People Break Down Which Historical Figures Are Seen As Bad Guys, But Weren't Actually Bad
It's easy to assume things about history since we weren't actually there. We're taught to believe everything we read, but often times, it takes more research to figure out the truth.
There are a lot of historical figures we believe were bad based on what we first read or heard. However, upon further research, we find out they weren't actually that bad.
Some of them got a bad reputation even though all they did was make a mistake. Others just weren't appreciated for their ideas and inventions during their own time. Some of them are even heroes!
It seems Redditors did some of that extra research and are ready to share their findings.
It all started when Redditor jamespeech111 asked:
"Who is a bad guy in history who actually wasn’t a bad guy?"
Before His Time
"William Thomas Green Morton died broke defending his discovery of anesthesia. He was a dentist and didn’t get much respect from the doctors at the time. IMO one of the most important medical discoveries."
"anesthesia is arguably THE most important medical discovery in history. Modern surgery is literally impossible without it."
The Wrong Story
"Richard Jewel - initially lauded as a hero and a brave man who ran towards the bomb to help…"
"then the FBI and media turned on him and accused him of doing the bombing himself… because;"
"he was actually just as f*cking outlandishly brave and ran toward the bomb to help people,"
"They took his truck for evidence, he had to go into hiding… made a villain by incompetent people… For YEARS… finally exonerated and dies shortly afterward"
Aye Aye Captain
"Captain Bligh. His mistake was being too soft rather than too harsh. He let his crew slack off while they were waiting to make sure the breadfruit trees would survive transplantation, and they mutinied when he put them back to work."
"It should also be mentioned that when his some of his crew mutinied so many of them wanted to be allowed to leave with him on the ship's tiny open launch that even fully laden they would not all be able to go and had to draw lots to see who had to stay on The Bounty. Captain Bligh then had to sail the tiny overcrowded poorly provisioned boat 6700km to Timor using dead reckoning. He did not lose a single man."
"The McDonald’s coffee lady - the woman who sued mcDonalds after she spilled coffee on her lap received 3rd degree burns in her pelvic area. She was hospitalized for 8 days and required a couple years of rehabilitation."
"The media jumped on the story making it a poster case for frivolous lawsuits."
"Omg I vividly remember this story! It was so sad tbh. At first I thought it was stupid too, but then I read she had severe burns and all. She really wasn’t overreacting."
One Comment Changed His Life
"Niccolo Machiavelli. Machiavelli didn't invent the idea of lying or ruthlessness. He made an observation about what worked and tried to get a new gig."
"Now his name is synonymous with "heartless manipulator.""
"Agreed. People often reduce his message down to "you should be opportunistic and manipulative", which wasn't what he was saying at all."
"It was more that he recognised that the worst atrocities in society typically occur during or shortly after huge political upheaval, and believed that if preventing that sometimes requires being opportunistic and manipulative, then that is a price worth paying."
"And whilst we all have lines that we think a regime shouldn't cross, and limits to what power a state should be allowed to exercise, he did a have bit of a point. If we think of the worst atrocities across history, they do tend to follow political upheaval. Had the Treaty of Versailles not sought to punish a generation of Germans, Hitler may never have risen to power in the first place."
"Ironically, some of the people who were great admirers of Machiavelli's philosophy, like Joseph Stalin, were responsible for the very kind of terrible things Machiavelli was warning people about."
Queens On The Throne
"Pharaoh Cleopatra, she was actually a pretty good ruler with her focusing more on her nation than just abusing her position for her own benefit, there’s even some records saying that she wasn’t even all that beautiful, she was however very intelligent with stuff like how she learned around 10 different languages"
"First member of the ptolemaic dynasty to bother learning Egyptian. She did amazing things in managing to actually expand Egypt's territory in a time of Roman dominance.... however in the end she monumentally screwed up/lost her nerve at the Battle of Actium and doomed pharaonic Egypt."
Money Talks...And Lies
"Captain Hazelwood of the Exxon Valdez."
"He is often pictured on the helm of the Exxon swaying drunkenly going full throttle into the reef talking like a "pirate.""
"What actually happened."
"Valdez's critical navigation equipment was out of commission, faxs sent to Exxon and Exxon told them to sail instead."
"Coast guard budget cuts removed vessel tracking in the area."
"Green and tired crew was on duty, request was made to relief crew. It was denied."
"XO who was on Conn at the time was inexperienced on the passage and neither requested pilotage."
"While Hazelwood did drink that day he was not in command of the conn at the time and was in his quarters resting."
"Hazelwood made a comment that "He needed a drink." Because of how upset he was over the situation."
