Creeped-Out People Explain The Spookiest Missing Persons Cases They’ve Ever Witnessed.
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS FACE?[rebelmouse-image 18347710 is_animated_gif=
_Friday nights have become synonymous with one show.... DATELINE NBC! Scary, true life tales of murder and mystery. Literally thousands of people vanish every year under "suspicious" circumstance and their stories become town lore or an episode of Dateline or both. Some are far more haunting than any ghost story one could create. _
Redditor __archiearcher _inquired about what are some of the creepiest missing person's stories we've all heard about. (Because I already don't have enough nightmares.)_
IT'S ALL IN THE UPSIDE DOWN.
The disappearance of Fred Valentich, he was a pilot who set off from a Melbourne airport on a training exercise over Bass Strait, he never arrived at King Island.
What makes it creepy that he radioed in that there was a strange craft following him and the last piece of communication was a metallic scraping sound.
Experts said that he was disorientated and was flying upside down and seeing the lights from his own craft on the water but his Cessna he was flying could only fly upside down for a few seconds before stalling.
They have never found him or his craft.
SOMETIMES THERE IS A HAPPY ENDINGS.[rebelmouse-image 18347711 is_animated_gif=
The case of Jaycee Lee Dugard has always fascinated and mortified me. 11 year old girl kidnapped on her way to school in 1991. In 2009, she turns up alive. Turns out, married couple kidnapped her and kept her in a series of sheds in their backyard for 18 years as a slave. Thankfully, she was reunited with her parents and last known to be focusing on raising her kids and generally staying as private as possible with her life.
TOO CLOSE TO HOME.[rebelmouse-image 18347712 is_animated_gif=
This might get buried but my grandfather has been looking for his sister since 1956. Just left one day before she turned 18 and never made contact again. At one point he went to ID a Jane Doe, doesn't speak much about that, but has continued to look since so more than likely wasn't her.
Got close a couple of times but records are a little hard to verify at this point.
THE VANISHED.[rebelmouse-image 18347714 is_animated_gif=
My brother in law's uncle was driving to work and they found his truck with all his belongings,(except clothes) still running on the side of the road. No sign of him. Just gone.
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Maybe not a missing person case, but one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard. Missing pregnant woman in my town. Can't find her anywhere. She put up an ad on Craigslist for other pregnant women to hangout with and to get advice from. Only one person responded and they became really great friends. They were friends for a couple months and one day she just goes missing for about a week.
Suddenly, someone sees a woman laying on the side of the road, guts pulled out and laid in a neat pile. So fresh there's still steam. Dental records prove it is the pregnant woman but there's no baby to be seen anywhere. Turns out the "friend" had cut out her baby and brought it to the hospital claiming to have had the baby in her car. What tipped them off was that instead of a placenta (like the woman thought) the woman had brought pregnant lady's ovaries instead.
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Weird personal one for me. In my senior year of high school 3 teenage girls from my area disappeared. All of the cases were unrelated and happened within a month of each other. Two of them are resolved now. First girl left a party and never made it home( it was discovered later that she was drunk and had driven off the road and into a lake). Second was a mentally disabled girl who vanished from her home( I think the parents probably killed her, but no one has been arrested or charged, she's still just missing). Third was a girl who never came home one night( apparently she went to a trailer park to buy drugs, but the couple tied her up and kept her in a kennel for two months. They eventually got caught cause they invited a friend over. When he left he called the police, who rescued her). All these disappearances happened in the matter of weeks though and the local news was abuzz with theories. It was really disturbing at the time to have that stuff happening in my community.
IT CAN BE WORSE WITH THE BAD GUY MISSING.[rebelmouse-image 18977733 is_animated_gif=
Pedro Lopez is a serial killer, who, at least according to himself has killed more than 100 people. He spent some time in prison and at some point was freed, and his current whereabouts are unknown.
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Yale med student Annie Le went missing shortly before her wedding. Just vanished. The strange thing was, surveillance showed her entering the lab where she worked but never leaving it. The police searched the building for days. Eventually they found her. A lab assistant had murdered her in the lab, cut her body into pieces and stuffed it into the gap between two walls.
