People Share The Strangest Things They've Ever Seen In A Contract's Terms And Conditions

When we purchase the latest hi-tech gadgets, we tend to toss aside the accompanying reading materials like the terms and conditions.
Or when it comes to signing a new lease for an apartment, some of us immediately scroll to the dotted line to leave our John Hancock without reading all of the fine print.
Whether they're contracts or literature that come with purchased products, do we ever really bother to read the detailed policies?
In an era of instant gratification, who has the time? But what we really should be asking is, what are we missing out on?
For those who do practice their due diligence, they may find some fascinating information – and in some cases, are rewarded for it.
Curious about what others have found while perusing through the nitty gritty, Redditor Dunnaghlasman asked:
"People who read the Terms and Conditions of things, what weird things did you see?"
Toxic Paint
"PPG (paint company) does not allow their paint to be used on terrorist, biohazard or nuclear facilities."
– lsellati
Sign First, Discuss Later
"I was asked to sign a petition for something that I generally was in agreement with, until I read the last part of it, that read something like, 'the chairman of the committee reserves the right to change the wording of this petition.'"
"So it was like, 'sign here, and we'll figure out what you signed later.'"
Java Restriction
"You cannot use the Java programming language to control a nuclear reactor."
Windows Limitation
"I read the terms and conditions for either Windows 95 or the Windows 98 upgrade. Somewhere buried deep in the middle was a warning that the operating system should not be used to operate a nuclear power plant. I'm assuming it was a joke because it was an individually licensed product rather than a corporate license, and if they were serious about it, I would think that warning would be at the top!"
Beware of Hacks
"For no reason at all I read them for a PlayStation Network update. About the 7th page in, it stated that I would be 'relinquishing my wallet and all funds within.' I didn't update but just assumed it was fancy legal talk(mind you I was in my late teens) so I didn't report it. 3 days later I found out that the update was a hack and thousands had their information stole of their PlayStation accounts."
Double Whammy
"My daycare's release form had a clause saying that by signing, I was giving them permission to take my kids to Canada. Canada is a day's drive away and there is absolutely no reason they would ever need to take my kids there. I crossed it off before signing."
"My mortgage documents included a clause that says that, if I ever get sued, they have the right to accelerate the loan and demand payment of the entire remaining balance. It doesn't matter if the law suit is meritorious. Just getting sued can lead to acceleration."
The Tesla Ownership Explained
"Tesla, (and to various extents, other anti-right-to-repair companies like Mercedes, Apple, John Deere, etc.) hold that their products are intellectual property and cannot be owned by customers, instead claiming that they are effectively leased to buyers."
"Tesla has on on multiple occasions (illegally) disabled features of cars being sold used because of this."
Posthumous Debts
"On my apartment rent agreement, there was one part that basically said: If you (the renter) dies then your family is responsible for paying the rest of the rent left on your contract."
Proper Noun
"Accordingly to Photoshop ToS, you can't use Photoshop as a verb and must say 'edited with Photoshop' or similar instead of 'Photoshopped.' In Spanish it's common to use it as a verb, 'photoshoppear.'"
– Bitomic
The Canadian Obstacle
"I'm an auto mechanic, I regularly purchase tools from tool trucks. Sometimes there's little giveaways if you spend x amount you get this scratch off ticket that could win you something blah blah."
"One time I was reading the fine print at the bottom, usual legalese stuff then the last line cracked me up - said something like 'residents of Canada will be required to complete a series of mathematical questions in order to claim their prize.'"
"What the hell did Canada do to require being punished to win a prize?"
Reading Has Rewards
"The terms and conditions for the rewards card at the grocery store I worked had 'if you've actually taken the time to read this, please email (email) with this code and the pin for your card for $500 in rewards points.'"
"And it actually did, then I started getting a new card every other month or so. Then they changed who the rewards program was with."
Dead Serious
"The company I work for has emergency store closure procedures for in case of a zombie outbreak."
"When I discovered it I laughed and asked my boss why they put this joke in with all these serious guidelines. She was dead serious when she explained that this was a real procedure and you honestly never know. I thought she was messing with me. Apparently, I never noticed it printed in out backroom. It's required to be printed and posted in the backroom of all the company's stores."
The Gym Contract
"I read the terms and conditions before joining a gym. It said the only reason you could cancel your membership is if you moved out of the area or got injured and had a note from a doctor. Otherwise, you had to give 30 days' notice and pay 3 additional months' worth of fees. I did not join."
