Generation gaps can create some glaring differences especially when dealing with the equality of all humans. The old ways of treating people of color are no longer accepted by the majority of people, however some people in older generations still do not make it a priority to make all people feel welcome and valued.
This situation could not be more real for Redditor u/statuethrow who says My [28M] relationship with Mom [60F] and Step-Dad [~60M] is straining because of a controversial lawn ornament.
Here's how it played out:
My mom and stepdad last year moved into a new house that came with a lawn ornament depicting a cartoonishly caricatured black boy dressed in a jockey uniform. I did some research, and it turns out that it was a Jocko style Lawn Jockey. Apparently these were popular back in the day with people that wanted to evoke that old Southern style of welcome that includes casual racial prejudice. The more I learned about these things, the more uncomfortable it made me. It can't just sit there in the yard. They would have to store it, paint it, get rid of it...something. Anything less I feel would be an endorsement of what this statue represents. We are all white, and I don't want to get into a situation where I bring friends over, they see it and get the wrong impression about my folks. I told my mom my feelings about it, and she indicated that her and my stepdad were aware and were talking about what to do about it.
The next time I visited them, they moved it off to the side yard, and this time it was in the same spot and they had put a garbage bag over it. I mean, it's good that they covered it, but I don't understand why they still have it, and it's been a year. I don't think either one of them are racist or anything, I just see the history of this object and it's relationship to racism and it disgusts me. Neither one of them seem to share my disgust, which is frustrating. My gut tells me that I'm in the right, but at the same time this is driving a wedge between me and my step-dad, and my mom feels caught in the middle between us.
Mom and I just had a tearful conversation about this. She's worried that I'm judging them negatively for this, which definitely isn't the case for her. (My feelings about him are up in the air right now.) She seems to agree that this thing is more trouble than it's worth. I offered to take the statue and dispose of it, but she said no and that it was up to my step dad. He seems to have taken an opposing stance on this and doesn't see much reason to get rid of it. Apparently he did his own online research and concluded that it wasn't a racist object, and that I'm wrong and I need to let this go. He says the statue has historical value and he shouldn't be made to feel like a racist for displaying it. I'm aware of the content he's basing his claims on, and will try to show him how they lack a basis in fact. Mom has told me though that he did agree to get rid of it, but I don't know how much I believe him.
I'm now at the point where I don't know if I'm making too much of a big deal about this. My folks and I are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but that hasn't really been an issue until now. My next step I just want to be able to visit my folks and not have to worry about this s***. Am I right for pushing them towards action on this, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
tldr: parents inherited a statue of a caricatured black youth. I detest it and want it gone, stepdad thinks it's fine. How to proceed?
Update: Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Just to clear up a few things, I don't think I could persuade them by saying that the neighbors are judging them, they live in a very red area, there was a guy who wore a MAGA hat on the beach with his family the other day and no one seemed to care.
Also, I should have been more specific regarding what I meant regarding the tearful conversation with my mom. I had meant that we both were crying. There wasn't manipulation there. She was genuinely worried that I was thinking about cutting her out of my life, and I was upset about this whole thing. I'm generally averse to conflict and it takes a lot for me to make a stand about something, especially when it leads to this kind of friction.
I feel empowered by your words, and I know that I can't just let this go. I'll be as respectful as I can, but my feelings about the statue haven't changed and I'm not going to really feel comfortable there until they do something about it.
What are your thoughts?
Play dirty in the name of justice and equality
GiphyI wrote out a lot of analysis, but then decided it was pretentious and deleted it.
- It's not your property, so ultimately, legally, you can't do anything.
- You've made your case. They doubled down. Logic wouldn't appear to work.
My advice to you would be that for every gift-giving occasion, be it birthdays, anniversaries, Christmas, Labor Day, whatever... I would send them a card, and include the receipt for the donation you made in their name to the NAACP, the United Negro College Fund, or the local black historical/heritage society... you know, since history is so important to him.
