Everyone has a story about a rough job they used to have. Maybe it was a bad boss who got on your nerves every day, or perhaps strict company guidelines forbidding you from wearing pants that went above your ankles. Either way it left a bad taste in your mouth that lingers to this day. What usually ends up happening when you talk it out with enough people is a lot of these shady practices seem to pop up in many areas.
Strange...
Reddit user, u/IllCreme, wanted to know:
What is unethical but is extremely common practice in the business world?
When You Already Know...
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I don't know about "unethical as f-ck," but going through the motions of pretending to entertain outside candidates when you've already decided on who internally will get the job. Wastes everyone's time.
Let's Keep You Where You Are
You apply for a new job within your current company, but do not get an interview or offered the job. Your current manager blocked it because you are deemed too valuable where you are.
A manager I worshiped apparently did this to me many times. The kicker is she would encourage me to apply for the position knowing full well what her plan was.
This Seems Really Open Ended
Companies(mine) that give you PTO hours that end up being capped but if you use the PTO you are punished by losing pay/shift differentials.
Re-categorizing Overtime?
Companies being allowed to give workers just below the minimum requirement of hours to avoid giving them benefits. Minimum is 40 hours a week? Work them 39.9 and not a minute more, or call any extra time 'overtime' so they get paid double or time and a half or whatever, which is great in the short term but cheaper in the long term of the company than giving them benefits.
A.B.S. = Always Be Standing
Don't know if it's been said before, but why in 2019 is it still considered "rude" for people to be sitting on the job? Restaurant Hosts or Supermarket Cashiers, like if its a slow hour of the day just let people rest their feet I don't get it.
Moreover, my Mother's owned a hair salon for years and has to stand up to do hair properly. She's been doing it her whole life, and used to in heels, so she has a lot of foot pain and tends to break foot bones every so often. And she doesn't even have a choice in her profession, why do that to people who would do just as good sitting down?
Define: FREE
Using the word "free" when I have to spend money to get the free thing.
It's not free unless I can walk into your business, get your product or service without paying a single penny, and walk out of your business.
If I have to pay even a single penny, it is not free, it is "included with purchase".
If words don't mean what those words mean, then nothing means anything.
Just A Lot Of Waiting...And Waiting...And Waiting...
"On call" scheduling: i.e. requiring employees to call in two hours before their shift starts to find out whether they are actually working--if you're not needed you don't get paid.
This insidious practice is unfortunately legal in the majority of U.S. states.
It's All The Same, Right?
Not disclosing to the customer that their product was built with used/refurbished parts. The justification is that: They have a failure rate the same as new ones.
I'm sure if the customer knew they'd probably be pretty pissed off though.
Sure, By The 15th You Meant The 27th, Right? Next Month?
Paying invoices late, especially BIG companies that pay a few months late. It kills small business, and seems to be quite normal here in the UK
Beneficial Redirection
Investment services like Edward Jones, who will recommend investing in funds that make THEM the most money. It's impossible to get good advice from these places.
Keeping It Hidden
Hiding fees until the service is provided.
I was in a car accident that required an ambulance ride, and I was charged DOUBLE for it. Apparently the 2 ambulance companies in my area are in cahoots, so rather than share the business in my area 50/50, they apparently devised a way to "split" it 100/100. They each have one person from the other company ride in their company's ambulance. The explanation I received was since a medic from the other company was riding along in the ambulance I took, they now can both charge me. Again, they didn't split the fee. They each charged me fully. It's almost a brilliant scheme, but also absolutely unethical and ridiculous, and I can't fathom how this is even legal. On a side note, they didn't even treat me on the ride.
Locking Them In
Purposefully giving part time employees erratic schedules so they can't take on a second job.
The Magical 32
Giving your employees just few enough hours that they don't qualify as a full time employee, so you don't have to pay them benefits.
I worked at Wal Mart in high school. There were older adults who worked tons of overtime. Really put their heart into the company. How were they rewarded? At the end of the pay period, they had shifts cancelled to keep them under 40 hours. Such a garbage company.
You can bet when I witnessed people shoplifting I looked the other way. F--- that company.
Who Loses When You Only Watch The Bottom Line?
Chronically and purposely understaffing.
Looking at you, retail and Assisted Living companies.
If They Don't Say Anything, Don't Pay Nothing
Not paying invoices until you've been chased multiple times.
As standard policy.
Marking It Up
raising prices before putting items on sale
As a former kohl's cashier, I can attest that they are the WORST with this. It should be illegal.
Any grocery store. I buy the same stuff every week and I know what the prices are, I know you literally made the price on this 150% and marked it down to regular price.
JUST. LET. ME. CANCEL.
I hate how convoluted it is to cancel a gym membership in most places. It's super shady. Sometimes you HAVE to mail a letter to the companies headquarters. Canceling at the gym isn't enough. Lots of people have gotten bills months later even though they were told over and over it was complete.