"Exxon's PR paid off the media to blame Hazelwood."
"However Hazelwood was charged with only one charge which was for pollution. He proved he was not a drunkard and retained his captain's license. Even getting offers to sail again which he turned down."
"The real villains are mass media, False News, and comedians but Exxon's PRs spending power to keep the blame off them."
"Hazelwood passed away last year after the annv of the spill."
"Random fact the Valdez sailed until 2008 under different name Oriental Nicety"
Not A History Book
"In brave heart, William Wallace gets betrayed by Robert the Bruce which never happened, he was loyal to the end"
"That movie made me so angry. I grew up on it, and loved it for what I assumed was a historically accurate portrayal. Not only is the movie absurdly inaccurate, the real history is arguably more interesting that the movie! There was no need for "artistic restructuring". They could have just dramatized the actual events and it would have been a great movie"
"In the film Titanic the character Murdoch killed someone, took bribes and generally came across as a right sh*t. He was a real life person who was actually a hero and saved many lives. His living relatives were so disgusted that the VP of Fox travelled to Dalbeattie to personally apologise and presented a £5000 donation to Dalbeattie High School to boost the school's William Murdoch Memorial Prize."
"That movie's initial gross was over $1.8B! Donating £5000 is like the average US man giving them a dime and saying my bad"
A Bad Accusation
"That woman who was accused of kidnapping children because her kids didn't have her DNA, but in fact her uterus had different DNA than the rest of her body."
"Lydia Fairchild. She has chimerism, so her uterus has different DNA from the rest of her body (the DNA of her absorbed twin)"
"Tom the cat. Jerry is a menace."
"There was a post the other day talking about them and how they are actually working together."
"As long as jerry keeps running around, the humans think they have a mouse problem so they keep the cat. As long as Tom keeps showing he’s making an effort they think he’s doing a good job. But they are both in on it and just do it to keep up appearances."
"There’s apparently an episode where they work together to get food from the fridge, then hide and share it as friends before going back out and chasing each other again."
I can so buy into that!
Well, this was more interesting than many of our history classes!
Do you have any interesting tidbits to share? Let us know in the comments below.
Not all knowledge is power.
Some knowledge is straight-up horror-inducing.
I mean, I suppose it's good to know as much bad stuff as possible so we can try to avoid it all.
Redditor Possible_Hawk495 wanted to hear about all of the worst possible things in life, so they asked:
"What is a disturbing fact you wish you never knew?"
I'm not sure I'm ready for this...
"WARNING - The following is not for the faint of heart or anyone under 17. Or anyone with a pulse probably..."
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"It's illegal in India to find out the gender of your baby, because so many prefer boys over girls."
"Just like China, they don't think long term enough about it."
While You Were Sleeping
"That one can be aware they are in coma and not able to get out of it. I get anxious just thinking about it."
"I’ve been in a coma, it’s different experiences based on the conditions, I believe. I was in it when I had multiple organ failure when I was 22."
"Even though you’re aware, I wouldn’t equate my experience to being fully aware and stuck. It kind of feels like when you wake up from a very very deep nap, and things seem fuzzy. Weirdly enough being in that state for a few week was some of the most peaceful my body ever felt being honest."
"Just how painful and torturous extreme radiation sickness is."
"Between that video and the scene in HBO’s Chernobyl where the firefighter is screaming for help in the hospital as his skin falls off, I have learned not to be too cavalier about the use of nuclear armaments or nuclear safety."
The usual suspects...
"After any significant natural disaster or conflict starts up, human traffickers swarm to the country looking for unattended children. Law enforcement will start watching ports of entry for the usual suspects... the usual suspects."
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"A toddler's adult teeth are right below their eyes."
"Yeah, I saw a photograph of a small child's skull with part of the area around the jaw removed and it's just packed with teeth."
My teeth were where? OMG!
From the Inside
"Tarantula hawks are giant flying wasps that sting tarantulas, inducing paralysis. They then drag the paralyzed tarantula back to their nest and lay eggs in them. The eggs hatch, and the larvae slowly devour the still-alive, paralyzed tarantula from the inside."
"Rabies. Just everything about rabies."
"Once you're symptomatic, 99.99% fatality rate and that 'lucky' iota that survive in medically-induced comas end up with permanent neurological damage. Also, the horrifying hallucinations."
"Rabies is pretty interesting. if you are vaccinated then it's 100% preventable, if not your chance of dying is 99.9%."