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For me, the creepiest is the disappearance of a Canadian boy named Michael Dunahee, then aged 4. He vanished from a school playground with his parents close by and there no witnesses.
SOME PEOPLE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE CHILDREN![rebelmouse-image 18977736 is_animated_gif=
A girl in my grade (when I was in grade 6) was reportedly missing after having an argument with her mom in the parking lot of a grocery store. Security cameras were checked and they found out the mother had lied about that. After several days we found out that the mom had strangled her with twine and threw her by a lake. Disturbing stuff. There were only about 30 people in my grade so it was a close knit community.
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Ohhhhh... this girl who was working alone got dragged out of gas station (all seen on camera). The footage was so bad they couldn't figure out who it was so they put out a message in the paper with his coat description. Someone eventually says their janitor always wears that coat. They go to the guys house and search non stop over and over again. They find a single burned tooth in the backyard. It would have been inconclusive but the girl had gone to a dentist conference and got a just on the market filling that only like 2 people in the world had.... so they caught him.
TED BUNDY? THERE IS A NAME THAT'LL GIVE YOU CHILLS![rebelmouse-image 18977738 is_animated_gif=
My would-be aunt was abducted and presumably murdered when she was a young girl, 7yo. The primary suspect was Ted Bundy, who lived down the street and was 14 at the time. My grandmother wrote to him while he was on death row and he wrote back denying responsibility. My mom and the deceased shared a bedroom and were very close in age. There's a book about it. Very creepy in general but especially to me considering it could have easily been my mom and I never would have existed.
The woman in the article below is my deceased grandmother.
ALWAYS HAVE THE PHONE CHARGED![rebelmouse-image 18977739 is_animated_gif=
Around 2am he was in a field in Texas and called 911. In the call its hard to hear what he says but he sounds distressed and panicked. He cuts off and that was the last he was heard of. His brother said he called him after but he has yet to be found
It sounds like said he ran into something and mentions he was chased in the woods. Somewhere else someone edited the audio and it sounds like gunshots in the background of the call. Allegedly at 1:03 you can barely hear a faint "help me"
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British South American Airlines flight CS-59 flying from Buenos Aires, Argentina to Santiago, Chile went missing in 1947. The last message "S-T-E-N-D-E-C" was sent via morse code. The pilots were experienced World War 2 bomber pilots and the passengers was a varying group from around the globe and many walks of life, including business executives, a British diplomatic courier, and various people from around the globe. The extensive aerial and land search of the route showed no signs of wreckage, a crash site, or anything. For decades many lines of theories were floated, Nazis, Argentine espionage, hijacking, and even aliens abduction.
Then in 1998, hikers found aircraft wreckage at the base of a glacier on Mount Tupungato. The air crew navigate using methods to calculate distance traveled by the air speed and time, which is a crude but accurate method of navigation. To get above weather and the Andes mountains they climbed to the pressurized aircraft's ceiling. BUT, in 1947 the existence of the jet streams was barely known and certainly not mapped and part of the weather reports the pilots would have reviewed prior to takeoff. The Plane entered and flew against the jet stream, throwing off navigation with the cloud cover of the time and caused them to begin their slow decent too soon and into mountain glacier and causing a avalanche to immediately after hiding the crash site. It took 50 years for the part of the glacier that held the crash site to flow down and begin melt enough to drop the remains of the aircraft, passengers, and crew.
NEVER STOP UNTIL YOU'VE GOT PROOF.[rebelmouse-image 18977741 is_animated_gif=
My town got hit by two huge storms early this year. Tornados/strong winds. A two year old child was the only person reported missing after the storm. What makes it so weird is the parents nor any family were able to provide a single picture of the child, no body has been found, and the birth certificate shows the kid should've actually been 3, not 2 like the parents claimed. There's 3 theories-1. The child never existed and the "parents" were just trying to capitalize on a tragic event with false documents , 2. The child actually died long before the storm and it was used as a convenient excuse or 3. The child was swept away by the storm and the parents are just that shitty to never have taken a photo of their son.
"WHO TOOK JOHNNY?"[rebelmouse-image 18977742 is_animated_gif=
The case of Johnny Gosch in Des Moines. Watch "Who Took Johnny?" on Netflix. He was a paperboy who disappeared during his route. Weirdest part is his mom admitted that he came to visit her once, years after he disappeared.