Canada's Got Talent ... and All Eyes On You
"I considered auditioning for the first season of Canada's Got Talent. I got the contract for auditions and read the fine print."
"'You will pay your own room, board and travel. You agree to being on camera 24/7. We can listen to your private phone calls. We can enter your room at any time to check on you and record it.'"
"I noped out of that audition fast."
– jenskal
Bodily Fluids
"I read the warranty for my motherboard once. It said it does not cover damage from bodily fluids including urine and vomit."
In Case of an Apocalypse
"One of my old jobs said that if there was ever a contagion that resulted in people losing their minds and acting like violent, mindless, swarming animals (i.e. zombies or infected) then we would be expected to hide in bunkers, rescue our clients and not kill anyone."
S&D Chat
Spybot S&D asks that you send the devs beer money.
Is that still around? Haven't used it in forever.
Also, I'm on mobile and too lazy to Google. I got more of this thread to read first and I'll probably forget about this before I'm done.
Apple Law
You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.
This is from the Terms and Conditions for Apple's iTunes.
For references: https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html
To the Cinema
Ts and Cs for a cinema in the UK. After purchasing a ticket and choosing your seat/seats the cinema doesn't guarantee you the seats you have chosen will be available and you are encouraged to find a different seat if the one on your ticket is taken.
Alls not Wells
You can always trust Wells Fargo to serve up some real bull crap. This article shows where they screwed some people in their mortgage terms and conditions, and also briefly mentions their debit card scam.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/business/wells-fargo-loan-mortgage.html
Well this is getting some attention so I'll just leave this old gem here as well:
READ FIRST
So I know a few years back there was a report of a dude who read through the whole thing and actually earned a cash prize for reading it in the fine print.
I don't know the exact details. not even sure if its true or not but maybe someone has evidence.
WoW
WordWeb free version may be used indefinitely only by people who take at most two commercial flights (not more than one return flight) in any 12 month period. People who fly more than this need to purchase the Pro version if they wish to continue to use it after a 30-day trial period. que_pedo_wey
Shady Terms
It's probably best to actually read them, but I really like using this site where they essentially provide you a TL;DR of terms & conditions from popular websites. They also grade sites on how shady their terms may be.
EULA
There was a Windows update about 15-20 years ago that had a clause buried in the EULA that you agree not to release any benchmarking figures. What really sticks in my mind though is that I used to submit a lot of stories to Slashdot at the time, and for some reason they wouldn't report that. Weird.
Listen to Aesop
This isn't quite the same, but when I was a kid I had a really cool, creepy picture book that was a satire of Aesop's fables called Squids Will Be Squids, with morals like "if someone calls and asks where your mother is, don't tell them she is out getting her moustache bleached" etc etc. Anyway, one day I was reading the small print publication stuff you get in the front of every book and there's a note from the author's in it about why nobody ever reads that page, with the moral that "you should always read the small print." Which of course I now do (for books at least), although tbf there has yet to be a payoff as good as that one.
Steamed....
Technically Steam owns any and all games that you "purchase" from them. What you purchase is basically a copy of one of their games, and they reserve the right to access your library and do whatever.
because they can
Discord's Terms of Service are worded in such a way that they can literally say whatever they want is a breach of contract on a whim.
Discord can decide you have broken the Term's of Service however they so choose. You can have an entire server dedicated to something harmless, say, puppy photos, and they have the capacity to do whatever it is their punishments and sanctions propose because they can.
Save the fur babies....
I have dog shampoo that says "this product not tested on animals." But why not? How do you know it works?? Purposely putting cosmetics in an animal's eyes, or forcing them to ingest it or whatever is cruel and unnecessary. But how are you supposed to know that this dog shampoo is a safe and effective way to clean a dog if you've never tested it by using it to wash a dog??
Sinner
Not really a TOS, but the old Doom II for DOS had this screen saying that if you pirated the game, you would go to hell. It would show up after you exit the game. The first Doom also had a similar screen, lol
Reasonable?
I think in my country there is a general law that terms and conditions must be "reasonable" so that conditions like "giving away your first born" does not apply anyway.
Trouble is, reasonable means whatever you can convince a jury and or judge is reasonable. So it comes down to who has better lawyers i.e more money.
