Things People Don't Think About Enough During A Zombie Apocalypse
Reddit user bettercallme_ asked: 'What’s something people don’t really think about during a zombie apocalypse?'
As zombies and zombie apocalypses have become increasingly popular entertainment concepts, people have entertained the idea of what they would do if a zombie apocalypse would occur.
The truth of the matter is that nowhere near as many people who imagine themselves as being one of the leaders in the aftermath would even survive.
But there are countless other details most of us have never pondered if this were to become our reality.
Redditor bettercallme_ asked:
"What's something people don't really think about during a zombie apocalypse?"
All About Perspective
"Their credit score probably doesn't seem important any more."
- Guangtou22
Those Darn Telemarketers
"Your work will still ask if you're available to come in. Tom just got bit yesterday and we don't have anyone to cover his shift."
- Haydeos
"The banks still want their quarterly fees."
- TheInfamousMrKane
"Your gym will be calling you within the week."
- freedfg
"I want to see a movie with a zombie trying to knock on the door, and when nobody answers, he puts a business card in the crack of the door."
"The card says, 'I've been trying to get ahold of you about your car's extended warranty.'"
- series_hybrid
What Kind of Zombie?
"Most of us will be zombies and if they are slow zombies, it is very likely most survivors will be killed by fighting other survivors for supplies/resources."
- AlexRyang
"Zombie humans don't even worry me. Humans are completely useless without their brains. If it wasn't just humans and we had Zombie bears or Zombie dogs, then it gets real and I am concerned."
- Ok_Zoo_4059
Technological Withdrawals
"There won't be an easy access weather app/website."
"Any weather beyond a day away will be unpredictable. Rain, snowstorms, tornados, hurricanes, cold snaps, heatwaves, your ability to know what's coming will be drastically reduced."
- HandsLikePaper
Risks of Childbirth
"The dangers of any possible childbirth."
"The most I've seen on any show was something like, 'Oh no, she died,' and 'She lived and was up and running to kill zombies soon after,' with very little in-between that I can remember."
- dom618
Zombie Starvation
"If the zombie eats people, the tissue and muscle and organs, then they are leaving behind skeletons, or at best, severely damaged and incomplete corpses. So there couldn’t be many 'new' zombies, just more skeletons. It wouldn’t be that bad, really."
- gingerschnappes
"If zombies move, they need energy. So they can starve. Shouldn't take too long before they've used up all easily accessible sources of food and either starve or eat each other."
- jtinz
Natural Biological Progression
"Move to a hot and humid climate (like Florida, Georgia, or Alabama)."
"The wild animals and especially the maggots will reduce all undead to skeletons in a matter of months."
"Also, buzzards love the smell and taste of rotting flesh."
- TrailerParkBlazer
The Lack of Restroom Etiquette
"Zombies eat so they will eventually defecate. Most portrayals depict mindless automatons that likely wouldn't know to disrobe when going number two, so they would eventually be walking around with poop-stuffed pants and underwear."
- ThroughHuawai
"You'll eventually have to poop."
"There is no comfortable poop ritual here. There are no 'man poops' where you get to hide in the bathroom for a f**king hour."
"There are no snacks and there is no scrolling TikTok."
- marilern1987
The Need for Full Body Scans
"Realistically, people that get bitten and hide it from their group then turn when they are asleep or somesuch thing."
"Incorporate full-body searches after contact."
- Zim91
"100% full strip down and inspection of anyone living showing up at gates, even if just returning from a scouting run."
"That being said, probs not very interesting for tv/movies, and just checking arms and legs, or quarantining, waiting out the turn-timer works okay as a visual substitute."
- HDPbBronzebreak
"The number of times an arm and leg search was done and a bite would get missed would always have me yelling at the TV, haha. Seriously, disarm and strip."
- Zim91
Necessary Community-Building
"If we really go 'every man for himself,' we’ll all f**king die. Not even ancient humans did that s**t."
"We’d have to all come together in our towns and cities in order to make it. I think people in third world countries will probably survive, first world people will lose their s**t and kill each other off one by one."
- ilikebugssometimes
Lack of Medical Provisions
"Glasses, break those you're never getting a new pair, most people are just useless after that."
