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Bisexual People Share The Notable Differences Between Dating Men And Women

Dating is difficult––and truth be told, I don't know how anyone can do it right now, what with a pandemic going on and all. Just the thought stresses me out. Dating is especially hard for people who defy expectations in a heteronormative society. Take bisexuals, for example.


Bisexuals have been open about their struggles maintaining relationships with both men and women, even having to lie about their sexuality if they want to date certain people.

"I feel like if I end up in a straight relationship, I'll look like I was just experimenting all these years, but if I end up in a gay relationship people will say I was never actually bisexual," one man told the BBC in 2019. "Then if I don't have a monogamous relationship people will say I'm just greedy."

Indeed, the pressure to be either gay or straight can be a lot to navigate. After Redditor Trevor-on-Reddit asked the online community, "Bisexual people who have dated both genders, what are some notable differences you've learned about dating both men and women?" bisexuals spoke candidly about their experiences. Take note: You might learn something new.


    "They both think..."

    They both think their signals are clear. They are not.

    ssssssssphalis

    I knew this was universal!

    Practically everyone I've ever met and gotten to know has complained about communication issues at some point.

    "Both genders are bad..."

    Both genders are bad at communicating but in completely different ways.

    Men are more likely to not tell you information that would be important to you simply because they don't deem it important. They gave you the important information. If you can't understand it, then you're either trying to complicate the issue or you're not listening to them.

    Women are more likely to not tell you information important to them because they see it as obvious. If they have to tell you the issue, then you're not paying attention to them and the issue at hand or you're not as invested in the relationship as they are.

    Twilcario

    This sounds like the basis of every family sitcom ever made.

    It does get tiring to see those same tropes rehashed over and over again, I'll admit.

    "They both still have that same tenderness..."

    Dating a man feels like one of your male best friends decided he likes dick one day. Dating women feels "softer" and even though common interests are there, there's more of that listening to their interests because they like it and you're interested in them and not because you care about the subject at hand.

    They both still have that same tenderness and butterfly feeling. That's been my experience so far anyways.

    shinyphanphy

    "I find the dynamics of trust..."

    I'm a bisexual man. I find the dynamics of trust to be vastly different between my male and female companions. Men have been quicker to trust me, but became more nervous over time; women needed more time to build that trust, but once it was there, it was solid.

    I've generally thought of that as not being inherent to their gender and instead tied to how they relate to my maleness. In the same-sex relationships, there's a lot more risk involved because of societal heteronormativity — there's the initial pressure to be out and proud that prompts these men to engage in their relationships with passion, but then there's a worry that the relationship will fail because of the toxic aspect of queer pride. With the women, there's a general fear of violence from men, so there's more caution early on.

    CurveoftheUniverse

    "It's much easier to find a man..."

    So keep in mind that this is my own experience, and is in no way meant to apply to everyone.

    I'm a bi male.

    Non-sexually, men are much more straightforward in almost every way. Everything from what they want to eat, to whether or not they're interested in you. Women rely much more on cues or non-verbal communication.

    In my experience, gay men have been the least receptive to the fact that I'm bi. Straight women tend to be hesitant, but if they've already shown interest in me they usually are still interested after I tell them I'm bi.

    Sexually, with men it's about finishing. With women it's about the journey. With men, I've had more than one occasion where we're playing video games and someone starts getting frisky. We pause, get each other off, and are back to playing games in like 10 minutes. Women, on the other hand, tends to like getting frisky, then foreplay, then sex, then winding down.

    It's much easier to find a man to be with than a woman, at least for me.

    I'm below average in the looks department (like a 3, maybe a 4 on a good day). The women who are interested in me tend to be around there, and I've never had an objectively"hot" one show interest in me. While most of the men I've been with also fall somewhere around there, I've slept with a couple of genuinely hot guys. Muscular, tanned, well-endowed. There's a certain set of guys that really like chubby guys and apparently I fit the bill for them.

    Everyone likes cuddles though.

    profan1028

    Cuddling is incredible.

    I can confirm I've been aghast when I've had a partner who didn't like cuddling.

    "One thing I noticed..."

    One thing I noticed back when I was dating was that women have a lot more baggage when it comes to physical intimacy. Women go through a lot, they have tons of pressures put on them, many have had negative sexual experiences. It's, well, just more complicated. The guys I dated were frankly much more direct and more simplistic about it. I'm not saying either of these descriptions apply to all women or men, but that was my experience. With guys it was like 'hey, wanna make out?' and just sort of that simple.

    haroldtitus425

    To which this person replied:

    As a woman, that's definitely contributing to it. For women, sex is wrapped up with so much bs. It's wrapped up in the ambient (or direct) shaming crisscrossed with our sexualized bodies plastered everywhere that we grow up with, it's wrapped up with the adult men who harassed us when we were preteens and teens, it's wrapped up in the frightening moments when a boy corners us thinking he's being smooth when really he's been aggressive and scary, in the nerves about walking alone, in the fear of giving a man 'the wrong idea' and being told it's our fault when he hurts us, in the stigma and burden of unwanted pregnancy and the choices or lack thereof in that...