Buried Deep
I was searching for a web host for my website and found a discount code buried in the content policy. It was pretty neat, even if they were the kind of place that has at least 3 discounts available at a time.
The Rip-off....
Not exactly weird but when I was buying my car insurance they asked if I had been in any previous accidents (I was) and if I was at fault (I was not). Said rates would only go up if the accident was my fault. Okay cool. So at the end when I'm looking everything over, I notice in the fine print that it says any accidents are automatically considered the driver's fault unless proven otherwise... so I send them an email and ask.
Basically they said I'd have to purchase the policy, THEN contact them with the proof that I wasn't at fault for the accident. So I bought the policy, went to my state's DMV website to get the accident report, and email it to the insurance company- one week later I get "refunded" about 1/5 of the policy cost credited to my account. I wonder how many people they've ripped off.
Um No....
Once I installed an App, I think it was a game, asked me to edit, add, delete or format everything from my google drive.
NOPE.
The same app had other horrible terms with other apps, like with Facebook, or Instagram (basically buy your personal info from Mark).
G-suite and everything.
It was when I was setting up android work profile (The high school I'm attending rn issued us emails that route the emails through their servers) for online school. G-suite and everything. I couldn't rlly avoid the work profile thing cuz android wanted me to set it up.
Enough with context here.
I downloaded google device policy to set this up and I saw, and I quote.
"Administrators on this domain can have access to any and all data on your phone."
I was like, Hell no! They do random phone searches of the students already why give them full access!?
I then decided to do the online class stuff on my computer and do it web-based instead of giving them full access to my phone.
Lunar Terms
Apple's terms and conditions have plenty of jokes in them. They even made one about faking the moon landing.
Having a ToS
The school app for a district I worked in had a ToS that essentially said that I agreed to their accessing anything on my phone or deleting what they choose, as well as using anything they find on my phone as evidence against me if they so choose to.access any other apps, documents, downloads, photos, etc... Co-workers said I was being paranoid, but the ToS for the same app in a different district had no such notation, so I don't know.
Giving Permission
These are a few paraphrased versions of what I had to sign in order to live on campus at my university:
I give my school permission to charge me legal fees that have nothing to do with me. They also say everyone I know has given up the right to sue the school. They can kick me out at anytime with little warning, and if I do not leave with in a few days I have to pay a +$100 fee. They are not responsible for working amenities such as water. I am aware the school does not own there own dorms, even though the office that handles room and board claims otherwise.
League-of-Legends
Don't remember the exact wording, but some League-of-Legends-type game included this whole paragraph about how, by installing this software, you authorize us to monitor every process on your computer, including but not limited to keystrokes, active programs, some of their memory, browser tabs, open files and potentially their contents, and send that info back, at all times, even if the game wasn't running.
Safe to assume I did not click agree, and managed to live life having never played that game.
Til 2024
I found out our five year contract for argon gas automatically renews if we don't cancel 365 days before the end date. A salesman was fired from the company and told me I should read the very fine print. One year in and we sent our our cancellation form for 2024.
take the spirit....
Gamestation (an old video game store in the UK) had an immortal soul clause. They own thousands of peoples souls!
https://bit-tech.net/news/gaming/pc/gamestation-we-own-your-soul/1/
On the Menu
I read ingredients at back of the container (shampoo,creams,food etc) because I don't have anything better to do. But I know how they scam people. Read the ingredients people.
Sign Off Please
You agree by signing this contract to have your personal information including but not limited to, photographs, public information, address and email to be shared with third parties that may not be disclosed to you.
This was to allow a company I engaged with to send me regular products for testing and giving feedback on prior to going on the open market.
The ReadMe File
Not quite Terms & Conditions, but an old-school PC space simulator game from 1995 called Tachyon: The Fringe had a unique ReadMe file. At the bottom of the ReadMe file is a few words of congratulations, and a set of coordinates for a fat stack of space cash for the late game.
Set in Stone
That even if you haven't read the terms and conditions you still agree to them. This is pretty common for websites where they are buried in the site, but by going to the homepage you've automatically agreed to them.
Reddit Says...
Reddit TOS:
WHILE REDDIT ATTEMPTS TO MAKE YOUR ACCESS TO AND USE OF OUR SERVICES SAFE, WE DO NOT REPRESENT OR WARRANT THAT OUR SERVICES OR SERVERS ARE FREE OF VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL COMPONENTS.
It's not weird in a way that it shouldn't be there, just unexpected.
