When living in a world run by social media, and where social media influencers are making money just from their lifestyle, we can safely assume that there are a few imposters out there. From online they look like they are living the dream, but in reality they're just day dreaming about what a lavish life would be like.
Many people will go as far as to take fake photos or lie about their possessions to seem like they're rich. Maybe they think it looks good on them and they're really pulling the wool over our eyes, but it's not that convincing.
So, Redditor IntergalacticDog1 wanted to know what people without wealth do to make them seem rich.
On Ask Reddit, IntergalacticDog1 asked:
"What screams 'I'm poor but pretend I'm rich'?"
The people Reddit had plenty of examples and hilarious stories.
Selfies for the "gram"
"Posting selfies posed with things that aren't yours."
"Can I direct you to my ex, who used to take pics with my kind of expensive accessories that I bought for myself way before I met him? That Louis bag isn't really yours darlin'. It's mine, and you just look [ridiculous]."
"My ex rented a Porsche and flexed it on his Instagram … made me wish i could've broken up with him a second time."
"The bane of owning a nice car or motorcycle is the number of people that think they can lean or sit on them to take photos. Legit came back to people sitting IN my car several times when I left the top down."
Epic fail.
"I worked as a PA on a really low rent rap video years ago. The dude was freshly signed to a minor label. He was calling in favors from people in the old hood so he didn't have to pay extras and stuff. He slept on his mom's sofa for the week of the video."
"Somebody in his posse was old enough to rent an exotic car (Bentley) from the exotic dealer near airport."
"The guy who rented it refused to let the rapper drive for the first day of the shoot."
"The second day, the rapper talked the guy into it. He drove it over a curb and hit a parking meter square across the hood. Both were crying and throwing stuff at each other."
Influencer life.
"Following/constantly posting [ridiculous] 'entrepreneur' sh*t on Instagram."
"Posts pictures of their cubicle and 'Grinding' or 'Let's get this bread!'"
"The first insurance company I worked for was American income life. They don't have cubicles, but they constantly talk about how much money they made that week, call each other stud, use the fire emoji endlessly, and hashtag things like #hustle and #mindset. It's exhausting."
Did you even read the book?
"I FELT this. GOD there's this girl in my year who's always post sh*t like 'work hard uwu' and pictures of her 'studying' or 'reading a book'. I saw her post a picture of her reading War and Peace (we were reading this for book club) with a caption about how reading was important and everyone should read War and Peace and how it would get you out of a reading slump (and fyi NO. War and Peace will NOT get you out of a reading slump. It's a decent read but it's likely to demotivate you if you haven't read in a long time)."
"So I asked her about the book and she freaked and started spouting some bullshit about how its a book teaching about peace and it lists ways for countries for being 'peaceful'. That's when I confirmed, she didn't even read the Sparknotes."
Oh, the irony.
"My brother always carries a wad of cash in a money clip. He has a $100 bill on the outside, but the rest is all $1's. It's all for show. He has no money and lives with my parents."
"That's actually funny because wealthy people put the ones on the outside and the big bills on the inside."
Financial Aid.
"My old roommate spent his entire financial aid refund on a Gucci belt because the security guard at the mall assumed he couldn't afford it."
People Share The 'Dirty Secrets' That Their Bosses Don't Want Customers To Know
At the 7/11.
"Use to work at a 7/11. Once a month for a week this guy would come in with a rented green Cadillac and a very obvious sex worker on his arm. Would flash a wad of money while in the store and make it VERY specific that he wants $10 on 'THAT GREEN CADILLAC RIGHT THERE!' Co-worker told me he does it with his SSI check."
"Who did he think he was impressing pumping $10 worth of gas?"
- that2foo
Such a stark contrast.
"An expensive, current year model car, parked in front of a low income apartment complex."
"On an 80 month loan with 12% APR."
"My cousin financed a brand new car (2019 Chevy Trax) shortly after I financed my much nicer, lightly used car (2016 Lexus RX350). The loan amounts were within 5% of each other, and both were 6 year loans. I have good credit. He has garbage credit. His payments are more than double mine. When I'm done, I'll pay a couple grand in interest, if that. When he's done, he'll have spent enough to buy two or three new cars."
"Forget ya neck, protect ya credit."
Real fake.
