Once Popular TV Tropes That Are No Longer Acceptable Today
A Redditor asked: 'What TV trope was common in the not-so distant past but is completely unacceptable today?'
Content Warning: alcoholism, sexual assault, harassment, and violence against women in entertainment
The entertainment industry is constantly changing and generally reflects what the public finds interesting and believes in.
Fortunately, this means that some problematic tropes, storylines, and messages are being retired from the writers' room, and viewers are embracing the more inclusive characters and stories they're seeing on screen.
Redditor midnightsonofab***h asked:
"What TV trope was common in the not-so-distant past but is completely unacceptable today?"
Connected At All Times
"Misunderstandings that can now be cleared up by a text or cell phone call. Entire episodes used to be built around people not being able to find or communicate with each other and just having to figure stuff out."
- OccasionallyWright
"I read a story from a horror writer and he said cell phones changed how they have to write because 99% of the stuck-in-a-murder town or house situations would be solved by phones now."
- Cleets11
"Oh yeah, for sure! I write thrillers for a living, and the idea of a 'MacGuffin' that is hidden is a lot harder to pull off when the now-dead character hiding it could've just called the right people and told them, or sent them the data in an email, etc."
"I have a very good editor (he's BAFTA nominated) and had this exact one in my latest story outline, with them 'finding' a report he's hidden. But... he could've just sent it to his daughter by email."
"As I'm older, I have to adjust my mindset constantly to deal with stuff like that."
- jloome
Security Before Love
"Running through the airport to confess one's love for the protagonist. Or the 'Home Alone' premises. These wouldn't happen today with current security measures."
- flawedmentalist69_
Women's Panic Attacks
"Not really TV trope but slapping women that were supposedly having a panic attack was almost a trope in westerns and noire movies."
- Sufficient-Eye-8883
Unresolved Amnesia
"People walking around with amnesia."
"Every freaking show, someone hit their head and had amnesia and there was nothing anyone could do about it. Like, hello, brain injury?"
- darkmatternot
Stalking Love
"Stalking a woman long enough and constantly will eventually make her fall for you."
- SuvenPan
"This was probably the most confusing thing growing up in the late 80s and early 90s."
"This odd thing was sold to both genders: the guy was supposed to keep on going after being told to be uninteresting. This led to guys thinking 'no means ask again' and girls saying 'no' to guys that they were interested in, but thought this is how the game was played in real life."
"Even in my early 20s, I saw girls in my party crew doing this, quite often harshly rejecting a drop-dead handsome guy, then being all p**sy about it when the guy just f**ked off as being told to and didn't instead start the rom-com mating ritual."
- aamurusko79
Voyeurism Was Not Okay
"Spying on naked women or women changing clothes as an innocent boy or teen rite of passage."
- coagulatedfat
"'It’s Always Sunny' does a great episode called 'The Gang Hits the Slopes' or something. They go to a ski resort and live out 80s tropes from their childhood before realizing how f**ked up it all was, including spying on women and skiing without helmets."
- tman291
Homophobia "Humor"
"Gay panic. I love 'Friends,' but how often the joke was AT any of the guys doing anything feminine?"
- HazeAbove
"The flamboyant gay character whose sexuality is either intended for the audience to laugh and make fun of or becomes a joke with other characters."
- DimesyEvans92
"Or in the case of 'Friends,' the straight character who everybody thinks is gay and is the butt (pun intended) of the joke."
- Friesenplatz
The Dark Side of the Town Drunk
"Comedic town drunk. Think Otis from 'The Andy Griffith Show.'"
- dominationnation
"I think part of the problem is the 'comedic town drunk' is something so many people can relate to because every small town seems to have one."
"My town growing up certainly did. His name was Silas. He drove a lawnmower everywhere because he lost his license, and would shout, 'Yee-Haw!' when it reached max speed. The man could consume an impossible quantity of alcohol and just as quickly piss it all out."
"He was homeless and on a first-name basis with every police officer in the county. He could tell the funniest, dirtiest jokes, and in late autumn would commit some minor harmless crime to spend the winter in jail (where he'd put on a lot of weight) instead of spending it in his tent."
"He was also a very reliable handyman, our family hired him a few times to remove massive trees, and he'd drop them right where he said he would."
"But that's where the comedy and trope end. I've referred to him in the past tense because he died of liver failure."
