consistent and has been there so long now."
– Naes422
No one made me crack up harder than the great comedy legend, Gilda Radner.
In 1975, the SNL alum was one of the original "Not Ready for Prime Time Players"–the freshman cast of the show's first season.
A character of hers I'll never forget was the know-it-all Weekend Update advice expert, Roseanne Roseannadanna. YouTube clips of her hilarious turn as the wacky consumer affairs reporter show her comedic timing and delivery brilliance.
Unfortunately, Radner left us too soon in 1989 having died from ovarian cancer. She was 42.
Actors are especially adept at learning to prove they're the right choice.
How many times have people scoffed at a casting choice only to walk out of the theater thinking... "That was Oscar caliber."
It's all part of the game.
It's okay, proving everyone wrong is part of the fun.
So they say.
Redditor wfpbgoals wanted to compare notes on the best times we've been pleasantly surprised by thespians and asked:
"Which actor seemed miscast in a role but ended up killing it?"
I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until I've seen something.
So I don't have a "thought was going to be miscast" list. I'm bias though.
Walk that Line
joaquin phoenix film GIFGiphy"I think I was of the opinion that Joaquin Phoenix was an odd choice for the role of Johnny Cash until I saw his acting and heard his phenomenal voice sing these classics."
PoliticsEnthusiast
Oh Jim
"I thought that Jim Carrey in The Truman Show must have been an error because he's a comic, but at the end I was so wrong that I reviewed all my life choices and felt like the worst human being in existence. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (in Italy called If you leave me I delete you) was the same thing except better. Incredible movie, every time I hear that Alexander Pope quote I begin crying."
Italianguyonreddit
Helping John
"Everyone thought Travolta had been miscast in Pulp Fiction because at the time his career was on its knees. And he hadn't been cast in anything noteworthy in a very long time. Tarantino breathed new life into it his career but giving him the role."
"I just watched Blow Out, which is apparently the film that killed Travolta’s career until Tarantino revived it. I highly recommend it, if you haven’t seen it. Travolta gives a really good performance and it’s totally unlike everything else I’d seen him in."
"Not to mention John Lithgow as an emotionless sociopath, which makes his casting as a serial killer in Dexter decades later make more sense."
"Tarantino cast Travolta because of Blow Out and has said it’s one of his favorite movies. With the attention to detail and the way certain scenes are shot, you can really spot where Tarantino drew influence from. And the ending is amazing. Highly recommend Blow Out."
NooksCrannyPanties
Kronk
"Patrick Warburton as Lemony Snicket. Really came out of nowhere for me."
angrytomato98
"I totally imagined Lemony Snicket as a scrawny nerd, but the classy suave character turned out to be awesome."
He strikes that perfect tone of saying absolute nonsense in a very serious manner."
KareemOWheat
"I dunno, after The Emperor's New Groove, he'll just forever be Kronk in my mind."
BeingABeing
Sexy & Funny
Season 2 Chris GIF by Parks and RecreationGiphy"Rob Lowe in Parks and Recreation. Based on some of his other work it didn’t seem like the role of an enthusiastic health nut fit him but he killed it."
-notjosh-
Sexy guys are always a surprise.
The Best Choice
Dc Comics Batman GIFGiphy"Michael Keaton in Batman. People lost it when he was cast."
loquacious_avenger
"I remember reading that his Beetlejuice performance sealed the deal because they saw him doing angry scenes."
RealisticDelusions77
She Showed Them!
"I remember going to the theatre to see Silkwood in 1983 with Meryl Streep and Kurt Russell. When they showed Cher's name at the beginning, people audibly laughed. She was fantastic in the movie and went on to a very respectable film career. I had always thought she was a good actor from her days on the Sonny & Cher show so why not go dramatic? Anyway, I LOVE all her work."
femsci-nerd
Go Bald
"Gene Roddenberry hated Patrick Stewart as Jean Luc Picard. To the extent he had him wearing a wig during casting. The runner up for the role told Stewart that he killed the audition, but to lose the wig. Eventually Roddenberry came around, and I personally think Stewart’s Picard was the most amazing captain to ever appear in the franchise."
ThtPhatCat
She Can Do It All
"Cate Blanchett as Bob Dylan in I’m Not There. She was the most believable Dylan in that movie by far."
WhiskyTangoNovember
"I honestly don’t think Cate Blanchett has ever been in a bad role. She is one of the best actresses currently living that’s for sure."
SaggyTulips
"Her turn as Hela in Thor:Ragnarok is the equivalent of Alan Rickman’s Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Both stellar actors with serious chops, given villains to play, and they chose to chew the furniture to shreds. Amazing stuff."
beetrootfuelled
HIM?
"In 2002, nobody could imagine Matt Damon playing a bada** CIA assassin with amnesia. I saw the preview on TV and was like, 'the dude from Good Will Hunting?' The Jason Bourne movies are among my all-time faves now and I can’t picture anyone else in that role."
Never underestimate artists.