You're not going to wear them down, so go with the semi-regular notification that he's being an ahole, and maybe the thank you letters from the assorted charities will eventually make him feel like enough of a doofus to take an appropriate action on his own.
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You can't teach an old dog not to be an a**
GiphyYeah, he's a big ole racist. No way he actually googled "lawn jockey"and came away with the idea that its not racist.
Create some distance
GiphyOP, I'm with you on this one. The statue is horribly racist, and cringe-worthy. I'd go as far as to not visit your mom & step-dad at their home, and only see them away from the house.
It's a two way street
GiphyLol @ the pearl clutching over your mom crying about feeling "judged" for participating in racist s***. Honestly, f*** manipulative tears. You get to decide what's more important to you: your relationship with your mother or your principles regarding race. I know what choice I would make. And remember that torching a relationship goes both ways. So your parents also have a choice: their f******* son or their beloved racist lawn ornament.
Ask the right questions
GiphyAsk them how the statue makes their lives better. Seriously.
Ask them why they feel the need to keep it, even though it causes friction between you guys. To prove how not-racist they are?
It's not like they're rare. There's no historical significance to speak off. They're ugly as shit. Seriously, there's no reason to keep it, except to "stick it to them libruls".
The extreme route...
GiphyIt's racist. Them keeping the statue is racist. The lovely thing about racism is it's a great place to take a stance. I would cut back contact with your family significantly and steal and destroy that awful statue.
Stay away from those people
GiphyIt is IMPOSSIBLE to google "lawn jockey", and not immeidately understand that this is racist. He knows it's racist, but he doesn't care. Your solution is not to take friends around there. You have spoken your peace. Do not argue, justify, or explain your position, because that is as preposterous as trying to explain why you don't walk down the street and randomly punch strangers in the head. It doesn't even bear trying to have a rational discussion about it.
Simply state your position. "Hey mom, I find that statue to be racist. I feel like if you google lawn jockey, and do your own unbiased reading, it is impossible to come away with any other conclusion. Therefore, I will not be visiting your home while you choose to have such casual disregard for a racist statue." That's it. And yeah, I'm sorry to tell you but it sounds like your parents are racist if they feel that displaying that lawn jockey is that important to them.
Let them lay in the beds they made
GiphyYou know what OP, your parents were being ignorant-and there is NOTHING wrong about being ignorant to a subject, we don't know everyone's deal, HOWEVER, you took the time to research this object and educated them, this crosses the line into WILLFUL ignorance, and quite frankly, point blank racism.
I would not visit them until its removed, they know what theyre doing-its not like it pays them rent or adds deep value to their lives, and someone WILL call them out on it, don't be around when it happens.
Stand up to the root of the problem
GiphyIt sounds like your mum is just fretting because she's trying to please you both but she's not really thinking about this or taking responsibility for herself. My mum did this with her ex and me, she'd get all tearful and do that mum thing of 'I just try to please everyone' etc. Could you sit down and ask your mum what she really thinks hand on heart. It concerns me that the stepdad sounds like a jerk and your mum isn't standing up to him, either that or your mum is racist too. It could help you to figure out which one it is.
Judge the f*** out of them until they learn their lesson
GiphyHow to deal with casual racists: "Don't make me feel bad, it feels like I'm being judged!" "It should. Because I'm judging you."
Talk about the money
GiphyLol have u read Stephen kings duma key be glad it isn't chasing u they should sell it it actually does have value but gives the wrong impression for sure I'd push ur step dad that way he'd probably be more likely to get rid of it if there was money in it
Get rid of it yourself
GiphyAm I the only one who would throw caution out the window and smash the s*** out of that stupid, racist piece of garbage?? (The lawn ornament, but maybe the stepparent, too. Up to interpretation. )
Hoarding may be the issue here
GiphyDoes your stepdad have hoarding tendencies?? Like, is he scared to get rid of it because he thinks it is worth something?? Look it up on eBay, and see if ANY of them have sold, and what they sold for. Offer to sell it for him??? If it's what I think it is, it's cringe inducing, and I wouldn't want to be associated with the house that displays it.
