I don't know anyone who doesn't enjoy a slice of pizza every now and then.
It's the perfect customizable meal that can be enjoyed by a wide-range of palates.
But one of the most controversial pies that people seem to have a beef with has got to be Hawaiian pizza.
Some just crave the sweet with the savory that the combination of pineapple and ham provides, while others passionately believe pineapple has no business being a topping.
Others seem to have issues over its classification of what exactly makes Hawaiian pizza, Hawaiian.
Because unbeknownst to some, Hawaiian pizza has its origins in Canada, not in Hawaii.
In 1962, Sam Panopoulous – who co-owned Satellite Restaurant in Toronto, Canada, with his brothers – came up with the idea to add canned pineapple on pizza.
The pizza became an instant hit among his customers but also received flak from pizza purists.
Wanting to get to the bottom of what makes the hotly contested pizza so controversial, Redditor happyfuckincakeday asked Hawaiians:
Hawaiians of Reddit, what are your feelings about hawaiian pizza?
How Do You Really Feel?
"It's so dumb that the rest of the English speaking world dumps pineapple on something and it's instantly 'Hawaiian.' (Including Canada, where ham+pineapple pizza was invented.)"
– carmium
You Can't Report This
"Doesn't have enough Spam in it."
"They need to make spam pizza, then it would truly be Hawaiian."
Not About Toppings
"When you live in Hawaii, all pizza is Hawaiian pizza... even without the ham and pineapple."
– blipsman
Meanwhile, In Canada
"In Canada, we order Canadian pizza and its toppings are always the same: pepperoni, bacon and mushrooms.We can order other pizzas too, but I am not sure why anyone would need to."
A Matter Of Taste
"Am a fan although I get sh*t on for it. Hawaiian pizza is not at all Hawaiian but I don't really care cause it's tasty."
the little mermaid pizza GIFGiphyThe Thing About Pineapples
"I don't want to blow anyone's mind here but I'm pretty sure it's called Hawaiian pizza because there's pineapple on it. Just speculation of course but it's speculation based on the fact it's just because of the pineapple."
– KingRokk
A Bigger Offense
"As someone who lives in Hawaii, and travels a lot, I am far more offended by the crap they are calling poke bowls. Put whatever you want on your pizza. I don't care. If you use anything other than fish for your poke bowl, it ain't poke!"
Make It Your Own
"You know what's great on pizza? Whatever the hell you like to eat on pizza."
It Doesn't Make It Hawaiin
"My wife is native Hawaiian and is ok with pineapple on pizza. However she is not ok with calling it Hawaiian pizza. Pineapple isn't native to Hawaii, and putting pineapple on sh*t doesn't make it Hawaiian."
– zergbait
A Game-Changer
"Live on the Hawaiian island of Oahu."
"Typically I am not a crazy fan of Hawaiian pizza, but if you add some peppers, it completely changes the whole pizza."
"Also, Kona Brewing Company's Hawaiian pizza is out of this goddamn world. They have a porter BBQ sauce that they use instead of tomato sauce, and they add BBQ pulled pork to their Hawaiian pizza. It's probably my favorite pizzas on the island."
For And Against It
"Born and raised, live on the mainland now. Simultaneously don't care at all and am deeply offended by it. Will eat it any day of the week, but I prefer a Pepperoni/pineapple."
Socialized By The Stigma
"90% of people who 'hate' pineapple pizza have just been peer-pressured by society into thinking that way."
"The other 10% though, they mean business. They're not messing around."
The Great Protector
"I am not hawaiian. I have never even set foot on hawaii. I just know I am here to defend hawaiian pizza."
Final Word
"I come from a heavily anti-hawaiian pizza family, except I really like hawaiian pizza because goddamn is it good, but whenever I mention that I want hawaiian pizza I'm treated like the anti-christ and ignored. Why is hawaiian pizza so discriminated? It's good pizza! Why would people eat white cheese and broccoli pizza and say it was good but then act like hawaiian pizza is made of trash straight from a garbage can? Anyways that was my pizza rant, if you like white cheese broccoli pizza, nothing against you I just don't personally like it."
“'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'.” What's your best real life example of this?"
They Literally Won't be "Shut Down"
"When I tell people to just reboot your computer and it will fix all their problems and yet they won't because they said if you wait long enough it will shut down, when in reality it only goes to sleep."
"Then when I tell them they have to completely shut it down they look at me like I'm an idiot and say they did."
"I tell them it seems like it but it only went to sleep."
"They argue back."- niallaa
Some People Just Don't Get It...
"I used to argue a lot with my sister when we were kids."
"She would do this thing where she would say something, and then I would reference back to it literally a minute or two later to prove a point and she would say 'I never said that' or 'that’s not what I said'."
"Absolutely impossible to argue with someone who will just deny having said things that could hurt their argument."
"Also, trying to change the course of an argument if they feel like they are 'losing'."
"A coworker once called me an idiot for doing something 'incorrectly' when I was actually doing it the right way."
"When I politely explained to them that the way they suggested doing the task didn’t actually work, they started asking 'why are you getting so angry?? I was just trying to help' etc."
"So now we’re arguing about whether I’m angry or not instead of the right way to complete the task."- themightypianocat
Facts Are Facts...