After the Hatch
"I remember watching an episode of the show Monsters Inside Me where this 16-year-old kid was doing something outside and a fly flew into his eye. It only made contact for about a microsecond, but it was enough time for it to lay eggs. After they hatched they started eating his eye from the inside and he was starting to go blind until a doctor finally figured out what was wrong."
"Just imagine that, getting your eye eaten from the inside and losing your sight all because a fly very briefly made contact with you. Ever since I learned about this I get really paranoid when there is a fly around my face because of the fact that this could possibly happen to me."
The Spine Attack
"A guy I used to work with had either a condition or got a virus (I don't remember which, this was about 20 years ago) that attacked his spine; he went to bed fine and woke up the next day totally paralyzed from the waist down. He spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair. There was no slow progression, just walking fine one day and completely unable to walk the next."
"I just looked up his obituary (he passed in 2011) he apparently had Transverse Myelitis that led him to become paralyzed."
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"Seems obvious when you think about it, but after an autopsy, they don't put everything back where they found it. It goes in a bag in the abdominal cavity."
Well I'll never sleep again.
Do you have anything to add? Let us know in the comments below.
The truth hurts.
Unencumbered truth bombs in a break up hurts the worst.
Sometimes it's a surprise when a lover reveals why they're going.
Other times you see it coming and chose denial.
Either way, who cares?
The hurt is still gonna hurt.
So it's always a good idea to know the why and how, so that growth can happen.
Either we can change ourselves or keep a better lookout for the toxic the next round.
Redditor Turbulent-Visit-8741 wanted to hear the more somber ends to love stories, so they asked:
"Why did your SO break up with you?"
I'm just not in love with you anymore.
I wish I had had a better answer. But it was the only answer.
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"Because I was a f**king idiot and used alcohol as a bad coping mechanism, and it got to the point where I was a horrible person when I was drunk. I miss her but don't blame her for leaving."
"She kept talking about Andy at work constantly. When I finally blew up and asked her if something was happening she hit the roof and ended it. 2 months later in the announcements in the local newspaper guess who was engaged to Andy."
"Lol they always think they’re slick, right? I had a similar situation, I guess she thought I didn’t notice how often his name came up or how she’d make involuntary facial expressions when someone from their school group mentioned his name. It is what it is man, I know the feeling."
She Deserved Better
"I was a drug addict slipping below the waterline, she was a middle class beautiful woman who deserves better than that."
"Kudos for not instantly saying 'she was a *itch' or something like that. Taking ownership is a rare find. But it takes two, as they say, to make a thing go right."
"You BOTH deserved better out of you, and you deserved help when you needed it. (I certainly know very little about your situation so I apologize for presuming so much, but as a career addict, hypocrite, and know-it-all, it certainly sounds like something I was about to write myself….)"
"I got way too serious way too quickly. I wanted to spend all my time with her and just smothered her. Its a bit embarrassing looking back at it now. She's the only relationship Ive had where I was the one who got dumped."
"That almost seems like a right of passage for guys that are late bloomers. Every guy i know that's always been single and finally gets a girlfriend get way to clingy and scare them off. Doesn't matter what you tell them they can't help themselves."
"I did the same with my first relationship. I got super clingy and pushed too hard because I was immature. He ghosted me instead of talking to me though (this is before cellphones I’m so old lol). So I guess we were both too immature."
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"Met their soul mate that was a year younger than our eldest child (18) after 22 years of marriage."
"Oh God, I had a similar experience. 22 year marriage as well. They got married last year and she is currently pregnant. He’s 52 and she is 34. I also got the 'soulmate' explanation when I found out he was cheating. They’re so unoriginal."
Age is definitely more than JUST a number.
"I was diagnosed with autism and suddenly all the quirky things I did, and had always done she suddenly became noticeably uncomfortable with. Eventually she cheated on me."
I’m feeling this one. Was diagnosed a few years ago and suddenly all my quirks and idiosyncrasies have an explanation, and now my wife (who used to love my quirks) is upset that I’m 'not doing anything to fix it.' Seems like she’s no longer tolerant now that there’s a diagnosis - makes me think that I’ve gone from quirky to broken in her mind and she’s embarrassed? Frustrated? Angry? I don’t know."
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"After being together for 6 years, 4 of them living together, one day she said 'I'm not happy.' Packed all her stuff and left. Never seen her or talked to her ever since. I wish I could at least gotten a proper reason for it or just a talk about what went wrong."
The "Fun" Guy
"The manager that she had been spending 10+ hours a day with behind the bar just seemed more fun. Left me, the kids, pets and house to take care of and just disappeared for days and sometimes weeks. Found out Xanax was involved, which would explain the lapse in time."