A different point of view
GiphyWell, it's not your house, so while you don't like it, it's really none of your business. You are forcing an issue between your mother and your step-father about something at THEIR house.
That said, I think you are also wrong about what you think of the statue, based on a few minutes of my own research:
"The jockey, in a similarly secret way, pointed to safe houses along the Underground Railroad.
"These statues were used as markers on the Underground Railroad throughout the South into Canada," says historian/author Charles Blockson, curator of the Afro-American Collection at Temple University in Philadelphia. "Green ribbons were tied to the arms of the statue to indicate safety; red ribbons meant to keep going.
"People who don't know the history of the jockey have feelings of humiliation and anger when they see the statue," he adds. "But this figure, which was sometimes used in a clandestine nature, and sometimes without the knowledge of the person who owned the statue, was a positive and supportive image to African-Americans on the road to freedom.""
From a 1998 article in the Chicago Tribune.
I'm not researching it any more to have any more of an opinion. Not your house.
The important question
GiphyYou are right for feeling as you do about the lawn ornaments. But I would ask, is it worth straining your relationship with your mother over? I get the impression that your step-dad is taking an opposing stance not because he actually likes or cares about the statue but because you have taking such a vocal position, it's almost like he's doing it for spite. Also, he might feel that you are accusing him of being racists and he's being defensive and doubling down. I bet if you never mentioned the statue to him again it would eventually disappear. Also you mentioned that your Mom said he agreed to get rid of, give him the chance to do the right thing.
People Break Down Which Things Are Illegal In Europe But Not In The U.S.
Whenever a person is getting ready to travel, one piece of advice they should always listen to is to read up on the local laws of the place they're visiting.
Because there are activities that might be acceptable back home that will land a person in jail in another country.
Curious, Redditor Judgmental_Squirrel asked:
"What is something illegal in Europe but not in the US?"
Baby Names
"In Denmark, we can't just name our babies anything we want. We have an approved names list to pick from. We can request a name that is not on the list but it rarely gets approved."
- Healthy_Highlight_71
No Medicine Commercials in Europe
"Pharmaceutical companies marketing directly to consumers."
- ConstantlySlippery
Aesthetic Dog Changes
"Docking dog's tails and cropping their ears."
- Penguinair
Also Cat Aesthetics
"Declawing cats. Most countries here do not allow that."
- DreamingDragonSoul
Crate-Training Animals
"In Germany and in other European countries, it's illegal to lock dogs in cages or crates for extended periods of time. As in daily while you are at work, for example. It's considered animal abuse."
"So many people in the US do this and I've always thought it was abusive. It amazes me how they justify it as, 'Oh, my dog loves the secure feeling of being in his crate' when it's only done for the owner's convenience."
- KookyPiccolo1661
Enough Said.
"Flamethrowers."
- squirrelrap69
Predatory Pricing
"Selling something below the price you bought it for (with the intention to sabotage other businesses). For example, Walmart tried to do this in Germany to destroy their rivals, but they failed miserably and completely retreated out of Germany."
- Lord_Gelthon
Washing Eggs Pre-Sale
"I'm in the US, and a former workmate has chickens as a hobby and gives away the eggs, unwashed. They are in the carton and obviously straight from the nest, because there are all sorts of particles of an output nature on the eggs."
"In Europe, eggs at the stores have sometimes a bit of poop or even feathers on them. Either rinse them before or just wash your hands after. But usually, they're quite clean."
- rncookiemaker
Not Okay in Europe
"Well, Colorado just made it legal to grow psychedelic mushrooms in your own home."
- ITRabbitHole
Additives in Food and Drinks
"Brominated vegetable oil."
- Marijn_fly
Satire Not Allowed
"In the UK at least, showing footage from parliament in a comedy show. More specifically, 'No extracts from parliamentary proceedings may be used in comedy shows or other light entertainment such as political satire.'"