"Past that, cigarettes, pharmaceutical drugs, and alcohol not being readily available."
- NotAMaster
"How f**ked we're gonna be when we run out of basic medicine, do you know how to make penicillin? No? Enjoy dying from the same s**t medieval peasants died from."
- DiscardedRibs
"People with chronic diseases dying from lack of meds after a few weeks or months. Diabetics, for example, that rely on insulin or metformin. I'm type two, not sure how long I'd last without metformin and a variety of food choices that allow me to eat and keep my blood sugar in control. Months? A couple of years?"
- revtim
An Imbalanced Ecosystem
"Being overrun with rodents. With no predators, the rats and mice will breed uncontrolled in the grocery stores. The produce will all rot and attract insects. Food in boxes or plastic packaging will be chewed open. Within a few weeks, the food that will still be viable will all be canned."
"Then after a few generations of rodents, the cats, coyotes, and higher order predators will begin to breed like crazy, because they now have no controls and an ever-expanding food source."
- Outlander56
Practical Looting
"No one ever thinks to loot a scuba store for shark proof chain mail suits."
- RollOverBeethoven
"Someone needs to remember to bring a can opener."
- GoAwayWhiteDonute
"Drinking water. All lakes and rivers are possibly infected during the apocalypse. How long can humans live without drinking water."
- capiburus
Think About the Children
"My kids can't be quiet for ten seconds. We'd be dead within a week."
- WinstonBucksworth
"My nephew is especially autistic and basically screamed and cried at ear-crackling decibels for the first ten or so years. I once remarked that if there were zombies, or anything hunting us, he'd get us killed immediately."
- Windfade
"My 14-year-old loves the zombie genre. Her one-year-old sister was teething and bawling last week, and she turned around and said, 'I'm sorry Mom, but if a zombie apocalypse happens, I think we have to leave you and my two youngest sisters at home. They're gonna get us killed!'"
"Fair enough, lol."
- Maple3232
More Harm to Nature
"Lots of people are gonna try and go to the woods and start building fires whic will inevitably get out of hand causing wildfires."
- Strange_Stage1311
"Or more likely, they will start to run out of food, a lot of people think that you and some other hundreds (or thousands) can survive in the middle of the forest with no much effort, just picking berries and catching rabbits."
"In a scenario like that, they will quickly find out why farming was the biggest thing happening 10,000 years ago and why our society leveled so many forests for more farmland."
"In fact, the book of 'World War Z' has a chapter about that, a lot of Canadian families drive to the north to hide in the woods, and everything is nice and chill for like two weeks, then, people start to run out of food..."
- EduHi
It's obvious that there's potentially much more to this genre than has been covered in movies, TV shows, and books.
Science fiction and dystopian writers should take notes and start working on the next great zombie novel!
Lots of people think they could survive an apocalypse, some even delight in coming up with in-depth plans for exactly how they would go about it.
But there are a lot of angles most people don’t consider.
Redditor breathematt asked:
"What is something nobody considers when talking about surviving an apocalypse?"
Out of sight...
"GLASSES!"
"I don’t see a thing without mine, in an apocalypse I would be down right away for sure."
"Imagine being in the middle of an apocalypse and you can’t see a thing because your glasses got fogged?"
krpfc
The Internet Is For...Knowledge
"How much knowledge we'll lose without the Internet. How much knowledge based textbooks will be hoarded and even fought over"
- honeybutterbuscuit
"The sad thing is less and less knowledge and information is going on paper. A lot of people run everything through their phones. Bills online, online pay stubs, online banking. If everything is wiped there probably isn’t a record of it elsewhere."
"A lot of media, music, books, shows, movies don’t even make it to any type of hard copy. It’s just on a site somewhere. And EMP would just destroy everything that’s not on paper or physical."
- User Deleted
"When I moved recently I threw away an entire encyclopedia. I got sad for a min. If there's ever a next Dark Age, Landfills will def be mined for knowledge and resources."
- captainawesome1983
Rats...So Many Rats
"One of the biggest things that very few books and movies touch on is pests."