AT LEAST THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER.[rebelmouse-image 18977743 is_animated_gif=
The Schulze Family from Drage in Lower Saxony. Husband Marco (41 at the time), his wife Sylvia (43 at the time), and their daughter Miriam (12 at the time), went missing from their home in Drage on the 22nd july 2015, nowhere to be found. Marcos body was found a week later in the Elbe (a river), he had a concrete block attached to his legs with a rope. Sylvia and Miriam though remain unfound to this day. Their house was just emptied of all their personal belongings and everything, it will be sold, the money will be put in a secure bank account until they find out who will inherit it. Sylvia can't be pronounced dead yet, earliest in 8 years from now on, 10 years after her disappearance. Miriam on the other hand can't be pronounced dead until she is 25, that is the law here in Germany. Many people believe that either the dad killed his wife, daughter, then himself. Others believe mother and daughter are alive. Who knows though, we will may never know.
BEWARE THE APPS![rebelmouse-image 18977744 is_animated_gif=
A local one for me, but the case of Dakota James. TLDR a Pittsburgh college student named Dakota James goes missing. Police say he fell in the river, city residents disagree. A bunch of guys went missing around that time, and they all had the same gay dating app on their phone.
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Three lighthouse keepers went missing from a tiny island off Scotland. No one knows what happened but when people came to the island they saw that two of the three raincoats were missing, a meal was left half eaten, and a chair was knocked over on the ground. When they checked the diary of one of the lighthouse keepers, it talked about a violent storm and how they other two lighthouse keepers were acting weird. What's creepy is that there never was a storm in that region even though the diary said there was. All three lighthouse keepers were never found.
H/T : REDDIT
While starting a family and having children is a goal that many people have, some do not realize that it's not easy, fun, and loving one-hundred percent of the time. Rather, it's expensive, exhausting, and hard, though it might be worth it in the end.
With this in mind, people shared what they felt were the hardest hurdles of their parenting.
Redditor ApprehensiveShock655 asked:
"What's the worst part of having a child?"
Fear of Not Doing Enough
"The constant anxiety that you’re doing enough to shape them to make good choices, a good life, be a good person and for them to have the life they deserve."
Like the Energizer Bunny
"It's incessant. It never stops. You never get a day off."
"Going from having two days per week to relax and do whatever to literally never having a moment free from responsibility."
No Break In Sight
"I’ve always wanted kids and still do, but this is the only thing that has come close to giving me pause."
"Both my siblings have young kids and I cannot get over how CONSTANT it is."
"From the second the kids wake up to when they finally shut their eyes, it’s non-stop. Then they get maybe an hour or two to themselves, which is mostly spent tidying up, etc., before the nighttime stuff starts with the baby crying, the toddler coming into bed, nightmares, etc."
"It requires years of not getting a full night's rest. You can never just go out whenever you want. No sleeping in, even on weekends because someone has to be up with them at 6 AM."
"Raising human children is an insane task."
Mom's Body After Baby and Dad Bods
"The weight gain is the worst! During the pregnancy, I gained 35 pounds. My belly has stretch marks. My boobs are all saggy."
"And it’s not even fair because my wife only gained like 15."
The Meal Planning
"Coming up with three meals to eat per day EVERY DAY stresses me out so bad."
"This sounds like such a small thing, but it really wears on you over time. You can’t just make something for yourself or something you and your spouse feel like eating: You have to constantly be thinking about if the kid is hungry and what they might be willing to eat."
Keeping Them Safe
"When people ask me this I say, 'do you know those video games where you have to escort a character to a destination without them being attacked?' That's parenting. Those missions are a pain in the a**."
Seriously, Keep Them Safe
"Having to deal with their total lack of self-preservation. They are creative and come up with all kinds of ways to try and kill themselves. Keeping ahead of the game is exhausting."
"They’re just always there. On you, behind you, in front of you, just a little speed bump impeding every task."
Letting Them Live Their Life Their Way
"Having a kid is like having a little piece of your heart running around in the world. When they're sick or get disappointed or just feel sad, it's worse than having it happen to you."