Also not reddit afaik, but a lot of ToS tell they have the right to give certain of your information to companies and Google is ALWAYS there.
Oh and if anyone uses one of those Do Not Track signals, companies don't give a crap about that and say that in other words in their privacy policies.
Left Without Power
I'm taking a cyberlaw and ethics course and this has been a focal point of the class. Terms and conditions leave you basically Powerless and unable to hold companies liable. There were terms and conditions on a site that literally said by accepting the terms, you would give them your first born child. Granted I believe it was a joke or experiment to see how long they could leave it in there unnoticed.
Amazon still sucks.
Not me, but when my sister was applying for a warehouse job at Amazon, she spotted a section that stated that Amazon owned all the rights for all intellectual property and products created by the employee for an indefinite amount of time even after leaving the job. In another section, there was something saying that you couldn't say anything bad about the company online or in private, again, for an indefinite amount of time even after leaving the job. Amazon still sucks.
Want my blood too....
We were interested in purchasing a house, and sent the Contract of Sale to our conveyancer as a final 'rubber stamp' before signing.
They quickly got back to us, pointing out a clause buried in the Contract. It said that we agree to forfeiting our cooling off period and all 'subject to building/pest/structural inspection' rights, and that we agreed we must proceed with the purchase no matter what. Even if the house was rotted with termites, or the vendor had blatantly hid some structural fault, they could legally 'force' us to proceed with the purchase.
The conveyancer said that the vendor's legal firm had a reputation of putting these hidden nasties in their Contracts, so she knew to scrutinize every word as soon as she saw their name on it.
Needless to say, we didn't proceed with the purchase.
Good Education
A lot of chrome extensions give the developer access to your drive. This is an issue for many education extensions during remote learning. I successfully stopped my school from using one platform over another due to this issue as well.
You're Still a Feast
I read the waiver at an indoor paintball place one time. It covered everything you'd think it would cover, but that wasn't all. Insect bites and stings. Attacks from wild animals "such as bears, etc" (yes, it specified bears), and dangers such as guides incorrectly navigating rapids.
All of these things were covered.
For paintball.
Indoors.
The experience did not live up to what the waiver implied.
Is Thou Art?
In this app called PopJam in the TOS it says that the developers can freely use any art you post on the app. Kinda screwed me up for a while but I saw some user's art on the appstore banners (with the users in question credited) so it probably just means that they can "show it off" without per but still-
Someone once said that you're not really "old" until you stop playing - stop making the little choices for joy and fun in your daily life.
Making that choice for little bits of silly is something people are starting to proudly embrace.
Reddit user RepresentativeFast97 asked:
"To all the adults. What is one childish thing you still do to this day?"
Cheers to the childish ones, may you stay forever young ... and forever laughing at fart jokes.
Farts Are Funny
"I'm not sure if it's childish or just being a man, but I will never fail to laugh at a good fart joke."
-fanofclutch
"There was this one time, late at night before going to bed I was talking to my dad about some benign thing and for absolutely no reason he just let one rip."
"Opposite end of the room dead in the face while I'm talking, blasting and it straight up stun locked me."
"He wasn't even phased asked me 'What's wrong bud?' and I still laugh when thinking back on it."
-Verunum
The Darkness
"Run away from the darkness when I turn off lights"
-ilovedtransyIvania
"Run one all fours up the stairs while you're doing it to be faster"
-Z4mb0ni
"And jump on the bed when you turn the light switch off on the wall. That way, whatever is underneath can't grab your feet"
-User Deleted
Splash
"When it rains heavily for a few days, our backyard walkway floods."
"I like to put on my rubber boots, my raincoat, grab an umbrella and stomp away in the puddles. I'm 65."
-invalidpassword
"You are my inspiration. Im 18 and hope I will never grow up."
-Oliver_Queen_4587
X-Games in Aisle 3
"I still stand on the back of the shopping cart and kick-scoot it like a scooter up and down the aisles while grocery shopping. I’m nearly 50 years old."
-VictorBlimpmuscle
"Same here."
"I find Costco carts, while requiring more effort to get going, carry a lot of momentum."
"Aldi carts are notably in good shape due to getting returned so often."
"Giant Eagle carts are hit and miss, lots of wobble-wheels unfortunately."
-LeonardGhostal
That Food Was Bomb
"I still open the microwave before the bomb goes off."
-robbini3
"I never understood why I open the microwave at 1 sec left until now lol."