"In an apocalypse where a disease ravages the world and leaves most people dead, the insects and rodents will have a feast for a fair while and their populations will explode."
"Billions of dead bodies laying unburied will provide them with food for several months. There will be massive swarms of flies. Ant nests will grow to the point where stepping into a building they are in will be a death sentence unless you know they are there and are properly prepared for it.""But the biggest threat would be rats. They breed quickly, grow quickly and can get into damn near anywhere. The bodies will provide them with a readily available food source. A colony of a few thousand rats would quickly grow to tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands. Nothing remotely edible will remain anywhere near them. Once they are everything in one area, they’d spill over and swarm into the next. There’s no real way to stay safe from the rat swarms that would form in cities."
"In a zombie apocalypse, the rat swarms would be smaller, but they’d still form, and you’d have the added worry of whether or not rats carried the disease."
"In any other form of apocalypse that didn’t involve people being teleported away or the 'earth becomes a video game world' type, a lot of people will still die. It might take longer, and the swarms might be smaller, but they will still be a threat."
"Edit: I just did a quick google and it’s worse than I thought. Rats reach sexual maturity in just 5-6 weeks. A single pair of rats can start a colony that grows to around 1,250 in a single year. That can then grow to 500 million in just three years."
"New York City has an estimated rat population of 2 million. The swarms there after a single year would be mind boggling."
- Jungleman6
Your Own Body Might Kill You
"Medical conditions which are routinely and easily treatable will most likely kill you now. I'm looking at you, Mr. Appendix..."
- KoalaDeluxe
"There’s a scene in The Stand (the book, I don’t remember if this made it into the filmed versions) with this exact situation."
- AMerrickanGirl
"Diarrhea will kill a lot of people"
- hasta-la-cheesta
The Slug Isn't The Only Part Of The Bullet
"Making gunpowder for your gun. You can always melt down lead and make reloads, but where are you gonna get the gunpowder and primers from? Of course, folks will initially hoard ammo, and gunpowder so they can do reloads; but eventually all the gunpowder gets used up."
"Now, of course, you can try and make your own, but if the formula is off just a bit, your velocity can be substantially different than what's desired, or, just blow up in yo face!"
- BinjiC0D3R
No More Immunity
"Any child born will have no vaccinations. Likely, there will be a boom in previously preventable diseases like tetanus and diphtheria."
- captain_chocolate
Cooperation Is Key
"People who can cooperate in small (<150) tribal units will do better. Rugged individualism is and has always been a myth."
"Obviously for a period there will be warlords (looking at you Idaho) , but as fuel, food and ammo runs out these autocratic individuals will fail. Plus the heavily armed survivalist types will likely feud among themselves, thus reducing their numbers relatively quickly."
- noun_verbnoun
"I came to say this. Humans are social animals and 10 people trying to solve a problem together will do better than 20 individuals. Sure, it'll be rough at the start, but we already know the benefits of farming and specialization. Plus, we'll be able to mine/restore existing infrastructure."
- I_Want_an_Elio
You're Not Getting Out
"You're not going to escape your city. The roads will all be clogged up by people who also think they can escape. No one will go anywhere, and you'll all starve together and die of poor sanitation disease."
- Surprise_Corgi
People Will Do Extreme Things In Extreme Situations
"I think it’s considered but not really openly discussed and it’s the fact that no matter how nice or good of a person any of us are most of us would murder other people for supplies. Not a person here would let their kid die while they knew a guy down the road had antibiotics and refused to share or trade."
- JudokaPickle
Even if you think you’ve got your apocalypse survival planned down to the most minute detail, there might still be something you’re forgetting.
People Debate Which Things Could Function As Currency During An Apocalypse
If that pandemic taught any of us anything, is that supplies can, in fact, be limited.
Not everything in our world will always be readily available and sometimes that means planning for the future.
So what happens when the "Event" happens, the world falls apart, and money, gold, jewels, all of it, becomes completely and totally worthless?
What should we stockpile to use as currency then?
Reddit user, yanmak, wanted to know what we could use to finance the future should things go wrong when they asked:
"In case of an apocalypse, what could function as a form of currency?"