"Yet at the same time, you need to let your kids work through those things to learn to handle them. If you give into the worry and try to shield them from everything, you risk creating harmful co-dependence."
"So it's a constant struggle. But worth it!"
What Is "Sleep" Again?
"I'm only nine years in, but so far, it's been the sleep deprivation. Hands down."
And What Are These "Sick Days" You Speak Of?
"Having to take care of a sick child when you are also sick. For me that has been the most challenging part so far."
Another Full-Time Job
"It's like taking a second job that lasts 18+ years with a 24/7 schedule with no holidays or sick days."
"…And no second paycheck. It's actually like YOU are paying your second salary instead of getting one."
"The loss of freedom. I can't just... go somewhere. Even with older kids, there's so much planning and thinking and getting ready."
"I miss being able to just decide to go somewhere, and go there."
The Time Flies
"The best advice I got was from an ancient hospital security guard in an elevator. 'The days are long, the years are short, cherish them while you can.'"
"The phrase I hate is, 'You don't know it, but one day you pick your kid up for the last time.'"
There are all kinds of troubles that come from being a parent, many of which people don't necessarily think about until they already have a baby in the house.
But reassuringly, many people in the subReddit pointed out that no matter how hard some of these hurdles are to get over, it's still worth it in the end, and it goes by far too fast.
Positive emotions are high among people in the blossoming phase of relationships.
Everything seems more romanticized for people in love due to the amorous joy in their hearts–which also influences their desire to frequently get it on under the sheets–or any other daring location in the heat of the moment.
But for those who've declared "'til death do us part," devoted couples may find that they are not always on the same wavelength sexually compared to when they first met.
Curious to hear how people keep their passion alive, Redditor Rude_Phone6841 asked:
"Married people, how do you initiate sex with your partner?"
When verbally articulating isn't enough...
Let The Book Dictate When
"There is a book called 'How to Subtly Tell Your Partner You Want More Sex.' If you sleep on the right side of the bed, you can casually open it up and your spouse will see the giant printed title on the front. Sometimes, I’ll just get the book out and leave it on his side of the bed. Once he was messing with me and acting like he was oblivious to my not-so-subtle hints, so I threw the book at him. The book is effective and hilarious."
"ETA: Sadly, we haven’t found the book since we moved. Fortunately, we’ve started communicating with our words instead. Words are just as effective."
Save The Date
"I send her an outlook calendar event and if she accepts, IT'S ON."
"You know when I’m down to my socks it’s time for business."
These couples find that verbal cues are best.
Now's The Time
"Honestly when we have the time one of us usually bluntly says 'let's go have sex right f'king now before we can't' and we go do it. Lol"
Option A Or B
"I have a 2 month old and a 2 year old. Some of the best sex we had was because I said 'after 2 year old goes down and if 2month decides to sleep do you want to meet in the basement' well she decided to sleep and damn that was good."
End Of Day Reward
"We just ask each other tbh. We’ll bring it up earlier in the day so we build up the anticipation with each other throughout the day, flirt with each other, gas each other up. All that. Then when it’s finally time at the end of the day, we usually fall asleep cause we’re so tired."
"But the cycle continues the next day!"
People continued offering their wisdom.
Afternoon Hanky Panky
"The trick is to initiate sex during the day. We are both too tired at the end. Plus hanging out all day after is somehow more rewarding."
"Same goes for dates. Have sex at the beginning the date, then go enjoy your time together without any pressure."
Kids In The Equation
"This literally happened today with my wife and me. We have two toddlers so we’re extra exhausted. Earlier today we had the sexy initiation of 'hey, we both showered today, want to have sex after the babies are asleep?' 'Sure.'"
"Then when the kids were asleep, and my wife and I were getting settled into bed, she asked if I still wanted to. I said if she wants to I’m down, but I’m pretty tired and would be fine without it. She said she was also tired and could do without it. So we kissed each other good night and she went to sleep. I’m just winding down on Reddit for a few minutes before I also fall asleep."
"I know this is boring. I didn’t write this to tell an exciting story. Just to share what married life is like for me and probably the large majority of married couples, especially parents of young kids."
Shadow Puppet Technique
"Use my phones torch to shine a shadow of my member up against the bedroom wall."