"Wish she would have just broken up with me, rather than cheat for months beforehand. Should be noted that weekly I receive 'I miss you and I just want to come home' texts. Too bad I moved cause i couldn’t afford our place alone… no home for you to return to. Enjoy your screaming matches with the 'fun' guy. Since I moved on, my life has been unreasonably better."
The Last Straw
"Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald. She loved it. I thought the biggest crime was the movie itself. We had a fight about it. The end."
"Jk. It's more complicated than that. A lot of tension was building up over the past year, but that fight made us realize we were very different people than we used to be and that things hadn't been working out for a while."
"When you're fighting over mundane things and arguing harshly about personal taste in movies, sh*t has gotten rough. I feel like there's a large lack of respect and trust at that point."
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"I had cancer and ultimately my arm removed at the shoulder. First it was 'I'm totally devoted to you' and 6 months later it was 'good luck.' This was 13 years ago. Still pisses me off."
Some people are the epitome of cruel.
Do you have any similar experiences? Let us know in the comments below.
Traveling and seeing new places and cultures should be on everyone's bucket list, but like every other experience, there are going to be some disappointing ones.
Some travel destinations are so disappointing, however, that people vow to never visit them again.
Ironically, many of those locations are dedicated travel destinations!
Redditor Gourmet-Guy asked:
"Which city are you NOT going to visit ever again, and why?"
"Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Devastating, hopeless, traumatizing, soul-crushing poverty that gets me emotional when I think back on it. The things I saw there… words fail to describe."
"I was checking my watch every few minutes counting down the days and hours until I could leave. It was a scary place where even those that are supposed to protect you are open to attacking and robbing/kidnapping/murdering you."
"Birmingham, Alabama. My wife was almost kidnapped right in front of me while I was holding our infant. Luckily she’s scrappier than she looks and they gave up when they couldn’t quickly shove her in the car."
"Cairo. I've seen everything I wanted to see there, but would never return. Tourists are treated like cattle there, by those involved in the tourist trade, much to the embarrassment of the many good Egyptian people who live in the city."
"We hired a dedicated driver and tour guide for a couple of days so didn't feel like cattle. That said, the number of people harassing us to try to get money was obnoxious. When our guide was with us, they stayed back, but the second he gave us some time to explore, they were horrible."
"Plus, seeing military personnel with assault rifles everywhere was a bit unsettling..."
"This was like a month before the coup, and we could sense something was off, as well."
"That said, our guide was awesome."
"Cairo... My god... I have said this before but... the pollution, the people asking you for money everywhere you go, the mistreatment of animals... I wish I could say that the historical side of the city makes up for it but... nope."
"Marrakesh, Morocco. The only place I’ve ever been that I’ve sworn I’d never go back to."
"After two days of walking around, followed by groups of men and boys trying to touch my wife (who was dressed modestly with legs and shoulders covered), followed by aggression when either she or I voiced our displeasure with this, we gave up trying to sight-see and spent the rest of our vacation in the hotel."
"It just doesn't have a lot going for it, unfortunately. The sort of place where when people find out you are from out of town, they ask what you are doing there, but not in a sort of cheery, 'Oh, what are you here for?' way, but a 'Seriously, why have you chosen to come here?' way. Not very welcoming."
"Stockton, CA. The McDonald's had an armed security guy."
"Growing up, my dad was a crime scene investigator for the DOJ (Department of Justice) and covered all of Northern California. Like, the entire top half of the state. And most of the time when he’d get called, if it was a homicide, he’d be going to Stockton."
Atlantic City, New Jersey
"Atlantic City, NJ, if I can help it."
"Atlantic City is just bizarre. It feels like a run-down smallish city, but it's weirdly dotted with glitzy casinos. It's like Vegas and Scranton got drunk one night and made a really strange baby."
South Beach, Florida
"I don't need to go back to Miami, or at least to South Beach. My husband and I went last year and it was a little bit of a nightmare. We always find fun together, so it was still a good vacation, but I'd rather spend money elsewhere."
"As someone that grew up in Miami, my biggest recommendation for visitors is to do just about anything but go to South Beach."
"Miami has a lot of really cool areas but they’re not tourist hot spots. You’ll have a much better time, in my opinion, hitting up the bars in the gables than going to Wynwood, for example."
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
"Dubai. It features so much about what I don't like about humanity. All money and no substance."
"Ashgabat. Glad I went, but creepy. Total authoritarian dear leader surveillance state. Basically can’t leave the hotel unless escorted. Bad food."
"Utterly fascinating, but I can totally scratch it off my list of 'been there, done that.'"