It can be hard choosing, honestly, because we don't know how the world would end to start. Nuclear fallout? Disease? Zombies? The Director's Cut of the 'Cats' movie?
Depends On How We All Die
"Depends on the kind of apocalypse to be honest"
"War torn societal collapse? Likely ammo and guns"
"Post nuclear? Likely safe food and water"
Omnizoom
Do Something For Me, I'll Do Something For You
"It’d be a barter system I think"
Weak_Carpenter_7060
"Exactly! I can't understand the preppers who hoard gold. Come to me with a lump of gold after the collapse of society, and I'll give you f-ck all for it."
Big_Caregiver_2725
"Sure but currency is just the barter system made convenient. They're not two separate things."
""I'll trade you these sacks of potatoes for fixing my well.""
""I don't need potatoes.""
""Ok, so let me go trade these potatoes for something else then give you that to fix the well?""
""Just give me a universal IOU for the value of the potatoes/well fix and I'll trade it elsewhere for something I do need.""
paigezero
Strangely Enough, We Might Have Some Experience Here...
"If the early pandemic taught me anything, it's that Chef Boyardi Spaghetti and Meatballs will be the currency of the apocalypse"
Trust-Me-Im-A-Potato
"Nah man It's going to be toilet paper"
Early-AssignmentTA
We all like stuff, right? Who doesn't like stuff?
Of course, that means the right kind of stuff will be highly valued among the right kind of foragers.
Pay Me In Nicotine!
"Depends on the type of apocalypse. Food, medication, ammunition, lead... in post WWII Germany, they used cigarettes sometimes."
Aibeit
"And chocolate. My grandfather paid a German ex-soldier in chocolate to act as his assistant"
Momik
Enough Spices Could Fix Anything
"Spices/salt, silver/gold, ammo, medications, gasoline/solar power. Food and clean water to a lesser extent after the initial adjustment period. (Simply put, people will either figure out how to grow food or clean water or they'll die.) Eventually knowledge will become a great bartering tool; the guy who knows how to build a water wheel or the lady who can sew clothes will be given priority over the lawyer."
shadowheart1
Burn, Baby, Burn
"I was told by an ex military friend of mine who served as a peacekeeper in a few warzones that "matches" are always a reliable one when things really fall apart."
Kailoi
What Gamers May Suggest
"Bottle caps. If you up vote this you are gay."
– pokemon12312345645
Definitely Tradable
"I will be growing marijuana, opium, tobacco, and coffee. Not a currency per day but tradables. Edit: I will also be growing fruits and vegetables. I mentioned the first four because they aren't always thought of for SHTF but they are still valuables."
– Shaynon17
Top Nine
"VHS copies of Beetlejuice"
"Crisp high fives"
"Frenzal Rhomb CDs"
"Hula hoops"
"Trail mix"
"Post-It Notes"
"Casey's pizza box tops"
"Pogs. Anyone remember pogs? I had a sh*tload of those."
"Words. (This is based on a short story a buddy of mine wrote once where words were currency - the better spoken or written you were, the richer you were.)"
– Smooth-Impact2435
Back To Simplicity
"Decline of civilisation and collapse of centralised currency? Well let me tell you pal I have 0.001244 bitcoin and 3 dogecoin. Unfortunately we have no power or Internet so I guess I'll just go around selling old tins of food."
– Scientist2021
It feels sort of silly to think of, but we already have a really good system in place.
Maybe we should try to get back to that?
The Obvious Answer Is, "We All Have To Eat."
"NFTs"
"By which I mean Nonperishable Food Tins, of course."
Cowy_the_Cow
"I was scared, for a second, I thought people expected a working internet after an apocalypse lol."
"Yes, food will be the world currency. Oh and guns, you can rob and be robbed as well as barter... good luck trusting anyone."
L0ckeandDemosthenes
Antibiotics
"Unless the apocalypse was caused by an antibiotic resistant bacteria."
– AsteroidTicker
What Mother Nature Intended
"Leaves obviously. Be careful about inflation though. You might have to burn down some forests to avoid it."
– PadanFain667
"Sex Is Not Fungible" Is Your Internet Line Of The Day
"drugs, sex, food, clean water..."
multia-z
"Water is too heavy to use as currency."