-BigWingWangKen
Blankie
"I had a comfort blanket as a kid, sometimes the lining of a coat pocket feels just like it so I walk around rubbing it like a comfort blanket."
-Targetmissed
"32 and I don’t go anywhere in the house or overnight without my super adult comfort blanket"
-dejapasstime
"My mom is 48 and still sleeps with a baby blanket her parents got her"
-Boneal171
Chocolate Milk
"I drink chocolate milk at restaurants."
"When asked if I seriously just ordered chocolate milk, I respond with 'you’re god damned right I did.'"
-DBM
"We had a buffet in our area that had chocolate milk."
"There were more adults than children who drank it."
-nauticalrangale
"Chocolate milk is delicious and that's the glorious thing about being adults. We can drink as much of it as we damn well please."
-Concerned-Pineapple
Puppy Love
"I'm a 53 year old man. I just went up to my dog laying on the couch and smooshed my face into her fur and said:"
" 'Shmoopy Smoopy Poopy? Are you a SHHHmoopy poo? Who made you so fluffy? Why you fluffy bum? YOU SO FLUFF BUM BUM SMOOGLY BOOGLY!' "
"...while my wife looked on an shook her head."
-ClownfishSoup
Rhyme And Reason
"36 here, and still sing the alphabet (when I need to, not just randomly) and sometimes say the rabbit rhyme when tying my shoes lol"
-Mike_TKE
"I relate with the alphabet singing, and similarly I sing a rhyme in my head to remember which months have 30 days and which have ones have 31 days."
-Laleena_
"I still do the "righty tighty, lefty loosey" thing when working with tools."
-Gladix
"Righty Tighty/Lefty Loosey is the best way!"
"I'm a medical professional on a HIGHLY specialized team working with very complicated equipment on a VERY sick child."
"Trouble shooting a difficult problem, I say out loud to a room of probably 7 specialists: 'Okay Guys, so righty tighty.... we're going to do A, B, and C thing to the right'. "
"No one questioned the righty tighty comment! Everyone gets it!"
-JustGenericName
Impulse Speed
"I indulge in my impulses."
"Wanna walk on that garden wall like it's a balance beam? Wanna take my shoes off? Want to sing loudly?"
"Restraint is something I learned for adulthood, then promptly discarded. It doesn't suit me."
-InimitableMe
"I too have ADHD"
-Iron_physik
Kids having all the fun is whack.
Reclaim childishness. It's good for you!
As for my confession - everything! Cartoons, coloring, dance breaks, little songs, toys and games, bubbles ... I'm not sure I ever outgrew any of those things.
I, too, have ADHD.
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The world is a beautiful place. From natural scenery like the Himalayan Mountains in Asia to the appearance of the Aurora Borealis at various times, awe-inspiring sights are never too hard to find.
Every country can boast a few different areas of jaw-dropping beauty. Some offer more gorgeous scenery than others. It makes us wonder, what makes one country more beautiful than another?
Is it the variety and sheer number of beautiful sights or is it the magnificence of one area? And what is the prettiest country in the world?
Curious to find out, Redditor Dream4Cats asked:
"In your opinion, whats the prettiest country?"
Switzerland
"Since I moved to Switzerland, I've always found the amount of beauty in this country to be borderline upsetting"
– Hour_Prune_225
"Prettiest country I've ever seen is Switzerland. Taking a train through that country is like traveling through a bunch of postcards that have been stitched together. It's f*cking beautiful."
– The_Mikest
Norway
"I was in norway 3 years ago. It was just... Beautiful. Definitly it is my fav. Country with france (corisca)"
– Dream4Cats
"I was playing Geoguessr with a group and this guy from Norway was very much not impressed by a beautiful landscape we found somewhere, because it just looked normal to him. Like what? Do you even see these trees and this lake and the mountains in the distance? Does it mean nothing to you xD"
– Roozyj
"Norway is so beautiful you can't take it..."
– EnvironmentOk5183
Japan
"Japan in springtime"
– PhantomFartz76
"Japan in the fall is equally as stunning. The changing of the leaves is picturesque anywhere you go here."
– thespicyroot
"Japan, cherry blossoms"
– plscallmeRain
The United States (Talk About Diversity)
"If you're talking about any whole country, I would have to say the United States. Every conceivable type of landscape is here. Grasslands, mountain ranges, canyons, deserts, huge cityscapes, Arctic, massive forests, lakes and so much more."