"I only learned that when I tried to watch an episode of 'The Daily Show' that was blocked in the UK for that reason.US comedy shows can show congress all they want."
- Moctor_Drignall
No Sick Days
"This is the main reason I quit my job at Walmart. I had strep throat, so I got a doctor's note and asked that my absences be excused. The managers there refused, and so I quit."
"By the way, Walmart counts your absences as points against you. For example, if you're absent and call in to let them know, you still get a point. Get five points and you're fired. Really makes you feel like a worker drone in a dystopian novel."
- stellaluna-37
The Impact of Additives
"The US has a use it until it's proven harmful policy, and the EU the other way around. Prove it doesn't harm (in given and reasonable quantities) and you can use it."
"Fun fact, some friendly Americans after moving to Europe started realizing they did not suffer from suspected lactose/gluten/you name it intolerance but simply had their guts harmed by additives and seen their symptoms improve here. Check your additives, kids."
- ArtichokeFamiliar205
Candy Distribution
"Various ingredients found in lollies/sweets/candy e.g titanium dioxide. There are tighter restrictions on food production in Europe resulting in American companies having to alter their recipes so they can be sold in European countries."
"A lot of US-based companies partner with foreign companies to meet these laws (so the healthier versions rarely reach US soil). In French Polynesia for example, Coca-Cola partners with La Brasserie de Tahiti, and all of it is made with real sugar and sold in glass bottles that you return to any store for a discount on your next purchase."
"I can't remember for sure if the glass bottles are a law or just the standard for La Brasserie de Tahiti. Either way, it's a great example of how easy it is to cut our reliance on plastic. The public will adopt it quickly, it's really just corporate greed getting in the way."
- A0ma
Sale Sale Sale
"Artificially jacking up prices of things only to then put them 'on sale' when the sale price is really just the always-intended price."
- peachpinkjedi
While the word "illegal" may make most people think of illegal activities that a citizen might perform, most of the illegal acts here were in regards to public safety, as well as allowing the general public to live a healthier life.
The moment we find out there's no Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny is when we are forced to become adults.
We lose our childlike sense of wonder, setting many of us up for perpetual skepticism.
But since believing in these mythic heroes is commonly embraced by kids all over the world, it does provides a sense of relief that we all fell victim to the same ruse that brought so many of us plenty of joy.
However, there are specific situations where being gullible was embarrassing because no one else was as impressionable as you were. Sound familiar?
Curious to hear about our childhood, Redditor Keke_Dudu asked:
"What's the dumbest thing you believed as a kid?"
Redditors thought they were going to be violently pursued.
Potty Monster
"I would be in a perpetual state of fear on the toilet because I thought an alligator would bite my backside."
– aeiou-i-love-you
Flotsam & Jetsam
"I had a recurring nightmare that the eels from Little Mermaid were gonna come up the toilet and go for my butt."
– Greylings
Having active imaginations is nothing surprising...up until a certain age.
Sheep Exist For Real
"I thought sheep weren’t real when I was quite little. I thought they were mythical creatures like unicorns and dragons."
"My parents eventually figured this out and took me to a farm to see some real sheep, and my preschool brain was just like oh my god??? Are you fricking kidding me??? Sheep??? and was apparently just absolutely aghast at the sight of sheep."
– MatthewBrokenlamp
Fake News
"Not me, but my dad believed spaghetti grew on trees till middle school. All because he saw it on a TV commercial."
– KailerJ3304
Live And Work At One Place
"I thought ppl lived at their jobs. so mcdonald’s workers lived at mcdonald’s, teachers lived at school, etc. and that my parents just happened to be the exceptional weird discipline tactics."
– highuptop
Parents have wild disciplinary tactics.
Solo Snooze
"My parents had me convinced that if i don't learn to sleep alone when i was 8, I'd never be able to do it and I'll have to sleep with them even after I'm an adult. Idk why that scared me at that time but their little trick worked. Having a little brother is nice."