We Are People, After All
The multitudes of ways in which work life bleeds into personal life and you're expected to just accept that(and worse, actively embrace it) else you're perceived as someone who doesn't want to get ahead or otherwise isn't as valued as the person who does. The company will always try and get more free time from you but far less than always (bordering on never) actually give you back what that extra time costs.
What's an awful thing your job does that's considered legal? Tell us all about it!
Try not to follow the bad advice given here, because you don't want to get the results that these guys did.
U/Duckerton375 asked: What's the worst advice someone ever gave you, but you still followed?
The workplace can bring a cornucopia of terrible advice. Don’t follow these unless you want to get fired.
​Bad jobs are usually not worth it.
Stick with a job no matter how bad it is. I stayed with a terrible job working retail, dealing with horrible customers and sexual harassment. I was told I wouldn't find anything better.
"No, no, you misunderstand. I said you wouldn't find anything better at making you feel like complete garbage."
This gets really creepy really fast.
frustrated workplace GIFGiphy"After you put in a job application, you need to call them at least once a day every day until they hire you."
Note: this did not get me hired. It got me called out by the HR person I was calling and forbidden to ever contact their facility again.
I work for a law firm that employees over 1500 people in the home office alone. Once I received a call from the building security saying, "Insert Name is here to speak with the owner." Well we are run by a committee so that's odd. Found out they just applied for a job and wanted to talk directly to the person that would potentially hire them. Told him the firm will contact them to schedule an interview. They refused to leave without "talking to the owner." Had security escort them out of the building.
​This is absolutely not true.
"Sleep is for people who do not want success" great words from my uncle, it almost killed me.
Now I may be oversleeping.
​Interpersonal relationships are also a big breeding ground for terrible advice. Don’t listen to any of these.
Heartbreaking.
My father always tought me and my brother that "having friends is bad and in the end they will never be there for you" so everytime I told my father about my friends he would get kinda mad and give me the advice to stop talking to them.
Now I am afraid of people and have several trust issues, thanks dad.
​This won’t end well.
A Christmas Story GIF by filmeditorGiphyIn the fifth grade my teacher was talking about bullying, then she said "if anyone tries to bully you just agree with them." So the next time I got bullied I agreed with the bully and they bullied me more.
Dude one time I saw an anti bullying video that told the victims to just BE NICE TO THE BULLY. Like the bully was hurling insults and the victim was smiling and complimenting him. My first thought was about how much I hated the mere thought that this would work. My second thought was of how the people who came up with that method had clearly never been bullied.
​Oof.
When I met my now wife at the age of 19, one of my coworkers said that it's very important to start at the bottom with presents and work your way up, she still has the socks I gave her on our first anniversary on the wall over our bed as a reminder...
I'm still trying to teach my boyfriend about good presents and bad presents. Biscuits from the supermarket = bad present. Cheap unbranded laptop battery from China as my only present = bad present (and only lasted 2 months). Anything off my 7-page wishlist = good present. It's literally a list of things I want to receive as presents.
​Can tell you from experience that this is a bad idea.
Had a falling out with some friends. My husband recommended I reach out to an old friend who ghosted me suddenly in a manner that induced some pretty severe abandonment trauma. Went for it anyways because "it's been so long, surely they changed". Am now experiencing the same things as last time.
When you follow bad advice, it can lead to mistakes that you just can’t come back from.​
Buying a house is tricky.
for sale dancing GIF by Lisa VertudachesGiphy"Buy a home now before the prices go up!" -my FIL in 2006.
We bought in 2007 and paid $259,500 for our 1,300 sq ft house (we really couldn't afford it and had an 80/20 so we had 8% interest for one loan and 6% on the other) and in 2008 it was worth $97,000 so refinancing wasn't even an option. We watched all of our neighbors walk away or get foreclosed on but we kept paying our bills and as of this very moment our house is worth $462,000. I'm so happy we stuck it out, we both worked our @sses off and the house will be paid off in 2 years.
It worked out for us, it's a horrible idea. Especially since 1300 sq ft houses are $460+k
My heartbreaks for future generations, I honestly don't know how people are going to afford housing in the future.
It’s there for a reason.
"Never apply for any government assistance."
Cue years of suffering trying to work full-time with a painful disability. Quit a particularly terrible job, and wanted to apply for food aid until I could find another gig; a friend with lots of DHS experience recommended I apply for Social Security "just to get in the system." Turns out my disability was bad enough to get accepted the first time, which I wasn't expecting. Really could've used that support, oh, the 30+ previous years of my life.
Credit is important to have.
I was told to not get a credit card until after college. I was super fortunate to have my college paid for so I had no loans, car paid in cash, no credit card or anything to start building credit. Found myself out in the world at 22 years old with a credit score of 0.
So while a lot of this bad advice came from trusted people, oftentimes they were too misinformed to give that advice in the first place. Don't trust the word of one person--do your research, and make decisions for yourself.
It'll be way better in the long run