– DARKxASSASSIN29
"USA- the diversity of natural beauty is hard to match anywhere else."
"Yes there are more spectacular wetlands, beaches, snowy peaks, deserts, ancient forests, rivers and natural springs - but there are not many countries which have all of these"
– GoodAndBluts
"The United States. Name a biome or a natural feature and we have it, plus things no where else has."
– twitch_delta_blues
Greece
"All of the Mediterranean countries from all 3 continents ( Asia, Europe and Africa) so diverse and rich, so many different cultures and languages in such a small area. Croatia, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Malta, France"
– User Deleted
"I completely agree. I went on a cruise that visited Greece and Italy. It was absolutely gorgeous. Favorite places I’ve ever been."
– bustylusciouslady
"love all those greek islands with the beautiful sea around!"
– Flunderpudding
Italy
"I would say Italy (if we're talking about European countries that I've been too). The villages, landscape, the Tirol, the coastlines, historical ruins... every type of gorgeous (not to mention the people, food and even dare I say it, clothes)."
– TIL_eulenspiegel
"Italy is the most beautiful country by far. It combines alps and mediterranean and it contains multiple layers of historical civilizations."
– Redararis
"Italy—so much ecological diversity"
– pconti279
Scotland
"I have only been to Scotland once but it was really beautiful and I enjoyed it. Love the green, the lochs and all the layers of clouds in the Highlands."
– soline
"The fact I went to a city in Scotland and there was just casually a mountain/possibly just huge hill basically right next to it blew my gd mind."
– EllieC130
"To me it’s got to be Scotland. I went to Edinburgh for vacation once and the natures that surrounds you is so amazing. The small towns were quite and nice and the main city was so beautiful when it rained."
– Koolaidbutasolid
New Zealand
"New Zealand"
– 14kee
"This is the only correct answer"
– Azonic
"New Zealand. Maybe this is just me coming from Australia where most of our native flora is dry, but NZ is the complete opposite. So luscious and green in many areas."
– ThrowRARAw
"We spent a couple of weeks driving around New Zealand’s South Island. It was absolutely stunning."
– mateoRH
Ireland
"Ireland, by far. So green. As someone who loves just driving around in a car with the family, some of the scenery is truly beautiful. You don't even need to go to those hot tourist spots like Giant's Causeway."
– Northiree
"Northern Ireland. Go outside Belfast and you have Giant's Causeway, beaches, Mourne mountains, beautiful green fields, some amazing forestry."
– User Deleted
"Ireland is fantastic. My borther in law lives in county cork and we visited him a few years ago. Rented a car in dublin airport and first off saw the highest waterfall in ireland on the way to cc. Then next day saw the cliffs on the south coast and kinsale. Such a great place to visit! We hope to visit end of the year again."
– Adayuus
Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder
"Every country has a beauty of its own in some way shape or form. I don’t think there is one that is better than another."
– Ranos131
"This is a tough one. Every country has beautiful places."
– SwordfishNo4689
"Every country has beauty to it, you just have to know where to look"
– signaturefox2013
Obviously, the responses to this question were plentiful and diverse. However, all of the answers were valid.
In the end, it doesn't really matter what the prettiest country is. We can all be happy knowing that there is seemingly endless beauty in this world.
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There are just some people who always trigger the spidey senses.
The problem is that we don't trust our instincts enough.
How many people have just left you feeling... ill at ease?
Probably more than we care to admit.
We don't want to be wrong about someone.
That is the main problem. Then we'd be embarrassed.
That feeling changes to relief when we see them on the news or a Dateline NBC episode.
Redditor Lucky_Solution7999 wanted to hear about the people who inexplicably rubbed us the wrong way. They asked:
"Hey reddit, what is one time you knew something was off about someone but couldn't prove it?"
When I was doing online "love" browsing a bunch, I was always good about being in tune to my icky feelings.
the guitarist...
"My buddy and the guitarist in my band started dating this girl we were on the same forum with. I raised concerns based on some red flags she posted, but everybody in my band said I was overreacting."
"Cut to about a year later. The girlfriend cheats on him and gets pregnant. When my friend goes to confront her about it, she has the baby’s daddy and five of his friends jump him and beat him into hospitalization. Hate to say I told you so, but…"
gothdaddi
A Guy
"I hired a guy a long time ago and worked with him for years. Very talented and smart, plus a nice guy. At some point, he started making super strange decisions. Kinda impulsive, very odd stuff (asking if he can invite his girlfriend to a staff meeting, for instance). A lot of crap that didn’t make any sense. He got hired to a better job and I lost touch."