– kshay-
No More Loose Boogers
"My parents told me that they don’t let people who don’t know how to blow their nose into Disneyworld. We had a trip coming up so I learned fast. I truly thought that they had someone at the gate handing everyone a tissue to make sure they could blow their nose to be allowed in."
– OrangeTree81
Princesses Know How To Pee
"My daughter learned how to use the toilet real quick because I said only potty-trained kids could go to Cinderella's House. She didn't know we already had the trip to Disney booked, and I did not have a plan for if it backfired." - Reddit
What if these were true?
Conditional Teleporter
"A friend said he could teleport, just not when they were at school."
– Kerrminater
Delivering Bad News
"There was only one mailman. Idk wtf I was on but I remember telling my grandma 'look the mailman got on this side of town fast' she was like I know you don't think that's the same mailman. I said yea so she took me to the post office downtown and I saw all the mail trucks and was like oooooooooooo well I'm dumb."
– XxXWatchItAllBurnxXx
As a kid, I often psyched myself up and always thought of the worst case scenario.
My fears got the best of me when I went to camp as an eight-year-old.
The camp counselors would tell us about the "Unjai monster" or bigfoot snatching away the kids who didn't fall asleep when it was time for lights out.
I had the top of the bunk bed...right next to a window. I couldn't sleep that whole night because I was too afraid the Unjai monster would sense my restlessness and grab me through the window and take me deep into the woods and feed me to its family.
It was the worst.
I still can't tell if my bedsheets were soaked with night sweats or pee.
At the end of a long day, there is nothing better than unwinding to a TV show.
Escaping from your stressful reality for an hour or so, to catch up on a longtime favorite, or tune in to the premiere of a new show everyone's been talking about.
That is, until your relaxation abruptly stops, when something happens on the show that makes you want to scream uncontrollably at your screen.
Be it a decision a character made, a plot point that came out of nowhere, or realizing the episode you are watching literally makes no sense (most recent season of Riverdale anyone?), there is little more infuriating that witnessing a show ruin itself in one swift blow.
"What ruins a TV series for you?"
The Things Some People Get Away With
"Characters that do not make realistic decisions, and when there are no real consequences for characters who make bad decisions."- Sonarks
They're Not Quite Dead...
"When people keep dying and then coming back to life."- SuvenPan
They Could Do So Much Better
"Character A exhibits absolutely reprehensible behavior towards Character B, and then they both end up apologizing to each other even though Character A was the only one who did anything wrong?"- dreadnaut1897
Homer Simpson Reaction GIFGiphyYou'd Think They'd Have Learned By Now...
"Characters that don’t grow or learn anything from their experiences."- Embarrassed_Tax_6547
Not As Cute As People Think
"The 'super smart kid that talks like an adult' thing that so many horrible sitcoms do."- NastyLittleBagginses
There Can Definitely Be Too Much Of A Good Thing
"Two things."
"If they 'jump the shark' and the plot lines just get so f*cking ridiculous that, even for fiction you cannot suspend disbelief."
"When they just milk the f*ck out of it and run it into the ground with prequels, sequels, and off shoots."
"It's not the idea of making more series to build a 'universe', it's that most of the shows tend to suffer because the creative staff is being pulled in so many directions."
"Looking at you, 'Sons of Anarchy'/'Kurt Sutter' and 'Yellowstone'/'Taylor Sheridan'."- RunsWithPremise
sons of anarchy GIFGiphyThey Had So Many More Stories To Tell
"Premature cancellation."- poizn_ivy
"Netflix canceling it out of nowhere usually."- Howdydobe
We Can Only Suspend Our Disbelief So Much...
"When the story gets too outrageous."
"Like I watched a show about LAPD cops and they ended up going to Mexico to take down a drug lord."
"I’m like whaaaa? Why would the LAPD do that?"
"Lol."- Diesel-KC
What The Hell Snl GIF by Saturday Night LiveGiphy90% Of Writers Are Out Of Work At Any Given Time... And Yet...