"I have a relatively poor friend who doesn't have a tv or anything, but they go around in a several hundred pound tracksuit and wear fake diamond rings they bought on wish, which he tells people are real."
"I never understood people thinking others would believe they're rich just by having some (probably fake) diamonds while still living in the same run down apartment. Wealthy people might have a nice watch or something, but they don't wear massive chains."
"A while back I saw a guy on YouTube who would go up to strangers decked out in diamonds, he'd compliment them, ask if it's all real, they'd usually say yes, and he'd take out a handheld diamond tester and ask if he can check. Whether it's staged or not it's some incredibly funny sh*t."
Just doing it for the photo-op.
"Taking pictures in a fake luxury airplane."
"A buddy of mine went to pretty high end clubs."
"There was this Instagram dude constantly shooting pictures with empty expensive bottles that either he requested at the bar, or took off the tables. I can't imagine how much of a joke your life has become at that point lol."
"Any Instagram 'influencer,' really. For the most part, if you're rich, you appreciate your privacy because your money has drawn more attention than you want. If you have to scrabble after attention it's because people aren't already giving it to you on your own merits."
"Most of these are 'Old money/new money' distinctions, and this is no different...but you don't see many wealthy people plastering their private lives all over social media."
"Bragging about how much money you have. Clothes and accessories with huge logos on them. Posting pictures of new items you purchased on Instagram and stuff."
"Especially cause the brands that actually impress rich folks are the ones the rest of us have never even heard of."
"The huge logo thing is funny to me. I remember when the polo shirts with the HUGE polo guy logo came out and thought about how tacky it looked. It used to be a nice little subtle accent on the shirt. Plenty of other brands have gone this way too from being a nice product with a subtle or small logo that people who knew what it was would notice. Now it's about making the logo huge so that's all you see."
- snap802
Keep the "haters" away.
"There's a woman in my country who really takes it to the next level with pretending to be filthy rich. She hires 6-7 men all dressed in black to be her 'bodyguards' and carry her purse everywhere she goes, make a whole production of it. When asked why she needed the bodyguards, she said she's afraid of her 'haters.' She'd also wear poofy princess dresses or anything equally gaudy, but unfortunately you can tell from the quality of her clothes they don't look that expensive."
The truth, but not the whole truth.
"Me, telling people I own Bitcoin, but conveniently not mentioning that I only own .002BTC."
"Some guy at my job was like 'do you trade?' And I was like uh, what? Of course his way of telling me he made some money with Doge. F*ck off buddy, we work at Goodwill and your other job is Walmart, no one is impressed."
- wrp1
"A guy I know was flexing about his bitcoin skills, told people to sell their car and put the money into bitcoin, when asked if he was doing the same he says, 'Oh no, not me, I haven't been able to buy a car yet, haven't had one in 12 years.'"
"He's in his mid 40s."
What the social media influencers forget is that the world still sees them beyond their social media platform. It's time for a reality check.
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The Darkest Facts About The Food Industry
Reddit user Miserable_Papaya1814 asked: 'What dark facts do you know about food industry?'
Many people prefer to know as little about what they're eating as possible, while others will do copious research about their food, namely how safe and hygienic what they just ate was.
Sometimes going down that rabbit hole of research, you might learn something about a product you just purchased or a restaurant that you wish you hadn't.
Then too, some of what you may read is purely urban legend and has absolutely no basis in fact.
Unfortunately, some information is merely the surface of shocking, disgusting secrets.
"What dark facts do you know about food industry?"
Unwanted Extra Ingredients...
"Sometimes the salads aren't bug free."
"There were times where I received crap for taking too long washing lettuce."
"Staff would wash a large container of lettuce like once or twice."
'I did it 3 or 4 times."
"I didn't stop until the water was clear and had no bugs."
"The others had a 'who cares' attitude."
"One time my boss needed my help and said to me frustrated, 'The lettuce is already washed, unpack it in salads quickly'."
"The lettuce looked dirty so I said to myself 'I can't sell this to people'."
"I washed it and guess what the water looked like."
"Dark brown from soil, 50+ dead gnats, a living and swimming spider the size of a penny."- FightStageYouTube
The Contaminants Will Not, Though...
"Worse I participated in as kitchen staff in a rather top-flight restaurant."