"Kinda like a bat signal of sorts."
"Turn off the lights and switch on the red lamp beside the bed."
"Walk by him while taking my top off. He follows me wherever I go and it's been 30 years and counting."
Every couple is different, and usually establishing a strong communication bond makes everything else in the relationship–including sexy time–falls in line effortlessly.
I knew a couple who made a game out of foreplay and agreed that whoever got home first from getting off work at the same time got to choose the sexual position that night.
They may no longer be together, but I remember them recalling how that technique was fun for them at the beginning stage and it took the pressure off of establishing when they were going to have sex.
Don't take get too anxious about it. It's just sex, and it's fun.
There are a number of things people partake in spite of the known possible ramifications they have on their health and safety.
Up to and including smoking, bungee-jumping, recreational drug use, or simply bike riding without a helmet.
Indeed, even though they know that doing any or all of these things could possibly lead to their death, they do it anyway.
Sadly, even though many people go out of their way to avoid doing these things for that very reason, that still doesn't mean they keep themselves completely out of danger.
Sadly, there are a surprisingly large number of things that lead to an even more surprising number of deaths each year.
Frighteningly, these are things that the majority of the world's population does on an almost daily basis.
"What causes death more than people realize?"
When In Doubt, Call Your Doctor!
"Your body will become septic, in which it essentially kills itself trying to kill off whatever infection one has."- cacarrizales
"Infections that are left untreated."- raptor-99
Tread Carefully. Seriously.
"On average around 17k people a year in the US die from injuries incurred after tripping and falling."- EdithWhartonsFarts
When In Doubt, Don't Drive.
"Driving while sleepy."- latchkey_adult
The Handrail Is There For A Reason.
"20 million severe injuries each year and at least 200,000 death from consequences of the fall."
"Both my grandparents died because of a fall."- OnTheGoodSideofLife
They Happen To The Best Of Us
"Especially among the elderly, a fall can create a cascade of events that results in death, even if it seems minor at first."-AdmiralBofa
Never Rush Chewing
"Statistically the most choked on food."- SpecSanders
Never Skip A Check-Up
"High Blood Pressure."
"It sneaks up on you and you don't know about it or don't care but it's the underlying cause of so many deaths."- Fear51
Never Underestimate The Importance Of Self Care
"Your body can only handle so much of it and it’s labeled the 'silent killer' for that reason."
"With your high blood pressure and the 5 hours of sleep a night because of the stress, It will creep up on you sooner than you think."- DroppedDonut
Don't Forget To Floss!
"Untreated dental problems."
"A cavity left untreated can lead to heart attacks and strokes."- Lastalmark
"Just regular old flu."
"Many people ignore it thinking it'll go away on its own."
"Globally the number per year is usually between 300k and 500k."
"In the US it can be anywhere from 12k to 50k per year."- PhreedomPhighter
Don't Feel Ashamed If You Need A Break
"I have two family friends pass from heart attacks associated to shoveling the snow."- JD054
There Are People Who Will Help You
"Alcoholism causing liver failure and it's on the rise in the USA."- Interesting_Drop8236
"Peruse your County ME’s records."
"The amount of people who die from alcohol is astounding."- hockenduke
Sometimes, It's Just Best To Mind Your Own Business
"You watch some Hollywood blockbusters and some MMA fights and you think you can do it too."
"I've seen stories of a guy minding his own business and gets rocked on the side of his head. It disconnected his spine and he was dead before he hit the ground."
"There was another story maybe a year ago of a scuffle where a guy was stabbed in the neck and bled out to the point of being unable to stand within 10 seconds."
"Stop f*cking around, it's not worth your life."- Choiceofart
We never know when our number is up or how we'll end our days.
However, with a little bit of care and good judgment, we can at least likely avoid falling victim to all of the above.
When Americans visit a foreign country, they tend to notice immediate cultural differences from the minute they step off the plane.
Unique bathroom designs, how you might have to be more specific when ordering coffee in Australia, how many businesses in Spain tend to shut down for a few hours to take a siesta.
Needless to say, this goes both ways, as when people from all over the world visit the United States, they tend to be surprised and amazed by a number of things.