"A few months later, he died of a large number of brain tumors. The timeline his girlfriend-turned-wife offered matched up with what we’d been noticing for years. I look back in the arguments and realize there’s no way I could have known. At the same time, that’s kinda the point: you really can’t know what’s going on with someone, so act accordingly."
patricksaurus
psycho
"My parents had a close friend when I was pretty young, maybe between 8 and 10 years old? He came over a lot, to drink or shoot guns with my dad, but I didn’t like him one bit. He just gave me a bad feeling. I remember sticking my tongue out at him every time his back was to me. Never said anything to my parents though, I just stayed away when he was over."
"My mom ended up hiring him to work at the pawn shop she ran, and after he started things went missing. I don’t remember how they figured out he was stealing but he had a gallon ziplock FILLED with jewelry. The cops tried to convince the owner not to press charges (since he got the jewelry back) but the owner went through with it."
"As soon as they booked him, his finger prints came back from an unsolved double homicide- he had brutally murdered an elderly couple when they came home mid-robbery. After he killed him, he drank their milk, leaving his prints on the jug on the counter."
AlwxWrites
“too comfortable”
"My mom used to have this friend years ago when we lived in a pretty nice looking house, and she would often show up uninvited and act 'too comfortable' in our house. my mom would always just say that it’s probably just because that lady comes from a different culture but i was suspicious of the lady stealing some stuff from our house. one day the lady invites my mom to the beach."
"My mom has a huge fear of water and can’t swim at all so she avoids it, but she tends to be overly polite, so she decides to go. at the beach, the lady pressures my mom to go swim assuring her that they’ll stay close to the shore and what not. the lady ended up shoving my mom in and standing back to watch as my mom had a difficult time keeping herself up and trying to swim back to shore."
4bunny44
2 Days...
"My best friend at the time worked with a guy who I had met a few times as I'd join them for afterwork drinks, clubbing, etc. I always felt uncomfortable being around him but didn't know why. He was nice enough and quite funny but something just seemed... off. Anyway, we were out one night and he seemed extra off and ended up disappearing from the club. We found out 2 days later that he had gone home, killed his gf, dismembered her body and put her in the bin out the front of his house."
lilpinaylander
What in the world? Talk about nightmares.
The Former
"A former friend's husband. He always tried just that bit too hard to fit into the group and be involved in everything. Always had to be the smartest guy in the room. I don’t know what it was but I disliked him from the moment we met and there’s not that many people I dislike."
"Long story short, he turned out to be a controlling, emotionally abusive sack of crap who hated me because I kept encouraging my friend to be independent and my husband and I encourage each other to have a life outside of each other."
Yanigan
“too comfortable”
"My mom used to have this friend years ago when we lived in a pretty nice looking house, and she would often show up uninvited and act 'too comfortable' in our house. My mom would always just say that it’s probably just because that lady comes from a different culture but I was suspicious of the lady stealing some stuff from our house. One day the lady invites my mom to the beach, my mom has a huge fear of water and can’t swim at all so she avoids it."
"But she tends to be overly polite, so she decides to go. at the beach, the lady pressures my mom to go swim assuring her that they’ll stay close to the shore and what not. the lady ended up shoving my mom in and standing back to watch as my mom had a diffcult time keeping herself up and trying to swim back to shore."
4bunny44
he's weird...
"I was friends with this kid for awhile and he was always weird. he always made some sort of sexual joke or comment about you or something he wanted to do to you, although the comments were weird everyone brushed them off as if they were a joke."
"Me and him were really close at one point and decided that we would get drunk, at first I felt uneasy as i do not drink and i wasn’t really comfortable with the idea of being around him and getting drunk as i know his personality. eventually he persuaded me to drink with him and after a few shots we were pretty drunk."
"After that we headed over to his place and had to act completely sober in front of his parents. After awhile it had been quite awhile since we had drank i was starting to feel/act more sober than a few hours before and from my point of view, he did too."
"After awhile he was starting to act his usual self and make the sexual comments but out of nowhere he started acting upon it too. The friendship had ended shortly after that experience."
BitLimp5448
This is a lot. This is why I avoid people. People are crazy.