"On a slow summer Sunday afternoon, the boss sent us down to the walk-in meat coolers to spray paint the rusted walls."
"We were instructed to not remove the contents of cooler first; rather just shift the meat from one side of cooler to other."
"The coat of silver spray paint will come off during cooking."- Zealousideal_Lie_383
Season 11 Cooking GIF by MasterchefGiphyYou Have No Idea What's Been In There...
"The deep fryer grease is long overdue for a change; but it’s expensive to do so nightly."- Zealousideal_Lie_383
And People Go To Bed Hungry...
"The amount of waste thrown away every single day by grocery stores."
"I worked in the meat department of a decently sized grocery store and the waste their was nauseating."
"I sh*t you not, we would throw away an industrial sized garbage bin worth of meat, fish, and poultry every single day."
"The expiration dates dictated everything which is obviously a sensible policy to have, but they wouldn't do anything about it."
"They wouldn't donate it, let employees take it home, or make adjustments to the orders so we wouldn't have to throw so much away."
"The reasoning was always 'better have to much than not enough' which I guess makes a little sense, but when I am throwing away dozens of pounds of tenderloins, center cut fish and shellfish per night, its to much."
"Mind you, this is one department of one grocery store."
"Sorry for the rant but I feel like it needed to be said."- Zastrow_Studios
Waste Management Food GIF by UC DavisGiphyThere's A Reason They're "All You Can Eat..."
"In my country, buffets often sell spoiled food, like if the employees see mold on top of the sour cream, they just scrape it down and continue selling it."
"Also, if they sell cooked meat, they often leave them on the counter for days and add some oil to it every morning to look fresh."- Wooden_Potential_699
Don't Believe Everything You Hear... (But Remember, This One Was In Canada...)
"So odd to see all of the comments that chain places are dirty!"
"On the weekends I work as a server in the lounge of Boston Pizza (Canadian chain—not sure if there are any in the states) and when I started working there I was seriously impressed with the cleanliness procedures!"
"For one example, parmesan and chilli containers are emptied and cleaned every night, as well as salt and pepper shakers!"
"Kitchen protocols are very clean and organized as well!"- noobishpineapple
Happy Season 17 GIF by The SimpsonsGiphyNot Exactly "Haute Cuisine"...
"You'd never want to eat at a restaurant again once you saw how much of your $70 meal for two came frozen and pre-prepared in plastic bags."- PhilipLiptonSchrute
It's Not Just The Greens That Need Washing...
"Grocery distribution warehouses are often extremely filthy and rarely cleaned."
"Wash anything canned, bottled or jarred!"
"They're filthy as hell, covered in microplastics, rotten food, mouse pee, bird sh*t, etc etc."
"I used to do maintenance on conveyor systems for a major US chain and they just send sh*t flying down the conveyors so fast that, its fairly common for glass to shatter because of the vibrations, food to fall off, etc etc."
"I saw Bats, Birds and Mice in that facility, but it was within tolerance of their health policy."
"Also saw people that were sick sneezing and coughing on products."
"Never saw a floor scrubber go through the warehouse the entire 3mo I worked there and I was doing alternating double shifts!"
"The only time I saw a broom was if there was shattered glass."- -Plunder-Bunny-
mice GIFGiphyRemember, All These Incidents Are Case By Case...
"As a former chef, I've got to say that I've never seen any of the horrible stuff mentioned here over my career (mostly higher end and fine dining establishments)."
"We on ocassion would have things like frozen airline chicken breasts brought in, but other than that we did all prep and cooking by hand with fresh ingredients from mostly local purveyors when possible."
"We also broke down and deep cleaned every night from the ranges to the floors to the wells to the vents."
"Every night."
"Myself and staff have always taken this sh*t very seriously, and it's always disappointing when you hear of this kind of behavior."
"Do better, people."- iamtehryan
They Trick You With The Language
"It’s more like misleading labeling."
"No sugar."
"Right?"
"Wrong if you read ingredients on a lot of these packaging it will say things like maltodextrin and dextrose."
"That’s actually a sugar."
"Because of regulation they only have to label it no sugar and people think it’s healthy, etc."- SavemebabyK
Maybe Just Stick With Sausage...