"He was ill with an addiction and desperately needed help to get past it, and that's what the TV tropes fail to discuss. Consequently, it's funny to the audience because it conveniently ignores the harsh reality of the situation."
- Kent_Knifen
Smoking Bans
"'Mind if I smoke?' in places where people would instantly object today, like cars, airplanes, spaceships, the baby's nursery, etc."
- crooked-v
Anti-Tomboy and Androgyny
"'Fixing' the 'tomboy' who likes to wear boys' clothes, no makeup, and do boy things."
"There's an 'Andy Griffith Show' episode that would be considered an over-the-top parody if it came out now."
- Visible_Scallion_489
No Locked Doors
"People living in NYC and L.A. who never lock the front door."
- KAG25
"Pretty sure 'Friends' lampshade this with an episode where they all get locked out and Monica even asks, 'Who locked the door? That door is never locked!'"
- rhapsody98
Questionable Family Dynamics
"An overweight, lazy husband with a smoking hot, nagging wife. Add in one rebellious teen and one nerdy kid and boom. The family sitcom recipe."
- chewedupshoes
The Hate for Wives
"The running joke in sitcoms is that every average American man hates their wife and is always complaining about her 'nagging' and just wants to hang with the boys and dreams about the single life or having more freedom but he’s a dad now."
"I think too many are sick of seeing that. It wasn’t really funny in the first place. And now society is trying to push many to see marriage as the ultimate goal anyway and vilifies people for wanting to be single."
- BellaBlue06
Minorities As Targets
"Black dude dies first. It's basically never done nowadays and the trope is almost always pointed out if there's even the possibility of it happening."
- CoolGuy69MLG
When we look through this thread, we can all think of examples of these old tropes, from smoking to consent, and fortunately, most of these shows are older.
As terrible as it might be that these tropes were once popular, it's at least refreshing to see that we are learning, that the entertainment industry is reflecting that, and some of these tropes are fading away.
More often than not, when we indulge in a television show, we accept the fact that not everything we're watching is 100% realistic.
Even outside the world of science fiction and fantasy, we acknowledge that certain conflicts resolve a bit easier than they likely would in real life ("you had me at hello"? seriously?), or that modern medicine hasn't evolved quite that much (Meredith Grey drowning and coming back to life anyone?)
However, there are certain tropes and clichés which are becoming increasingly commonplace in film and television which result in viewers finding themselves truly unable to suspend their disbelief.
Sometimes not even coming until the film's climax, leading viewers to think "surely they're not going to go there?"
Only to find themselves infuriatingly disappointed that yes, they did.
"What single trope can cause you to fully lose interest in a movie/show?"
That is quite an unusual set of skills
"I can’t stand seeing specialists being cast as masters of multiple highly specialized skill sets or areas of study."
"I understand that it’s a popular action movie trope, but you also see this in the medical and academic fields."- BeatMeElmo
Income/Housing Disparity
"The main character bakes muffins part-time 3 days a week but lives in a 2500 sq ft loft penthouse in the chic part of town."- SeaTie
Henchmen Have Families Too...
"If I kill him I'm no better than him"
"Motherf*cker you just smoked 19 of his henchmen and put 5 more in a wheelchair for life, end his a**."
"And of course the bad guy gets let go, but decides at the last second to try to kill the good guy, justifying a bullet between the eyes, usually by either the good guy's sidek ick, or the bad guy's henchmen that he just got done betraying."- Pyrochazm
matt damon punch GIF by Jason BourneGiphyGet It Over With!!!
"The main character is about to get killed."
"The antagonist is sitting there pointing a gun at them about to shoot them, but they first have to give a 30-second speech."
"This gives the love interest/forgotten sidekick/child with developing fighting skills to come kill the enemy instead."
"Follow it up with a quote from them saying 'you think I’d miss this party?'."- Jimbo19091
Mortal Wound? No Problem!
"Being mildly impacted by lethal injuries."
"Likewise, when in subfreezing temperatures, not succumbing to hypothermia when soaking wet.'
"Not always enough to shut it off, but it always stands out and strains the illusion."- spill_oreilly
No Conflict? Let's Make Some...
"Smart people making dumb decisions for drama."
"I have stopped watching several shows because of this."- TheWalkingBlondeJoke
hey arnold nicksplat GIFGiphy"We Can't Do It Without Them!"