"Sex is not fungible and cannot be accumulated."
"Non perishable food or healthy seeds could be used as currency."
"Pre-apocalypse drugs could be currency for a while but they are perishable and probably won't be abundant long enough to be currency. Drugs produced after the apocalypse would have too much risk of counterfeiting."
"Bullets would probably be currency for at least the first decade or two. Abundant. Intrinsic value. Difficult to fake. Light enough to carry. Long lasting."
confusedbytheBasics
We Need To Get Back To Basics
"It starts with food, water, safety in a barter system."
"Eventually you would have small communities which would pool resources (no barter within the community). People who are good at farming farm for the community, people who are good at shooting protect the community."
"As those communities get large enough and needs become less immediate (I want to eat my meals at a table instead of just wanting a meal), each community would develop some type of currency. This happens because "how many bullets in exchange for one table?" is a silly question ... especially if you already have a table ... or if you make tables and don't know how a gun works. But, you can sell a table for 100 currency, and buy 3 chickens, 2 sets of curtains, and a bag of potatoes (none of which the bullet guy had)."
"At this point you pick something relatively rare (some kind of metal, maybe), form it into a regulated size, put an identifying mark on it ... bang, currency."
give_me_two
When the big one drops, good luck to all of you. Start saving all your matchbooks while you can.
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People Describe Their Zombie Apocalypse Survival Plans
The likelihood of a zombie apocalypse is realistically pretty low.
But it's still something many people have thought about in great detail.
Let's be honest—most of us have at least a basic zombie apocalypse survival plan.
Redditor Spiritual_Put_838 asked:
"You switch on a news channel and it shows news of a zombie outbreak on the other side of the world. What are the steps you take to ensure safety for when it hits your area?"
Before The Pandemic We'd Laugh At This
"Buy all the toilet paper." ~ pigeon323
"First response to any crisis." ~ shoephone7
GiphyCan Zombies Climb?
"Remove the stairs in my house and outside my house. It's all about rope ladders from now on." ~ FranksRedWorkAccount
"Bruh, thats like text book zombie survival 101. Ive had a zombie survival plan for my area for over 10 years and thats the key thing you are looking for in a safe house." ~ Bahnd
Unlimited Power
"Surround the house with treadmills." ~ Strange_Rutabaga_826
"Use zombies walking to power your house." ~ Dragon_Magician
"That's genius!" ~ FranksRedWorkAccount
GiphyAre Zombears Real?
"Put air in my bike tires and get some bite proof body armor."
"Put a wagon on my bike and fill it up with cans of baked beans."
"Ride into the woods and build a tree house."
"Cans of baked beans provide sustenance and are a projectile."
"If I have time set up a bunch of bear traps."
"I don't want any bears to get me." ~ ac1084
Know Your Zombies
"It really depends on the temperament of the zombies."
"Are these 28 Days Later zombies or Walking Dead zombies?" ~ Surveymonkee
"Honestly I'd rather The Walking Dead zombies."
"Even though we're all already infected, I totally would rather that than those psychotic scary 28 Days Later ones."
"Also it's easy to trick The Walking Dead zombies by just wearing zombie skin and blood."
"So I'd definitely pick them." ~ TheHippoIsPink
Giphy"I stopped watching The Walking Dead after discovering this…"
"Why doesn’t everybody just have a zombie suit or zombie blood that they put on, go about their business?"
"Although, nowadays, I get it."
"If we can’t even be bothered to put on a mask during a pandemic, who the Hell is going to put on the zombie suit?" ~ Bangbangsmashsmash
Ain't Nobody Got Time For Zombies
"I would just peace out. I'm not dealing with zombies." ~ DimensionalLynx169
"I’ve had this convo with my fiancé and I say the same thing. If it gets to the point where we’re in danger, just put me to sleep."
"I won’t survive and I don’t want to be a zombie, either. He doesn’t like that I wouldn’t attempt to survive, lol." ~ sn0wgh0ul13
"My answer as well. We have young kids that would make it way too hard to survive."