"Worked in a pepperoni factory 20+ years ago as an accountant."
"Found that the more MSP in the bill of materials, the lower quality and cheaper the product."
"Looking at the stuff, it looked kind of like an old square crumbly eraser if you remember those."
"So I asked what MSP was."
"It's 'mechanically separated pork'."
"When I asked what that means, they told me that after all the good meat is cut off of a pig, a power washer is used to blast the remaining flesh off the carcass."
"That's scooped up, dried out and packaged as MSP."
"Enjoy your next cheap pepperoni pizza."- Lahk74
Catering Happy Birthday GIF by Feliks Tomasz KonczakowskiGiphyIt's very easy to decide not to eat at a certain restaurant, or dine at a certain grocery store owing to a less-than-appealing appearance.
That being said, many people might be surprised to discover that conditions at the "higher end" options might be as bad or worse.
Then too... if the food is delicious, and has yet to make you sick, then perhaps ignorance is, in fact, bliss.
Fast food is a staple in most households. While not the healthiest option our there, the food is always good, and it's a great option when you need something fast or in a pinch.
There are dozens of fast food places out there, and everyone has a favorite. My brother and I go to Wendy's once a week, and while we'll eat at other places when we have to, we don't like any place better than Wendy's.
With everyone having a favorite fast good restaurant, everyone also has a least favorite. Redditors are sharing which fast food restaurants they hate so much, they refuse to eat at them.
It all started when Redditor Feisty_Affect_7487 asked:
"What is one fast food restaurant you will never go to?"
Health Code Violation?
"Sonic. Got served rotten dairy, then got called a lying f**king b*tch by the manager. I wasn't even asking for money back since I was already out of town. Just called to warn them that it was rotten."
– Apprehensive-Air8917
"Welp might as well add the time I got a chili dog from Sonic and noticed a strange color on the side while looking at, only to pick it up and reveal that the entire underside of the bun was covered in blue mold. How the f**k does a person not notice that before it gets out the window?"
– GDMFusername
"Me eating my chicken tenders from Sonic while reading this"
"oh."
– burnt_seawing_the2nd
Employee Horrors
"Sonic- I worked there, the hotdogs/chilly have a chance of being 2+ days old, same with the gravy. You also better hope someone taught an employee how to clean the ice cream/ slushy machines. If not, you might have a similar story to mine. When I was new, they were training us at an old sonic, so we would go work at a new one. The manager was also 'new' to that area and was heading to the new one."
"So one day, he decided it was time to clean the ice cream machine and asked one of the employees from there to teach us. They didn't know how, so he went around asking, and no one who worked there knew how to clean it. So he gathered us around to teach us, he shut down the machine and opened it up. A cascade of ice cream mix and maggots came pouring down. The machine was apparently crushing the maggots as it mixed the ice cream. He cleaned the slushy machine the next day, but I wasn't there to see it, I just heard it wasn't pretty."
– petty_witch
"I have a similar story about the Dairy Queen I worked at."
"There was a little drainage channel built into the machine, so melted soft serve could go to the floor grate. This was predictably never cleaned, and soon enough - maggots."
"Owner was informed, and he just said "use bug spray" (which would, of course, have gotten into the ice cream...). Manager rushed over from their other restaurant and desperately tried to clean it with a pipe cleaner, then threatened to fire anyone who spoke a word about it."
"Fun times."
– joefred111
"when you pay like sh*t and cut corners at every opportunity then yeah youre gonna have employees who barely keep it together, if at all."
"I used to run a DQ. Busiest one in the entire region. I was routinely by myself, 7am to well into the night. Towards the end I was getting 130 hours a week in a salaried position. I was *sleeping at the restaurant* it was so bad. The moment I left "oh we'll give you whatever you want!!!" like no dude it's two years too late"
– verdenvidia
"I'm never getting fast food ice cream ever again what the F**K"
– 4ps22
Ew. Just...Ew.
"Jack in the Box restaurant I used to go to almost weekly while working overnights was closed down due to spider infestation of the breading for fried chicken..."
– Tzokal
"In the early 1990s an e-coli outbreak was traced to Jack in the Box. It killed four children, and something like 700 or 800 people got sick. Never eaten there since then."
– Schmliza
What It Turned Into
"Panera is over priced cardboard portrayed as food, blech."