Ranging from the amusing, such as portion sizes and ineffective tea brewing (at least for the Brits) to the truly baffling (HEALTHCARE).
"Non-American people, what’s a thing that you don’t understand about America?"
You Mean, People DON'T File Their Own Taxes Elsewhere?!?!
"Does every worker have to file their own taxes or am I just confused?"- ThePencil67
"Why they make you calculate your own taxes, if they know what you owe."- redder2023
"So, why do you buy politicians' merchandise? "
"Shirts, caps, banners, stickers, etc."
"They're public servants, not rockstars."
"Also, usually the more boring they are, the better."- akashyyConor Mckenna Influencer GIF by FoilArmsandHogGiphy
"Scottish person here but the work/always available for work culture."
"Minimal vacation time, minimal maternity/paternity leave and the fact you can pretty much just be let go."
"It makes me sad to think about it!"
"But I do love that you guys cram so much into your time off - you guys love a road trip!"- Frosty_Dragonfly_682
Definitely Something To Consider...
"What is up with Homeowner Associations?"
"Why would you pay to let a nosy neighbor dictate what you can and can not do on your own property?"
"I understand living in an apartment block and paying maintenance fees etc, but in a suburban home?"- Skoodledoo
There Are Some Good Observations
"The amount of National Parks!"
"My dream came true in 2017 to make an RV trip southwest off USA."
"Yosemite blew my mind away."- Independent-Ad9787national parks GIF by Visit The USAGiphy
"How you can say the word 'mirror' without the use of any vowels."
I Ordered A Small!
"Why everything is just SO damn supersized."
"My first time in America I went to get ice coffee from Dunkin Donuts, I ordered a large and my friend is like, 'are you sure you want large'?"
"Yeah no biggie, in the UK a large is not overwhelming I feel so I was expecting the same kinda thing."
"Oh my god it was like a god damn bucket of coffee."
"I think maybe a small would have been equivalent to a UK large, lesson swiftly learnt."
Some People Are Lucky To Just Have One Roommate...
"How you have to share a room with some complete rando when you go to college."- ChoppingOnionsForYouRoommates Move In GIF by James Madison UniversityGiphy
Some People Just Can't Stop Talking
"The culture of just talking to people, strangers you don't know and just up and start a conversation with them or join a conversation."
"I'm British, and we go through great lengths to not talk to people, let alone open up and pour our hearts out to a random person."- MrGlayden
In Other Words: Severs Deserve to Be Paid More!
"The tipping culture is so foreign to me, I would be so scared to make a mistake or not tipping enough if I ever go to America because it's not something which is common here in Denmark."- Cupsuu
The Commercials, Maybe?
"I’m American but I’ve worked with a lot of people who aren’t."
"The one thing they always wonder is why Americans are so obsessed with the NFL."
"They think it’s a boring sport."
"They explained 'you wait for 30 seconds, they hike the ball, you get about 5-10 seconds of action, then you wait another 30 seconds, another 5-10 seconds of action, then commercial break'."- yougotthesilver12Kansas City Chiefs Football GIF by Fighting Illini AthleticsGiphy
School Is No Place To Have Fun!
"My mom is from Moscow during the Soviet Era, and she is confused why there is no teacher-student hierarchy."
'She thinks it's weird when teachers participate in school plays or speak to students informally."
"She also DOES NOT GET pajama day."
"To her, it's just the weirdest thing in the world."
"In Russia, there is an important distinction between 'clothes for home' and 'clothes for outside'."
"They have a concept of 'home clothes', like your cozy or ugly clothes, that you are supposed to change into after school or work."
"At bedtime, you change out of your 'home clothes' into pajamas."
"As a result, pajamas, for both adults and children, are considered extra-extra private in Russia."
"My mom perceives pajama day as something extreme like wearing only undergarments to school."
"That's how private pajamas are considered to be in Russia!"- racheltolmach2022
A Debate Which Will Likely Never End
"MM/DD/YYYY"- SuvenPananimation domination calendar GIF by gifnewsGiphy
Living in America comes with a number of advantages and a number of detriments.
Speaking personally though, had I known I wouldn't have to file my own taxes in Australia, I would have expatriated long ago...