"I absolutely despise thinking that way, but I would rather we all go out together (something peaceful, like in the garage with the car running, listening to our favorite music) than live in fear everyday, or live with the absolute despair of losing each other one at a time." ~ iakonu_hale
"That's what my take on it is. I'd rather just take myself outta the equation. I don't see the purpose of needlessly putting myself through all of that."
"Especially when realistically nobody I love or care about will be around, and all there is to look forward to is more fear and an apocalyptic Earth." ~ DimensionalLynx169
Alternate Food Sources
"Get the Shovel. Time to eat some freaking worms." ~ dragonpolic3
"That's one point I simply don't understand in zombie movies. Insects are a solid food source, and yet every movie, people are hunting for canned food, animals and so on. Make a garden, have some livestock and eat insects if need be." ~ Mizzen_Twixietrap
"I'm not saying you're wrong, but if I had to choose between eating insects or a can of beans I found, I would choose the beans everytime." ~ pulseout
"Humans can also eat over three hundred thousand types of plants. We've just forgotten. Birds rats mice lizards small animals make good meals as well."
"If you're going to eat worms wash out the dirt first. A lot of insects taste terrible by the way." ~ keyboardstatic
"It all depends for me. I'll eat ants and whatnot but anything like grubs, centipedes, or spiders... I'll just let myself starve." ~ ThatAltAccount99
GiphyWho Decided To Use Logic?
"In a realistic scenario, wouldn't Zombies be unable to move because their muscles would be rotting and sh*t??"
"So realistically wouldn't this problem solve itself by dying out in the country of origin?" ~ SubsforLunch
It Worked For Shaun—Sort Of
"Take car."
"Grab Liz"
"Go to mum's."
"Kill Phil."
"Go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over." ~ GekoXV
GiphyBarricade
"Probably run to the store and buy as much barbed wire, posts and other fencing material I can. Then maybe grab some gun care stuff. Some toilet paper."
"If I can’t do that, just grab my partner and our loved ones, pack up and head over to my parent's house." ~ BcrackWithTeeth
"Unless these zombies are magical the outbreak won't last morethan a couple months as
- Theywouldn't be consuming nutrients vital to the upkeep of their bodies.
- Unless the virus keeps almost all of your organs functioning decay is going to set in real real fast. And
- Zombies dont give a damn about their bodies and would destroy their limbs pretty fast."
"So bunker down as best I can, and if the zombies have a mechanism for keeping their bodies running probably kill myself as I'm intelligent enough to understand that I'm too stupid and under equipped to give myself a good chance at survival in that kind of world."
"And my attempt at survival would probably just mean another zombie coming at the people that CAN survive." ~ doktarlooney
Convoy
"Tell truckers that the zombies will force them to wearmasks." ~ powdereddog
Nope
"Nice try, I’m not risking you turning into a zombie and knowing what I’m up to." ~ Kalsor
Pandemic Lessons
"All you need is good body armour."
"Human teeth aren't that good." ~ keyboardstatic
"If this pandemic has done anything, it's reinforced the trope that there will always be someone who is 'infected' in your group who won't say anything and keep quiet until the last possible moment and end up being a danger."
"Also, infected people have sudden urges to head to the nearest airport." ~ PanzerBiscuit
"Pfft. If the pandemic taught me anything, it's that people are stupid and selfish (which I probably should have known already, but...) and if they're reporting on a zombie outbreak on the other side of the planet, some a**hole just got off a plane in my area with an active, festering bite."
"I mean, I'd try to fortify the house, but like... the zombies are already here, man." ~ Kaertos
"That’s why one of the requirements for survival groups should be a complete strip search for any new arrivals (to find hidden bites/scratches), and a quarantine for however long it takes for symptoms to manifest, the quarantine facility should be as pleasant as possible, to minimize resistance."
"For exploratory crews returning from runs, same thing, full body screen for exposure, if they pass, no quarantine as they’ve already passed, if there’s even the slightest suspicion of contamination or exposure, quarantine would be required." ~ MacTechG4
"We can't get idiots to wear masks when it would save their own families lives, you think they're gonna be willing to strip down in front of Jesus?"