– criket2016
"I would like to apologize for the greed of a once great company called St. Louis Bread Co., nationally known now as Panera Bread. When they started in St. Louis, it truly was different and very good. Mass production does this to most great food. As a St. Louisan who used to love St. Louis Bread Co and even worked there for a short time, I apologize for what they have become."
– Roach55
"I had the weirdest, dumbest experience at a Panera in Portland, Oregon, about ten years ago. I went there under the impression it was going to be good. It was bland and overpriced, but didn't stand out as anything other than kind of mediocre. But the customer service was AWFUL. Legitimately, just the worst. The gal that took my order was needless rude, even though we were polite and tipped generously, and then when I tried to use their restroom and found it was locked, the manager stormed out of her office and yelled at me, saying that I had to be escorted in and out of the bathroom and couldn't just do my business in peace. She marched me to the restroom, stood guard outside and then walked me back to me table after like we were in a prison yard. It was so bizarre and humiliating. I never went back and left them some rock bottom reviews."
"They were near a MAX station, so that's probably why they were so edgy about the bathroom use, but if I actually were a homeless person I think I just would have peed on their floor rather than putting up with kthat kind of treatment."
– Bonbonnibles
Rue The Day
"Every year or two I give Burger King another chance and I always regret it. Can't imagine ever going back."
"Can't remember the last time I've been to a KFC... maybe 5-6 years?"
– ButtholeQuiver
"Burger King used to at least have really good fries but something changed in the last decade or so. I've been there maybe twice in the last five years and regretted each time lol."
– WritingTheDream
Decades Without
"Kentucky Fried Chicken. Food poisoning at 2 different locations during college. I've made it 3 decades not going back."
– bmtri
"Agree. Those mashed potatoes gotta come from a box. Bleh."
– Who-took-my-abs
"I worked there for a month in 1998. Haven't eaten it since."
– g_pelly
"i’ve heard so many stories in my life of people getting food poisoning after eating kfc, that i’ve just never tried it"
– daylightcoke
"I loved KFC as a kid. I took my kids once about 2 yrs ago. It was inedible."
– mykittenfarts
Inflation Is Real
"Subway."
"It's all just awful and I have a proper sandwich shop the same distance in the other direction."
– Jonny2284
"I went last week after about a 6-7 year absense. The $5 foot longs were $12 and $13!?!"
– High_Jumper81
A Complete Mess
"I'm done with mcdonalds. Sh*ts not cheap anymore and the food is always trash. That's if you even get the right order"
– Deceiver999
"The one near me has forgotten items EVERY time I order on the app. I honestly think they’re trying to scam people and they just hope you don’t walk inside and ask them to fix it"
– taco3donkey
An Interesting Cure
"First time I ever went to White Castle/Crystal it ended with me sh*tting my brains out for an hour. Never again"
– blackmobius
"I mean, they call 'em sliders for a reason. :V"
– Funkette
"My grandfather literally gets White Castle when he’s constipated for this reason."
– helloxcthulhu
Remember The Good Old Days?
"Pizza Hut pizza is atrocious now."
– Carmaca77
"Pizza Hut was done the minute they switched to those god awful frozen dough disks and not fresh made like it used to be."
– thedeadbeatclubsc
"It started going downhill 25 years ago. As a kid in the 70's it was great, and not because I was a kid at a pizza place, but because you would sit down at a red-checkered table cloth, a server would greet you nicely. And the place was clean. Now it feels like you're going into a money laundering front with angry servers and everything is sticky and smells like dirty socks."
– BaconReceptacle
Food Isn't The Only Thing That Matters
"Popeyes."
"The food is great. The service is just absolute garbage. There are always missing items from my order. Coke machine always broken. I refuse to go there anymore. I've been to several locations in San Antonio and they all the same."
– starshame2
"A Popeye's opened up in the town I used to live in and I went there for lunch one day. Pretty much got yelled at for coming and they basically threw my food at me. It was fire, though."
– coombuyah26
"Pretty sure it’s a company policy to have sh*tty service. I don’t think I’ve ever seen something as consistent country wide as bad service at Popeyes."
– BustyUncle
I'm starting to think maybe fast food shouldn't be a staple.
Who doesn't love a great television show?