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When you have no money, you have no other choice than finding ways to survive.
It can be sort of like a club.
Only people who understand being poor will recognize other poor people.
There are things you learn about stretching every penny that some will never be able to comprehend.
Of course right now in the throws of this ridiculous inflation problem, pennies are useless.
But that is a different conversation.
Let's make some notes about lacking funds.
Redditor cannonstotheleftofus wanted to hear from people who have struggled with the coin. They asked:
"What’s something people don’t know unless they’ve been poor?"
Rewashing clothes and reusing the same clothes for months. You ignore the fade.
Noodle Away
"How to make $20 last a week."
whattayagonnadew
"The magic word is Ramen."
cannonstotheleftofus
“pay us now”
"You have a couple of months from when you get those 'pay us now' letters until they actually care enough to get bailiffs involved."
Nitrosquid212
"I am currently in that stage and boy if that doesn't just make the next payment even worse. It's and endless cycle of higher and higher catch-up payments till you die or someone finally helps you."
AnnBelleBot
Reading is Fundamental
"Poor people know the importance of a good library. They are one of the few remaining public places where you can simply exist without the expectation of buying something. Books are free to check out and provided entertainment when my family couldn't afford internet/cable. The library in my town is a safe, well-lit, air conditioned/heated space that has clean water, free access to bathrooms, and free wifi."
"Not everyone has all those resources at home. Some people have no home at all. It's a valuable resource for homeless people and it's a safe space for poor kids to do homework or hang around while parents are busy working. Nowadays libraries even offer free passes to museums and zoos, free adult education classes, and have tools or sewing machines you can borrow. Libraries are great."
aimlessly_scrolling
Transportation
"That everything takes twice as long to do because you have to take public transportation, and have to go to the laundromat; many things are a huge hassle like limiting how many things you can get at the store because you have to lug it all on the bus; basically things that many take for granted require a load of planning and time."
EspressoBooksCats
Good Night
"Sleeping not because you're tired but because you're hungry and can't grab a bite because whatever might be left in the fridge gotta last till the 15th."
VtecKickedInYooo
Food is always the biggest issue. Making food last is a skill.
Budgets
"How expensive being poor can be. When you're living paycheck-to-paycheck, you can't often plan/save/budget as well as you could if you had some money to fall back on."
NoCelery1168
The taste...
"How a black bean and rice burrito tastes when it's all you've been able to afford for the better part of the past year. No cheese, just beans and rice and tortilla, sometimes with Lowry's Seasoned Salt or peanut butter when available. Cheese is the most expensive part of a burrito."
CedarWolf
Cheap parts...
"Being poor is expensive. You’re forced to buy low quality s**t that needs to be replaced constantly, which in the long run causes you to spend more money. This is why poverty is so hard to escape. For example, when I was poor as s**t, I was forced to learn how to fix my own old a** car and buy cheap parts, because I just couldn’t afford to take it in, buy quality parts, and/or get something more reliable."
"Because of this, sometimes I didn’t know what I was doing and created other issues therefore causing me to spend more money. Cheap parts need to replaced way more often causing me to spend more money in the long run as opposed to buying a quality, long lasting part initially. And the car itself just broke down way more frequently, causing me to spend money more than I would with a more reliable vehicle."
"But the problem is when you’re poor, you don’t have the option to buy that quality starter that will last years. You have to buy the cheap piece of s**t one and replace it yearly because you literally don’t have the money for the quality one as a one time expense. Although I do love working on cars now as a result of this, so in a weird way I’m grateful, but the point still stands."
Mirraco323
Pain in the A...
"Medicaid is a pain in the a** to understand and sign up for. It's like the state actively fights you trying to sign up."
MrPuzzleMan
"I remember the one time I was briefly on Medicaid. It was such a pain in the a** to get going and the end result was that there was no point in having bothered because nobody took Medicaid and Medicaid didn't cover any of my diabetic supplies. The healthcare system needs a major overhaul and anybody who says otherwise can go suck a lemon."
BeneejSpoor
reuse...
"You can infuse your tea more than once. It goes well with two times and it's acceptable with three. More than that... You can't afford tea."
25_-a
"My grandma wasn't poor by a long shot, but she made those teabags last at least 5 times!!! They would be standing in the kitchen, all dried up on a little plate, ready to be reused!"
Th3_Accountant
How do you use tea that many times? I love it anyway.
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