"Mobile, Alabama. There was a palpable aura of anger and resentment in that town that I'll never forget."
"Manila. The traffic, the pollution, the poverty."
"I'm from the Philippines, and dude, I also hate it there. I'm a province guy. I remember one time I rented an inn there, and the smell literally gave me culture shock. The sink was full of cigarette butts and the bed was cockroach-ridden. I was never able to sleep. I rather stay here in the forest with my fairy friends."
"Hollywood, specifically Hollywood Boulevard. It's really janky, the whole town kind of smells, and it's just wholly disappointing."
"Gary, Indiana. Should be self-explanatory."
"Gary is fine, during the day. You can drive through there without much issue. But at night? If you have to go through there, treat every stop sign as a rolling stop and just never stop."
"The place is rundown and has been for decades, since the main source of income, left town. Now it's just, people who are too poor to move anywhere else. It's an all too common story in the US."
"Nassau, Bahamas. Absolutely horrible. The place is extremely run down. Locals don’t leave you alone and don’t take no for an answer."
"No, I don’t want to buy a wooden flute from the 90s. No, I don’t want to buy D&G sunglasses from China for $80."
"I don't know, maybe I had a bad experience, but I’ll never go back to the Bahamas, at least Nassau."
While traveling is a tremendous experience, there are always going to be some destinations that are disappointing for some, and a reason to never visit again for others.
The best plan is to travel as much as you can, and keep mixing it up, so you can see as many destinations and cultures as you can in a lifetime.
People Break Down Which Things May Seem Harmless But Are Actually Incredibly Dangerous
Things are not always what they seem.
So one should never assume a situation is harmless without a full assessment, although it's sometimes hard to tell.
But if you're ever stranded out in the wild, don't just assume those tasty-looking berries growing in the forest are safe to eat. Not all of these pulpy fruits are meant for human consumption, and ingesting the wrong one could kill you.
Curious to hear more examples of deceptively innocuous situations that could be a matter between life and death, Redditor figinjosejospe asked:
"What seems harmless but is actually incredibly dangerous?"
These are the things to take note when driving.
"Tired driving is as dangerous as drnking and driving."
Remove From The Dashboard, Please
"Putting your feet on car dashboard."
Be mindful of your travel companion.
Pet In The Passenger Seat
"Having a loose animal in the car. A safety instructor once told me doctors had to dig dog bones out of a person after it got between them and an airbag."
Secure Your Pet
"My uncle thinks I’m ridiculous for putting my dogs in restraints in the car. I’m talking rolling his eyes, scoffing, acting like it’s the most absurd thing he has ever heard. Like a moron."
"Last time I checked, dogs are not immune to the laws of inertia and will absolutely go flying through the car if there is a sudden stop. And while I of course care about the safety of my dogs, I also care very much about protecting myself and my human passengers from 40+ lbs of projectile dogs."
Belts Aren't Pet-Proof
"Our terrier got loose of her restraints once while our dad was driving and for some reason she thought the safest place to hide was under his feet. Under the clutch."
"Luckily we were on a straight, constant speed road so we could drag her out, but that wouldve been a dead dog or dead us if anything had happened, especially if she moved behind the brake pedal."
Whenever you're around a body of water, remember the following.
"A patch of calm, smooth ocean between sections that look rough."
Generally that means that there's a rip under the surface. That patch of water wants to yank you out to sea and drown you.
"Pool covers. It's like being wrapped in a bedsheet underwater. You cannot get free and you cannot scream for help. Once you're in the only way to get out is to be incredibly lucky and get free or have faith that someone saw or heard you fall in and hope that they get you in time."
"It's a lengthy, terrifying, death that's completely avoidable."
Nature is beautiful. But don't underestimate its potential to protect itself at all costs.
Difference Between A Bear And A Moose
"A bear will usually give you fair warning before murdering you, a moose will dance on your crippled corpse just cause you dared look at it."
Leave The Berry
"Colorful and pretty wildlife you’re unfamiliar with."
"If you wouldn’t eat a berry you’re unfamiliar with, why would you pick up an animal you’re unfamiliar with?"
Beware Of The Bovine
"Bison. Just go to Yellowstone, grab some popcorn, find a tourist route and watch. You'll see."
Even innocuous pranks can lead to horrific results.
You know the cake tradition at weddings, where one's face is shoved into a cake.
Not everyone thinks it's funny.
As Redditor TheIrishninjas mentioned:
"Pushing someone's face into a cake, even relatively lightly."
"Some cakes have skewers inside to support them. A seemingly harmless prank could lead to being impaled, approach it from just the wrong angle and it's bye bye eyes."