"The cop who is about to retire, the soldier with one last mission before they're out, and the person who was about to get married WHEN THEY GOT KILLED."- virgilreality
"The ex-cop/FBI agent that comes out of retirement because the entire government can't catch a criminal."- The_Spyre
Just Kiss Already!!!
"'Will they won't they'."
"I liked watching 'New Girl', but when they completely restarted the main characters' relationship I was like, 'Oh, so it's going to be like that'."
"Dear producers, please let your characters grow."- MrMToomey
"But she has glasses! And a ponytail..."
"The 'clumsy, nerdy, awkward girl' who are normally played by the hottest actresses out there..."- Icy_Note_8154
It Only Took Two And A Half Hours To Figure Out!!
'“Wait!'
"I can explain this very obvious and easy to explain scenario'.”
“'Nope'."
"You’re dead to me."
"Now stare speechless as I’m meander my way out of your life slowly'.”-Aerhart941
"Something that can be fixed right away with just a conversation."- Beginning-Match592
"If an entire conundrum can be solved by just someone waiting 1 minute for the other person to explain but chooses not to."
"Irritates me to no end and I'd much rather stop watching the movie."- charthrowawayliet
Tyler Perry Problem Solved GIF by NickelodeonGiphyBig Words Can't Get You Everything...
"When a character is repeatedly hyped as being insanely intelligent, but then they just have a decent vocabulary and aren't particularly insightful or clever."- Gloomy-Flamingo-1733
The best part of sitting back and watching a movie or a TV show is to surrender to a world completely different from our own.
And enjoying them in the comfort of our own homes gives us the freedom to scream at our TV sets when something happens to annoy us.
Humans are annoying.
Our attention spans are limited, our attitudes really need adjusting, and we make dating torture on ourselves.
So losing interest in a person should be more of a given than a surprise.
But it is fascinating to learn about what can change a person's mind about another so quickly.
Redditor lixxie_lx wanted to hear about all the big and minuscule things that have us running for the hills, so they asked:
"What instantly makes you lose interest in a person?"
This is a major issue for me.
I lose interest at the speed of light.
Not Cute
rude kim kardashian GIF by RealityTVGIFsGiphy"Superiority complex. It’s fine to be confident, but if you need to put others down to feel that way you’re just insecure and it’s not cute."
CarlosTentacule
Growning Apart
"The moment I can tell that they aren’t trying. Either they aren’t all that interested in me or they expect me to do all of the 'work' so to speak. Either reason is a good enough one to step away."
Ok_Button1932
"I’m going through this as well. 5 year relationship, no kids thankfully and not married. We’ve had to do long distance the last few months and she’s essentially radio silent. Never calls and only texts back if I chase her."
"We trust each other implicitly and even share location but the lack of interest in even checking in with me or being affectionate unless I initiate it has me feeling so gaslit. I fear it’s something as simple as growing apart but neither person wanting to end it."
SavetheFollys
The Tease
"When I tell them I don't like something, or something makes me uncomfortable and they continue to do it intentionally as if it's flirting."
mtotheija
"Hardest breakup I ever had was because of a person's inability to stop f**king with me... it's not funny when someone says that it bothers them and you continue to do it."
"Everything else was really good it gave me huge self doubt that I was just being a whimp and she had a point that it was just teasing. Even got to the point that I thought that's just the way this give and take is gonna go in this relationship. Glad I decided to get out... I would have been miserable."
phreedumb21nyc21
Be Quiet
"Constantly talking sh*t about others and trying to boost their own ego."
uncultured_swine2099
"Yup, I thought I met a good person at first, but then she started talking sh*t about everyone, not to mention if I got something I wanted, instead of being happy for me, she becomes extremely jealous."
"The last straw was when she left me in the middle of the street and left without me for university even though she told me she was picking me up. Sadly, she's still friends with my sister, and she kinda has to be because they share so many classes, but I'm still trying to find a way to cut off all contact, which is harder than I thought would be."
The_Phantom_Soldier
I See You
Married At First Sight No GIF by LifetimeGiphy"Few things are 'instant' dealbreakers, but blatant displays of rudeness or condescension toward strangers when under stress is a big red flag. Like, I get that you are frustrated, but there is no need to be a d*ck."
MissBitsy
Why is kindness so arduous for some people?