Truly great storytelling has come from that little home entertainment box.
But there is something to be said about staying too long at the party.
Too many fabulous shows have had their legacies tainted by not bowing out sooner.
Staying on the air too long tends to lead to ludicrous plots that ruin everything.
And so many shows have tanked by ludicrous plot twists that just ruin everything.
Maddie and David shagging on 'Moonlighting.'
Bobby Ewing's death a dream on 'Dallas.'
All of 'ER' after Clooney's departure.
The list of grievances is endless.
Redditor rayray1010 wanted to hear about the ways TV has been destroyed, so they asked:
"What single plot decision ruined a good television series?"
Break Out
prison break GIFGiphy"Prison Break was a great concept for a show. But then once they broke out of prison they kept making the show."
Se7enLC
"Fox doesn't know when to cancel a show. They either go for a season or two too long or they get canceled too early."
bangbangracer
Too Weird
"Deb being in love with Dexter. I don't know what they were thinking."
wilmontcm
"It was kind of pointless. If they brought it up in the first place, they should've run with it. Then, on their wedding day, Debra finds Dexter's slides."
"I can hear her now 'I was getting ready to marry my brother, but now I find out he's a f**king serial killer!!'"
GrandUnhappy9211
"Came looking for this. Weirdest plot choice ever."
RateNXS
Grievances
"We could fill this entire comment section with GoT grievances :/ "
DIWhy-not
"Season eight singlehandedly took one of, if not the most talked about shows at the time and made collapse into pop culture oblivion! Not a single person I knew or interacted with wasn't watching 'Game of Thrones,' I swear every other conversation looped back to that show eventually, but after S8 no one gave a sh*t about it."
Enganeer09
"There were so many, and this is so unpopular opinion, but Dany and Jon falling in love was just boring. I hope GRRM avoids it but I guess the chance for that is low. I mean, the chance he ever finishes another book for the series is low."
sharksarenotreal
Over It
"The Blacklist writers almost cruelly withholding answers from the audience year after year after year."
zsal830
"I gave up when Liz died and Dembe became an FBI agent, and the show was already dying before that for me. I loved watching James Spader's acting, but it got to the point that even that wasn't enough to keep me involved. I've heard it's in the final season now, so once it's over I'll just Google the ending and that's good enough for me."
Bobisburnsred
Bad Changes
Episode 3 GIF by BBC ThreeGiphy"Misfits when they started getting rid of the main characters from season 1."
discostud1515
"The second the group changed the show lost what made it great."
legend_forge
That show was delightfully strange and certainly fit its title.
Cast shake-ups can really zap a show of its magic... especially when the show itself is about super powers.
Oh Luke
season 4 netflix GIF by Gilmore Girls Giphy"When they revealed Luke had a child he didn't know about in Gilmore Girls."
writtenrain
"Like I feel bad because she’s a kid, but I hate April. Such a terrible plot device. There was plenty going on without her coming into the picture."
helloitstessa
Stop at the beginning
"When they left the park in Westworld."
Indian_Bob
"Unfortunately the writers were very keen to write a commentary on AI in society, and thus drove it in a direction, which as a show in itself is interesting, but went a lot further than the source material in this regard. There were two shows there and neither was done justice."
IHaveHivesWithBees
"I think Season 1 is one of the best shows ever made. It has everything: characters, story ark, riddle, and its closure and very good (just a bit open) ending. Other seasons are just an attempt of producers to milk the story and Id rather pretend they don’t exist."
techlogger
Too Soon
"Sherlock f**ked up by killing Moriarty too early."
"Andrew Scott's performance was so great that they then had to keep trying to shoehorn the already dead Moriarty into later plots or end up with the travesty that was the last series with Sherlock's even smarter sister, who secretly cooked up everything with Mortiarty, just so they could have more Moriarty scenes."
"The whole show went from top-class Peak TV to absolute dogs**t in a slow decline that started with the poor Doylist decision to kill Jimbo."
Histary_Studentary
A Re-Work
"The overall seventh season of Once Upon a Time. It should have been reworked in its entirety."
StillAnIntrovert
"I agree with that. Another bad point was when they made Emma the Dark One when they literally just introduced Lilly, who had the saviors' darkest potential."