Do you have anyone you'd like to add to this list? Let us know in the comments below.
There are plenty of excellent movies we claim as our personal favorites.
But perhaps the best form of flattery is when we pay respect to a brilliant cinematic masterpiece by acting out memorable scenes from a particular movie.
Curious to hear the opinion about cinema from aficionados, Redditor janearcade asked:
"What is the greatest single movie scene ever filmed?"
The point of arrival has big potential for a lasting impact.
Welcome To Oz
"It's when Dorothy steps out of the house into Technicolor and into a new world. It changed film. The emotional aspect is unreal. That scene is forever engraved."
– janesaysmore
The King Of Beasts
"When the T Rex showed up in Jurassic Park."
– 123phantomhive
"F'king amazing scene. The water in the cup moving before you can even see the T-Rex is such a scary thing. Bloody brilliant scene."
– whingingcackle
Introducing, Indy
"The opening of Raiders of the Lost Ark set the bar awfully high"
Shocking moments on celluloid are forever cemented in our brains.
The Hatching
"The original chestburst scene from Alien."
– Novel_Board_6813
Choose Your Weapon
"A giant worm breaks into Reba's basement and then the camera pans over to the wall of guns. :)"
– sofakingdead
Traumatizing Opener
"The first 12 minutes of Cliffhanger when Sylvester Stallone could no longer hold onto his friend's suspended girlfriend after they're both stuck halfway above the abyss of a canyon."
– anon
Lights, camera, and plenty of action in climax.
Gunslingers Galore
"The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: the showdown at the Sad Hill cemetery."
– YouKnowWhatYouAre
Frying The Shark
"I will die on the hill that the ending to Jaws is an example of the perfect climax."
"Quint is dead, Hooper is indisposed. The Orca is sinking rapidly and Brody is trapped in the cabin. A combination of hope, despair, thrill, and terror, all wound together by brilliant cinematography and John Williams' famous soundtrack leads to the ultimate duel of man vs. beast."
"Brody is on the parapet, rifle in his hands, watching the shark circle closer with the oxygen tank jammed in its teeth. Brody goads the shark into attacking. 'Come on... Show me the tank.' He growls. 'Blow up'"
"The shark begins its final approach."
"Brody fires the first shot. It misses wide right, whizzing through the water as a trail of bubbles. He fires again, missing the tank. Williams' score escalates, becoming louder than even the bang of Brody's rifle. He squints down the sights harder. 'BLOW UP!' He fires again, missing. Down to the last bullet. The shark's snout breaches the water, its eyes lock onto Brody's."
"Smile you son of a-"
"Bang"
"BOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
"An eruption of sea water, blood, and shark matter. Hunks of flesh rain down. Brody opens his eyes. His expression lights up with triumph. Then he cheers, a release of all his stress, terror, and grief, now a glowing victory."
"The shark's corpse falls to the ocean floor to the melody of a piano. Hooper resurfaces to reveal he's alive. The two men laugh, mourn the loss of Quint, then paddle home on a makeshift raft."
"'I used to hate the water,' Brody muses."
"Hooper chuckles. 'I can't imagine why.'"
– TheGreatJaceyGee
Terror In Pitch Darkness
"The night vision sequence in Silence of the Lambs is great suspense."
– teradactyl-rex
The long take sequence in Joe Wright’s Atonement remains, for me at least, one of the most captivating cinematic moments captured on film.
The five-minute tracking shot featuring James McAvoy as a wounded British soldier wandering past a series of vignettes on Dunkirk beach was glorious to watch on the big screen.
Accompanied by the hauntingly exquisite Academy Award-winning score by Dario Marianelli, the scene alone elevates what already is a heartbreakingly well-crafted film to another level.
Stage actors are trained to completely transform into their respective characters and be emotionally present night after night.
Unlike film actors, theatrical performers have the added pressure of having only one shot to pull off their storytelling without any flubbing of lines... or other mishaps.
Those who work as characters at Disney parks are faced with a unique challenge.
Because the Disney characters, or cast members, interact with park guests–there is no separation between talent and audience that theaters provide.
A successful character meet and greet largely depends on the improv skills of the actor and how they respond to many unpredictable situations while remaining in character.
This applies specifically to face characters, the actors who portray human characters from a Disney animated film, including heroines and princesses like Rapunzel, and Snow White; and villains like Maleficent and Gaston.
But while there is no scripted dialogue, it doesn't mean they never break character.
Curious to hear anecdotes from those who were a part of the magic, Redditor HesSoZazzy asked:
"Disney theme park characters - have there been situations where you had to break character? What was the reason? Consequences?"
Sometimes, guests can get a little too handsy.
Occupational Hazards
"I auditioned to be a face character and Disneyland and made it to the stage where they run through scenarios of unruly guests, rude comments etc. and you have to respond and come up with responses in character."
"My dance teacher was a face more than 20 years ago and she had all kinds of stories of people trying to reach up her skirt (she was Pocahontas mainly). In the end I'm glad I didn't make it through! At the time it was like barely above min wage which was like $6.75/hour or something like that."