Kindness First
hot dog waiter GIF by Warner ArchiveGiphy"If they mistreat others, especially those who are in the service industries."
funtime2000
Stay in the moment...
"When they can't stop checking their mobile phones every few seconds while we are talking. I went out with a woman who would do that. After the 4th date I stopped going out with her and dated another woman. The former was surprised to know that."
"I said 'But girl, you're always on the phone while I talk to you, it makes me feel ignored you know' and she was angry/sad. But I'm not exaggerating when I say she was staring on that screen and sending voice messages and all that to other friends of her while we were dating."
GabrielOmarCY
Look Further
"Lack of curiosity/intellectual laziness. lack of empathy, excessively judgemental attitude, narcissism, treating others as subhuman, spewing hatred, excessive victim behavior, and/or unnecessary combativeness. Maybe I'm just picky."
SawgrassSteve
"Assuming that if they don't know it it isn't worth knowing/can't be interesting. Also adults - well into adulthood, whose excuse for not knowing something is that they weren't taught about it at school. If they taught you to read you can keep learning on your own, you know."
zeugma888
Hard No!
"It definitely (for me i’m talking friendships) depends on a couple things. how they respond to emotional situations (example is are they caring/comforting or being dismissive and not really trying to put anything into it?)... how they respond to boundaries, if they’re mean or judgmental of others, like if we were talking and walking and they randomly look at another person walking and insult them, that’s DEFINITELY a hard no."
chaoticwitchbrr
Tropes
Will Smith Smh GIF by The Academy AwardsGiphy"The 'hard to get' trope. like its one thing if there actually isn't mutual interest but when there is and someone makes you feel like you're working for their time and consideration, forget it."
cherrycreams0da
Coin Chat
"Talking about money. Pitching me business ideas. Speaking ill of people they view as lesser. Always comparing things they associate with prestige, and never speaking about anything of real substance."
FoldedaMillionTimes
Have any of these things ever happened to you? Let us know in the comments below.
Moviegoers go to the cinema to be transported and forget–even for about two hours–about either the mundanity of their everyday lives or the stress of problematic situations.
But if there's one thing cinephiles roll their eyes at while watching a movie, it's the predictable plot twist or a typical scenario often depicted in films that lack imagination.
Curious to hear examples, Redditor cnukles1 asked:
"What's a movie trope you are sick and tired of?"
Hollywood tends to glorify and dramatize violence almost comically.
Brief Inconvenience
"When someone is stabbed/shot, limps around in pain for 30 seconds, then continues on as if nothing happened."
– FioreFalinesti
Instant Death
"On the flipside, it drives me nuts when bad guys get shot in the torso and drop dead immediately. They'd realistically have at least a few seconds if not minutes of consciousness."
– itguy1991
Smooth Recovery
"People being knocked out for hours and no brain damage."
– TankApprehensive3571
That doesn't happen in real life.
Atypical Casting
"The broke 'Single Mom' who looks like she could model for Victoria's Secret. On the flip side, male gangsters, drug dealers or prisoners who look like they could win a state bodybuilding championship."
– Johhnymaddog316
Unnecessary Extravagance
"Or same broke single mom with an awesome house and perfect clothes/hair. Can't they ever just dress like normal people and living in normal homes?"
– Expensive_Structure2
Disarming Explosives
"Bombs with helpful color-coded wires."
– SuvenPan
Inconvenient Birth
"There's a pregnant woman and she goes into labor right at the worst possible time. For drama of course."
– RogueKatt
When actions depicted on the screen are not plausible.
The Struggle Is Real
"Just once I'd like to see somebody struggle to find parking in Los Angeles."
– stupidlyugly
The Structure Of Romance
"You're a jerk and I have no interest in you despite the fact that you are incredibly handsome, charming, and funny. We have to work together to save the world but make no mistake about it, I can't stand you. Let's just get this over with so I never have to see you again."
"Whoops, we f'ked. I guess we're in love now."
– DickySchmidt33
Love Connections
"Every disaster movie, the love interest always works at a hospital."
– Terrible-Ad-4879
Let's Communicate Better
"When a simple conversation could have entirely solved the central conflict of the movie."
– Katarassein
If everything happened on screen the way it does in real life, would it diminish your moviegoing experience?
Some people just like watching characters make believable choices. But if that's the case, you may as well go outside and film your own movie.