"That could have been an epic villain as 'The Dark Savior.'" Also, them constantly having Rumple and Belle get back together. He was power-driven and would always put her second. I loved it in season 4 when she finally realized that and banished him from Storybrooke."
Electrowhatt19
Many of these franchises jumped the shark, as they say.
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Family relationships are already complex, but the involvement of in-laws and an adult relationship take the dynamics of family to a whole other level.
But if someone's spouse were to tragically pass away, they'd have to decide what the future of their family would look like, and whether or not they'd want their in-laws, who'd technically then be disconnected, to stay in the picture.
Redditor TLMoore93 asked:
"If your spouse passed away, would you maintain a relationship with your in-laws? Why or why not?"
Putting Grandchildren First
"Yes, so they could continue to have a relationship with their grandchild."
- CharsOwnRX-78-2
"Absolutely this. In addition, I trust my in-laws alone with my child more than I trust my father, to the extent I have listed custody arrangements in my will. In-laws definitely go before my dad in the custody line."
"I have every expectation that in the event of the worst, they would absolutely still be there for me and my child."
- nutbrownrose
Avoiding Family Drama
"Two of my in-laws don't get along (his sibling and one of his parents). My husband has already told them basically, 'Don't be a**holes if I'm dying.'"
"He does have a disease that can but isn't guaranteed to end his life earlier than average ... anything can happen. We are in our 30s, he was told he wouldn't live past his teens. He's good right now, all things considered."
"That being said, I can fully see my Mother-in-Law either being an angel or a thorn in my side if he passes before she does. Hope it's the former."
"Either way, I know what he wants, and that's no drama or disrespect... but if someone's being an a**hole, he doesn't want to be involved. So I'd be following that."
- Satansrainbowkitty
The Best Relationships
"Yes, they're nicer than my parents."
- Lowflyin
"My mother-in-law is nicer than my mom, anyway. No way I wouldn't be there for her, she's worked so hard to provide for my Fiancé, no way I could not keep her in my life."
- Thrilling1031
The Support System
"I know I've become a better person as an adult so I'm probably easier to get along with now, but the immediate acceptance and love I received from my fiance's family just endeared them to me a million times more than anything I've felt for my own family."
"He has also encouraged me to be closer to my own, which is great."
- Danceswithunicornz
Under Their Wing
"The second I started dating their son, my in-laws took me in and treated me like one of their own. I didn't know what a kind, loving family or parents were really like before, experiencing it was a huge revelation."
"I would absolutely maintain a relationship with them, and I know they would want the same."
- McMew
"My partner’s parents did the same with me. To feel unconditional parental love for the first time was surreal."
"My partner passed away five years ago and I am still close with his mom especially, she brings me so much comfort and I am so happy we have continued our relationship. We desperately needed each other in the early days of our grief and now I don’t think either of us could imagine it any other way."
- arrwine
A Close Bond
"We aren't married (yet) but I refer to my boyfriend's parents as my in-laws. And in turn, they introduce me to others as their daughter-in-law. My boyfriend's mom is my best friend. I absolutely love her to bits. We hit a rough patch a couple of years ago and she took me for coffee to talk about it and assured me that even if the worst happened, she would always be there for me and in my life whether he liked it or not, because she loves me."
"I didn't know what a real family was supposed to be like until I met them either. For my 18th birthday, the first birthday I spent with him, my boyfriend asked me what I wanted to do, and I had never really celebrated my birthday since I was a child because we either couldn't afford it or my mom and I were fighting over one thing or another."
"He knew this because I told him. So, on my birthday my boyfriend picked me up, took me to McDonald's to get a McFlurry, then took me to Dominos to pick up the pizza he ordered for us."
"When we got to his house, his mom had most of the lights off and she was standing in the kitchen with a cake, candles lit, and a gift bag on the counter. They started singing happy birthday when I walked in. To say I cried is an understatement. They have done this every single year since then."
"Christmas is regularly celebrated in my family because we save up for it. But man, that first Christmas I spent with my boyfriend, I cried again because when I got to his mom's house there was a stocking with my name on it and it was full. His whole family got me gifts."
"I wasn't prepared that year, but the next year I went ALL out on gifts for him and his family. His mom includes me in absolutely everything. And when I can't make it to something, I know d**n well she'll be phoning me on her drive home to tell me all about it and give me all the gossip.