"Arguing is pointless if you do not agree on a set of facts."- niallaa
Facts GIF by Judge JerryGiphyYou Can't Have It Both Ways...
"For a short while, I worked as a line cook at a Cracker Barrel, and there was a little saloon style door that led to the staff section (kitchen, bathroom, etc)."
"There was a staff only sign on the door, above the doors, and on the wall behind the doors at eye level."
"Usually if someone from the customer side comes in, they said, 'Coming in' before opening the door, so they didn't hit anyone, but of course customers didn't know that."
"So when this dude opened the door and hit a waitress carrying a ton of drinks, we were reasonably upset with him."
"He said, ;You should really put a sign up'."
"We showed him all the signs, and he goes, 'That seems a bit excessive'."- GreyFoxHound1
So Wrong.
"Had an employee sign an NDA about an upcoming art installation that had investors."
"He told everyone."
"He argued with me the NDA only meant he couldn’t disclose anything with the people in the company."- BosskHogg
He Knew What He Was Talking About
This was best said:
“'Never wrestle with pigs'."
"'You both get dirty and the pig likes it'.― George Bernard Shaw"- Zerowantuthri·
pigs GIFGiphySome Outdated Inventions Are Definitely Not Missed...
"I’m showing my age here but I used to work for an estate agency, and we had sales offices set up at the site of large new housing developments."
"Our primary method of communication was fax."
"One of the sales associates telephoned our office to say that the fax machine had run out of paper."
"No problem, I said, one of the guys is coming your way later for a house tour, I’ll give him a box of paper to give to you."
"We then had an almost 20 minute long argument when they kept insisting 'NO, YOU JUST SEND ME A BLANK FAX BECAUSE I NEED THE PAPER, IT WILL JUST COME OUT OF MY FAX MACHINE'.”
"It was like trying to nail jelly to a tree."
"Difficult, irritating, and it achieved nothing."- BettieKat
Very Few Hills Are Worth Dying On...
"I had a friend in university who was a world-class high school debater."
"Over meals, she liked to pick a ridiculous proposition and then talk circles around people until they had to concede to her point, no matter how absurd."
"When she tried it with me, I just stonewalled her."
"Met every point with a solid 'I don't think that's true'." or 'That doesn't make sense'."
"Eventually she gave up and never tried it with me again."
"It was the only time I've ever used the tactics of the stupid to win an argument."
"But, to be fair, if you're not arguing with me in good faith, I feel no obligation to respond in good faith."- kitskill
IS The Customer Always Right?...
"Working retail."
"Especially when I worked in the tech shop or a computer store."
" Trying to convince someone their $500 laptop is never going to be a gaming system no matter how many of the very few replaceable parts we throw at it can be exhausting."- MOS95B
happy episode 7 GIFGiphyEducation Only Matters If You Learned Something....
"Was arguing with this dude about something math-related."
"He didn’t know how to read a study that involved statistics. claimed he was in multiple AP math classes."
"Tried saying that I 'probably don’t even know basic integration'."
"Gave me a common integration problem."
"He wrote it but forgot the minus sign, making it unsolvable."
"I pointed it out and he edited the comment to make it correct."
"Told him that some people can see when you edit comments."
"He claimed that he just capitalized a letter. on and on and on."- SaturdayNightCity
Good Legal Counsel Might Be Worth The Splurge...
"I asked a representative from the Friend of the Court to explain something she said and she told me that I understood what she was saying."
"I replied that I wouldn't have asked her to explain if I had understood."
"She said if I was going to be difficult, she would hold me in contempt."
"My X chimed in that she didn't quite understand what she had said and was greeted with a smile and an explanation."
"From that point on I always disagreed with the Friend of the Court on EVERYTHING, so that I could be seen by the 'Actual Court' and a Judge."- PURPLEPEE
Season 4 Episode 21 GIF by The SimpsonsGiphySore Winners Are No More Attractive Than Sore Losers...
"Once worked with a guy who, by his own admission, got his rocks off by picking fights."
"He'd start an argument over the smallest thing."
"If you said it was white, he'd say it was black, just to try to start something."
"The one that always stood out for me was the weather app competition."
"One day he asked me what temperature it was, so I read it off my weather app."
"He got all offended, because his weather app said it was a couple degrees warmer."
"So he decides we're going to have a weather app competition."
"He was going to chart what our apps said the temperature was, and at the end of the week, whichever one was closest to that day's high would be the winner."
"And the loser would have to start using the winner's app."
"To which I said, "What is your f*cking problem?'"
"So, yeah."
"For the first few days, he'd make a big performance about marching into my office, recording the temperature off my app, jotting down some notes, and walking off."
"This started on a Monday."
"He gave up after Wednesday."
"Either because I was winning, or he was disappointed because, despite his best efforts, I just did not give a f*ck about weather apps."
"Or maybe the boss told him to stop because I filed a complaint that this was bordering on harassment."- originalchaosinabox
Im Always Right GIF by ZionGiphyIt should perhaps be said calling someone an idiot, or even thinking it, is not a particularly nice thing to do.
Even so, if you're tempted to do so when you're in the presence of a particular individual, probably best not to provoke them.
After all, if you're so determined to "win," does it really make you any better than them?