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Every new Hollywood movie seems to hinge an all-important balance: be novel and innovative, but not so experimental that people could ever feel alienated or too shocked.
After all, those movies are playing to old people, little kids, and the parents in between, all at the same time.
But some of those tropes that appear in every single movie--because they're reliable for filmmakers and comfortable for audiences--can begin to stick out once we've seen them enough.
A few Redditors gathered to share the movie tropes that annoy them most of all.
RB_Liz asked, "What movie tropes need to die in a horrendous explosion?"
Fantasy Films
"High school in movies is one big trope. I swear to god no one in the film industry has ever been to high school." -- Bloodragedragon
"They went to high-school so long ago they remember it through either rose or black-tinted glasses. It's either a nightmare of cliques and systematic bullying, or an idealised youth cult." -- LalaMcTease
"Yeah, I dont recall seeing so many 30 year olds in my senior year class." -- BaconReceptacle
This Needs Love
"Forced romance."
"Not every movie needs to have a romantic subplot. Few things can absolutely ruin an otherwise great movie like having one tacked on that clearly serves no purpose to the story."
-- lewton_bus
Plenty to Choose From
"Women going to bed/getting up with a full face of makeup, ridiculous banquet-like meals that people don't eat, obviously empty coffee cups, shi**y exposition where people talk like no one ever would in daily conversation ("Hi sis!")." -- ididitforcheese
"Empty coffee cups have been this minor annoyance of mine that has built over the years. Whenever anyone holds a drink in film these days, my eyes glue to how they hold the stupid thing." -- RB_Liz
When a Text Message Could've Ended the Film Right There
"Very basic miscommunication or misunderstandings being the basis of major plot points. It's just lazy, unrealistic writing that completely ruins immersion for me." -- VVillyD
"Yea, especially when someone tries to explain and the answer is 'I don't have time for this.' And the hole stupid plot would not exist if they had listened. I get so irritated by this, it's just not healthy." -- FlippyFlippenstein
We Love Us Some Speeches
"'Before you die Hero, let me tell you about my ingenious plan'..."
"villain starts monologing, Hero finds an opportunity to escape." -- icemage27
"Or the villain has an obvious chance to kill the main character, but just laughs and walks away." -- Mondayslasagna
"I feel like this one is more often parodied than presented straight at this point." -- Mddcat04
In What World
"The 'poor character' who lives in a normally expensive a** apartment." -- SomeRightsReserved
"Hollywood poor is renting in general not owning a 5 bed 4 bath" -- Arkneryyn
"And is covered in really well done tattoos."
"Quality tattoos cost a lot. Getting them discounted from bubba down the street is an option but they are not going to be high quality, more like weird smudges." -- Stayinschool-tty
How Convenient
"Gets in random car, keys are above the sun visor." -- kukukele
"Or gets in random car, hotwires it in 3 seconds." -- Mondayslasagna
"Gets in very old car in post Apocalypse that clearly hasn't been used for years. The battery works fine and it actually revs up." -- Tactical_Operations
"Dude worse than all of these: Gets in random car, NOBODY EVER HAS TO ADJUST THE SEAT. I don't think ever." -- OlympusMonsPubis
An Unbelievable Level of Skill
"Instant and silent death by a knife thrown from 30ft away." -- oblongunreal
"The amount of force required to stick a blade 5 inches into a carcass would surprise a lot of people. Then to do it with pin point accuracy from long distance?"
"All those assassins could have been the best major league baseball pitchers ever!" -- DerangeR14
Setting Feminism Back One Movie at a Time
"I hate the lifetime movie tropes, she's a strong independent woman who don't need no man....... and the next hour and a half is about how getting a man solves all her problems." -- demonardvark
"Introduce strong female character, who is intelligent, independent minded and very competent. She meets male lead."
"By end of movie: woman is entirely unable to do simple tasks without assistance from male lead, is dumb as a brick with no independent personality." -- BobbyP27
Single File, Gents
"When the main character is surrounded, but manages to fight off the bad guys because they attack him 1 at a time rather than all at once." -- Wheatleytron
"Well, it's polite to wait your turn. You don't want to crowd the guy." -- SadButterscotch2
"Every time this happens, I watch the goons in the background that aren't fighting the hero, just because they move in such ridiculous ways to give the illusion of extra action to the scene."
"They look like every guy at a club who tries to dance and has zero idea how to do so." -- PianoManGidley
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