– Oddlyoddish
The Loin King
"Maybe someone who actually played Tarzan can confirm this for me;"
"Disneyland used to have a Tarzan character, but you don't see him anymore. Since the characters are always expected to pose for photos and selfies, and Tarzan wore nothing but a loin cloth; woman were constantly grabbing the actor's butt, when they got in close."
"So, the park just quit that character."
"Update: After some confirmation of the bad behavior, there are still recent Tarzan sightings. It appears Disney paused the character and re-designed his loin-cloth costume into one more like a pair of shorts and a 'jungle-vine' sash. Apparently, women are still 'grabby' but the costume department tried to make it a little less easy."
– loCAtek
These specific interactions have a left lasting impressions.
Enchanted By A Child
"Saw a recent video on youtube of a Rey talking to this little girl and her dad had just started filming. Apparently the story the little girl was telling got Rey laughing so hard, she had to turn her face away and eventually got up and ran away because she couldn't stop laughing at whatever the little girls story was."
"Super adorable."
– zeusmeister
Damage Control
"I was at Disneyland once and the Sheriff of Nottingham was fake-menacing a child. He reached out to touch the kid’s balloon and for some reason it popped. The character actor was clearly stunned. A new balloon appeared less than 30 seconds later."
– leftside72
Claiming Simba
"I remember being in Disneyland Paris when I was 9 and had just gotten a baby Simba plush which I brought to dinner in one of those character meeting restaurants where the characters come to your table. Most characters pretended to coo at and tickle Simba. Sheriff of Nottingham kidnapped Simba. I of course got him back. It just took a dramatic (fake) tug of war between Mr Incredible and Sheriff of Nottingham to do it. (Seriously, these guys were good)."
– marshmeeelo
Here's Looking At Peter
"On a disney cruise I met a guy who looked EXACTLY like Peter pan. When we asked him he said 'nope peter pan has brown eyes' (or something like that) the next day when we went to get a picture with peter he got super close and whispered 'see? Peter has brown eyes.'"
"Hands down best Disney employee I've ever met (he was also Pluto)"
– newtoreddit573
The One Exception
"When I was 6 or so, I went to Disney World with my mom and aunt and cousins. I really wanted Capt Hooks autograph, but per his character, he wasn't supposed to give it. I started crying over it, and my mom went and asked him again (nicely, I hope) and told him that I was very upset over it. He signed my book, even though he wasn't supposed to, and I always thought that was neat."
"So, to Capt Hook from 1989 or so, if you're out there - Thanks, and I hope you didn't get in trouble for that."
– PTech_J
There are unfortunately scenarios that can result in pain or wet messes.
No Spatial Awareness
"Ex cast member here. While not a character myself, I did have to work the parade route from time to time, making sure kids didn't dart out in front of floats and such. 'Friends of characters' would often be playful with CMs along the parade route. Winking, making silly faces, etc. There was one day where Baloo came up to me mid-dance, and proceeded to bow to me. Baloo also happened to be wearing some sort of crown/hat thing with a star on the top. Baloo probably wasn't aware of how tall that actually made them.. Baloo managed to smack me right in the mouth with that star, cutting it open and giving me a fat lip. Fairly certain I heard Baloo audibly gasp when they stood upright again. Paws to mouth. Immediately stopped dancing. Just stared at me as I bled. They tried to grab my hands and pull me to them, but their handler came and ushered them along. Oops."
– kaytbug86
The Commentator
"I watched Jack Sparrow talking to a kid when the kid started puking everywhere. He said 'too much of the ol' apple juice eh? been there myself! even ran out once!'. All the while, the kid is just projectile vomiting everywhere."
– Goyteamsix
Queasy Characters
"A bit late, but I did the College Program at WDW. Never saw a character break when I worked audience control for parades. Definitely saw a a few fully costumed characters puke in their heads, and Prince Naveen once got heat exhaustion and managed to leave the parade route fully in character. Once the parade was over, we saw him in the back almost completely passed out. Typically the parade will just speed up to double time if a character actor is in distress."
– anon
Pooh's Reaction To A Collision
"I wasn't a character but was a cast member. I was walking from backstage into the park. If you've seen the transitions, they are S shaped to keep people from peaking in."
"I was pushing a dolly/hand cart. The ones we used had 2 long supports sticking out from the end. As I was going though Winnie the Pooh was walking in from the other side. I hit him/her square in the leg with it. Hearing Winnie the Pooh say 'F'k!' was a pretty damn funny."
– Joker0091
Personally having worked as a Disneyland entertainment cast member, I have to say, that my colleagues have maintained what's called, "good show," by staying dedicated to their characters.
Everyone in the Disney character department takes pride in their work and it shows onstage.
That being said, the backstage scene is a whole other story. As characters prepare to go out onstage, fully dressed in their respective costumes, I've seen some hilarious, but harmless, behavior.
But I won't share those here as many of them are NSFW.
Gotta maintain the magic, you know?