- Burnt_Your_Toast
Together Through Grief
"My wife died, in my arms, on May 13th of cancer complications. Her dad called me last night to check in on me and her mom called the day before for the same reason. I call them Mom and Dad, and they will be that for the rest of my life."
- Cubbycupcake-Uther
"I'm so very sorry for your loss. We found out on May 25th that my wife has brain cancer. No cure... just have to treat it and deal with it as long as possible. I have been an absolute mess inside, but trying to hold it together for my two boys. She is the eternal optimist of the family and is ready for whatever comes next. We find out the biopsy results tomorrow."
"Her family is my family, and I know that we will have each other."
"I hope that you are ok and that you can find some peace. This is the worst. If there's anything I can take from this, it is that I will never waste a day... or the opportunity to help someone that needs it. My circle has been amazing, but I know not everyone has that."
- daddyboi83
Chosen Family is Forever
"My oldest sister passed away in 1989 before I was born in 1994. My whole life I've had this guy named Vince in my family. He's the nicest, sweetest, and funniest dude and has always been like a really fun uncle to me."
"He basically lived with my parents for years after my sister died. My Dad took him in as his pseudo son and even after he started dating this wonderful woman years later he would still come on family vacations with us."
"He asked my dad permission to marry his new girlfriend back in the 90s as a sign of respect. Of course, he said yes."
"Unfortunately two years ago or so she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and today her condition is getting worse and worse to the point he can't leave the house anymore."
"He has experienced unimaginable pain for a man to now go through what is essentially two deaths of wives in his life. Again, he's the nicest guy ever, and the positivity he's always carried about himself."
"But yes, if you have a good relationship with in-laws, keep it. Chosen family is forever."
- nightmarenarrative
On the Flip Side
"Absolutely not. I would never talk to them again. They are horrific people."
- Disastrous-Phase-797
"Although mine aren't horrific, they are definitely not my favorite people in the world. I have little to no interaction with them now so having no interaction at all sounds wonderful."
- tjcline09
Inhospitable Environment
"I would totally cut them out of my life. They are horrible people who think only of themselves."
"They've ruined every holiday, birthday, and special occasion where I've included them."
"This is my second marriage and I'm closer to my first in-laws than these posers. I only tolerate them occasionally for my husband but basically, I avoid them now."
- Ihavethebestdogs
Family Heritage
"I would. I like my wife's parents and extended family, and they'd certainly want to know how our son is doing."
"On top of that, my wife's side of the family is African-American, and I feel like my son should have some sort of connection to that heritage."
- Nihiliste
Positive Connections
"Not passed away, but I got divorced almost 20 years ago and still see my former MIL and SIL when they're in town. And I stay with them when I'm in their town. Love them!"
- alert_armidiglet
The Conflicted Answers
"I don't know. I really like my in-laws and consider them family, but aside from the fact that I married their daughter, we have no common ground. I think hanging out with them would ultimately just be painful."
- Anakin_Skywand
"That's what I am thinking. I would totally keep in contact with them, especially because my nephews from her side would be even more confused if I wouldn't visit anymore, and I love them, but I cannot picture how you can continue life if you stay too close to them."
"Honestly, I wouldn't know what to do when my wife passed all of a sudden. Besides losing my grandparents when I was 18, I have never faced a tragic loss and have no idea how I would react."
- ZedsDeadZD
Unconditional Love
"Today is actually my 5-year angeliversary."
"I do keep in contact with her family, and they have been my family for 19 years before she passed away."
"They are still my brothers and sisters. They are still my children's aunts and uncles, and grandmother."
"I still love them like I always have."
- ericstott
The Grandparent Connection
"I'm not widowed but divorced. I made sure my son, who decided on no contact with his dad, kept in touch with his paternal grandmother. We went to visit her at Christmas and her birthday, which is more than my ex did."
"No reason why she should miss out on a grandson entirely, just because we were not together anymore."
- yonthickie
While it's difficult to imagine what life would be like without our favorite loved one in our lives, it might be even more complicated to think of how the surrounding relationships would change.
There were some who saw those relationships dissolving immediately, but others felt they'd lean into these relationships more, accepting the support any of us would desperately need during such a time.