"Bad writing, serialitis (where characters don't get to have arcs but become types of themselves because the cancellation/renewal cycle prevents writing a story with a beginning middle and end)."- Rememberwork
Give People Some Credit
"In Sci Fi shows where they are going to do something big and one guy has to explain it to the rest of the crew/group as if they're wall lickingly stupid."- The_Last_Ron1n
The Course Of True Love Never Did Run Smooth...
"Forced romances and drama from those romances."- JackOfScales
GIF by GoPlayGiphyLooking At You Jim And Pam...
“'Will they/won’t they?'”
"Garbage."
"Cut the bullsh*t and ask them out."- SaltySteveD87
We Know What You're Really Thinking
"When a guy reveals a pretty cool trait or secret and the girl says 'our whole relationship is based on a lie'."
"How about for once the girl says 'omg that's hot'."- Waste_Willingness461
Grow Up Already!
"Drama based solely on miscommunication, or characters that are overly jealous but it's painted as endearing."
"The writers think it's more entertaining to have their main cast act like a bunch of 1st graders when all the characters are in their 20s and 30s, but it's just annoying."- brightnessys
how i met your mother cheers GIF by WGN AmericaGiphyGenerally speaking, we like to indulge in TV shows that feature a reality far different from our own.
But there is a fine, fine line between Fantasy and stupidity.
...Seriously, can ANYONE explain the most recent season of Riverdale? We're begging.
Jane Austen famously taught readers not to judge others based on first impressions in her classic novel Pride and Prejudice.
As someone who may instantly turn you off when first meeting them could prove to be the love of your life.
That doesn't mean, however, that first impressions are always inaccurate.
Sometimes, we'll meet people who don't seem like the sort of person we would normally think we're going to be friends with but are willing to give them a second or third chance.
Only to discover that our suspicions were accurate, unfortunately.
Then, there are the times when it is loud and clear after one conversation that friendships with certain individuals are never going to pan out.
"Have you ever listened to a person talk for less than a minute and known you weren't going to get along with that person? What did they say?"
Merging Friend Groups Can Be Dangerous
"Yes this guy hopped into our discord group a few months back."
"He was a friend of a friend, but he didn't think to just add him to our server not our group chat."
"We all hop into a call and first thing he does is make some remarks that are very politically sensitive, sends some graphic photos and made some inappropriate remarks."
"Didn't expect to meet someone and have him offend 6 people in the span of 10 minutes."- tremors51000·
Offense Taken!
"Told me 'Yeah all women are b*tches, you included."
"No offense."
"Within the first 2 minutes of knowing me."- PotentialCranberry40
Lechery At It's Worst
"Years ago, me and my ex-husband went to see a movie with an older colleague of his."
"Before the movie we had dinner at like a chain restaurant/steakhouse type place, staff on the floor was all 20ish."
"I never met this man before but in the first few minutes of sitting down and looking at the menu he very confidently told us how he came there a lot and flirted with the female staff because 'they love the attention'."
"The best part?"
"His daughter worked there."
"All I could think was how I would literally cringe myself through the floor if I was 20 and my 50yo dad came into my place of work and perved on my co-workers because he didn't understand that they only put up with him 'cause they are paid to do so."- singingsilence
Alicia Silverstone Cherilyn Horowitz GIF by filmeditorGiphyJob Interviews Are A Two Way Street
"I was in a job interview once and the manager cut me off mid-sentence to jump to a weird conclusion.
"Him: 'What do you think the performance of this algorithm would be?'"
"Me: 'Oh, it'll be 'n' times--'"
"Him: 'Oh, you think it's going to be 'n'? You think it'll be 'n'??!! That's ridiculous, there's no way it would just be 'n'!'"
"Me: Uhhhh, you gotta let me finish speaking'."
"He then cut me off mid sentence twice more during our conversation."
"We... didn't get along."
"Dude was a total tool."- ArrenEnladCG
Meanwhile, They Could Tell They Wouldn't Be Friends
"'There are different levels to being a psychic, I'm on the purple level so I can talk to the dead'."