"Humanity is f'king doomed. We're never going to get off this rock as a species and that's a damn good thing for the rest of the universe." ~ DildoDouchBaggins
"And there'd be a ton of people screaming 'I won't live in fear' marching right into the zombies." ~ DMercenary
"All the people denying that zombies are real even as one is chewing off their arm." ~ DreamCyclone84
"I’d invest in ‘Zombies aren’t real’ and ‘Who are the real zombies?’ signs and sell them to Republicans." ~ Hill_Reps_For_Jesus
GiphyAs for me, I'd just stay put.
I live in Maine where there are plenty of trees, plenty of homes with wood stoves or fireplaces, lots of guns, subzero temperatures and several feet of snow.
Have you ever seen a zombie on skis or snowshoes?
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I've seen enough end-of-the-world movies to know that when the end does come that The Rock will not be there to save my lazy self from impending doom.
Life isn't like the movies, sad to say. The relationship humans have to the world is remarkably unhealthy, and as we continue to reckon with the consequences of big business running the world, exploiting resources, and pushing us ever further toward climate catastrophe—
*takes a deep breath*
Sorry, got a bit carried away there... the anxiety is real.
I promise there are some more humorous answers sprinkled in this article, thanks to the efforts of Redditor User34884, who asked the online community:
"What will cause the fall of Western civilization?"
"As someone raised..."
"Not just Facebook. The whole internet has a role to play, from social media to hacker access points to constant entertainment to the collapse of locally owned businesses to such dependence on google that we no longer know how to do anything or deal with uncertainty or even read a map.
As someone raised before the internet was a thing, who had a front-row seat during the radical changes of the last 35 years, I truly believe the internet is the most amazing thing humanity has ever created and it will be our downfall."
Seeing the power big tech companies have over our discourse is remarkably unsettling.
"A lot of us..."
"Getting too comfortable. A lot of us don't know how good we've got it already, and fail to realize how bad it can really get."
This is true. If quality of life dips, a lot of people will not know how to handle it.
"A rogue nation..."
"A rogue nation + A bunch of nukes.
Haven't seen this one on here yet, it has some potential."
"If artificial intelligence..."
"If artificial intelligence doesn't wake up and destroy the species, I think western civilization will fall because it will stop doing all the things that made it rise."
After watching Westworld, I can see it.
"I doubt..."
"I think we might just be seeing it. Mass migration for climate and poverty issues. Rising prices and supply problems causing civil unrest. Increasing political division.
I doubt it will be a collapse, but I think there will be a major world-changing 'event' building up."
We are already seeing it, and it's exacerbating tensions worldwide.
"Making sweeping decisions..."
"Post-truth politics. Making sweeping decisions of global impact based on emotion and 'doing your own research' rather than paying mind to experts and specialists."
"The most likely thing..."
"The most likely thing... climate change. Climate change making fresh water and arable land very scarce. This will cause violent migration of billions of people, particularly those who live in deserts or places that get destroyed by pollution or natural disaster. This will of course lead to war, as the places with arable land and fresh water will want to defend their resource for their own population, but migrants will face certain death if they don't move, so they'll fight to the death for their survival."
This is the big one for me. Now we just wait.
We have already passed some irreversible tipping points.
"Influencer culture..."
"Inability for most people to differentiate truth from fiction.
News overload means we just read headlines.
Influencer culture means everyone is writing from a platform. Even those who lack insight or perspective.
Data illiteracy means statistics can be abused to mislead us.
And social media is like a collective consciousness that failed because each node can adulterate what it sends to the collective. And nodes can lie."
"Which is of course..."
"Ignorance. Which is of course ironic since we have a lot of excellent schools and sources of information, but too many people sticking to believing BS that suits them instead."
"As a result..."
"Western Civilisation.
The downside of freedom, capitalism, and democracy etc. is that it can be very easily turned against a nation from the outside as by its nature there is a lack of control on the general population.
As a result, we have very little to offer to stop enemy activity. As long you are following the rules you can entirely destroy the west. While groups that don't put high stakes in freedom can just block any group they don't like to defend themselves like that.
Ultimately this will be a game the west won't win from nations like China. Which have already mastered it."
Sorry to depress you.
I think we just all might be tired of living through such major historical events. These are truly interesting times.
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