"Said a new employee at my previous job."
"Nope."- Lumisateessa
Duplicity Isn't A Good Look On Anyone
"They talk negatively about someone else in a very judgy way."
"There was this mom in my daughter's school who seemed to 'know" everyone, she talked to me and she spoke so bad about these people'."
"Then moments later I saw her interacting in a 'friendly' way, with those she was judging."
"My eyes rolled so much I could see my brain telling me not to get involved with her."
"And I was right, because by the time school year ends, her 'friends' hated her and they were talking behind her back too."- eveningsand14-1311
Go Away Goodbye GIFGiphyBarely Attempting To Hide Their Bigotry...
"'I know I'm not supposed to ask, but I need to know'."
"It's not for work or anything-- what religion are you?'"
"HR manager."- l0R3-R
Why Was She Even Invited?
"She showed up to a little get-together and the person who invited her said that they would be taking bets on who could sit with her for more than 30 minutes."
"10 bucks per person. Winner kept the pot."
"I assumed they were just being rude and planned to tell her of her 'friends' plans as soon as she showed up."
"She walked in, looked at me and scoffed, and asked if the grey car outside belonged to me."
"I said yes."
"She told me that with the money that car cost, I could have bought something nicer."
"Ok, well whatever."
"I went to get a drink and sat to watch the crowd gather around her."
"I already didn't like her but she went on to tell everyone about how she could never date someone who had a crappy credit score or couldn't pay their vehicles off after buying it."
"Someone who wanted to quit the contest asked for a cigarette, she opened up her purse and showed everyone a fresh pack of smokes and then told everyone why she doesn't smoke and why anyone who asks for a cigarette is either too broke to buy them or doesn't plan ahead of times."
"The guy asked her for one of her cigarettes, she said no and put them back in her purse."
"She talked about all the cars she 'bought' basically her parents would co-sign for her and pay the car off to build her credit and she would give them a few thousand to pay them back."
"She was nuts and wouldn't stop talking."
"I disliked her but was also fascinated with her. She was super weird."
"There was something like 15-20 people there and most entered the 'contest' I think the pot got up to 100-120 bucks."
"The winner was just some guy who I didn't know, he spent the money getting every one McDonald's and beer, so he was pretty cool."
"She was about 22-23, she had just finished getting her High School Diploma because she had dropped out to 'make money' according to her."
"I think she sold some milk shake things and fitness plans with some MLM."
"I'm not 100% what happened to her."
"She wasn't a my friend but she did show up to a few parties I was at and she seemed calmer."
"She used to bring her own bottle of liquor and wouldn't share which was kind of funny because on one occasion they caught her filling her bottle with a bottle of jack that some one had brought and left on the kitchen counter, but she swore that all she drank was Hennessey and Fireball."- Commentingunreddit
Cecily Strong Reaction GIF by Saturday Night LiveGiphyIt Is Never Attractive To Gloat
"I was listening to the NEXIVM podcast and the clip of the founder saying he has 225 IQ."
"If I walked into a room and heard someone say that I’d walk right back out."- Fabulous-Bandicoot40
Can't Say The Same About You Though...
"'You don't scare me'."
"Wasn't trying to scare you in the slightest."- That49er
Scared Saturday Night Live GIF by HULUGiphy...Both Could Still Be True...
“'Some people might say I’m an a**hole but I just tell it how it is'.”
"99% chance they are an a**hole that I don’t want to be around."- ProudMany9215
Negative Influence
"Was a customer at work, naturally I wouldn’t be friends."
"But even in a setting where we could become friends it wasn’t happening."
"I came up to her to see if she had any questions about our critters (I work in a pet shop) and the very first thing she asked was if parakeets could talk because she wanted to teach them racial slurs."
"Biggest nope of my life."- Quitechsol
It's fair to think that everyone deserves a second chance.
However, second chances must be earned, and not everyone is worthy of them.