    It's really hard for sex to be simple for women. I'd bet money that by the time any woman in the world has hit the age of twenty, she has a story of being harassed or victimized in some way. It becomes a minefield.

    SecretlyFBI

    "Other than that..."

    It's much harder to find a girl who wants to date you than a guy if you're a girl. Either you keep finding straight women, or you both are afraid of being too forward and no one makes the first move. Guys are way less shy about it. But since it's so much harder to get a girlfriend, the relationships with women tend to last longer, because we wouldn't have gotten together if we weren't pretty sure we were compatible.

    Other than that, there's not a huge difference. Individual people are more unique than men are from women, if that makes sense. But I will say I've never had to fight with or teach a woman why something that happened to me was misogynistic. It's more likely that she's experienced something similar.

    mothwhimsy

    "I've dated enough personalities..."

    I'm a bi woman.

    There's not much difference, in my experience. I've dated enough personalities to dismantle virtually any stereotype about gender lol. The most romantic and clingy were guys, the most aloof was a woman. People are just so different.

    Dating women does come with the queer element though, where you have awkwardness over who to be "out" to. I've been lucky enough to mostly steer clear of biphobia but I did briefly date a girl who I think just wanted to be queer because that was her idea of herself (for activist reasons or something?) but I am skeptical if she was actually queer. Needless to say, that didn't last.

    Conversely, when I date guys, I sometimes get anxious about being perceived as straight or "gay until she found a dude". Not that what people think matters, but it's funny. When I date women I worry about homophobia, when I date guys, I worry about being erased.

    Oh, small difference - I always insist on splitting the bill, which is pretty typical for same-sex dating. I think sometimes guys think that means I don't like them.

    ferret-fu

    "While dating a woman..."

    Bi woman. The biggest one was trust/biphobia and the way the two interrelate.

    While dating a woman, having close male friends has always been off the table. It seems to really threaten/make uncomfortable my girlfriend and tends to turn into a never-ending "But are you SURE you don't have feelings for him? you're REALLY not attracted to him?" So many lesbians genuinely hate bi women and think they're always going to cheat or leave for a guy.

    Conversely, men don't give a damn if I have close female friends while dating them, but are far more likely to fetishize the knowledge that I've had past female partners. Which is obviously really uncomfortable if done in any sort of excess.

    FinalTourist

    Dating isn't easy, people.

    When you're someone attracted to both genders, that can come with a host of baggage, namely the weight of everyone else's expectations and prejudices. Try talking to your bi friends sometime––you might glean some brilliant insights that you otherwise might not hear.

    Have some of your own stories to share? Feel free to tell us about them in the comments below.f

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    Non-Sexual Things Married People Look Foward To Doing When Their Partner's Away

    Reddit user shaka_sulu asked: 'Married folks, what's a non-sexual thing you look forward doing at home only when your spouse is away?'

    Man enjoying sangria solo
    Sangria Señorial/Unsplash

    When the cat's away, the mice will play.

    That scenario could apply to many situations, but it generally refers to an individual enjoying temporary freedom to do as they please in the absence of a foe or constant companion.

    In romantic couplings, this may involve a spouse or significant other finally engaging in private activity that could be frowned upon in the presence of the other person.

    Curious to hear examples, Redditor shaka_sulu asked:

    "Married folks, what's a non-sexual thing you look forward doing at home only when your spouse is away?"

    Some people are happy to take up extra space.

    Spacious Parking

    "Parking my car in the middle of the garage."

    – starkpaella

    "Genius answer. It always brings joy."

    – Heynicejobtoday

    Hush

    "The quiet. My husband constantly has the TV on, even if he’s not watching, and I enjoy silence."

    – 2workigo

    "This. My wife lived alone for many years and always has the TV on, even uses the one in the bedroom as noise to fall asleep to. The first thing I do when she’s gone is make sure all the noisemakers are shut off around the house. Well, except the cats. They don’t have off buttons."

    – jaybeeg

    Bed Positions

    "Sleeping on the diagonal."

    – snogweasel

    "When you're there, I sleep lengthwise And when you're gone I sleep diagonal in my bed."

    – downvotingprofile

    Quiet Viewing

    "I had a day off work today. Husband was at work, kids at school, so after I did the school run I came home, wrapped myself in our softest heated blanket, lay on the sofa and watched 3 movies with no interruptions. It was bliss."

    – PheonixKernow

    These Redditors can finally revel in their respective indulgences when they finally have the place to themselves.

    Taste In The Finer Things

    "The wife is a picky eater. When she is away, I either make a meal that she doesn’t like or I go to a restaurant that she doesn’t care for."

    "It’s the little things. 😂"

    – aizzo4

    All Mine

    "I cook almost all the meals. Almost being that we occasionally get take out. When I have a day off and my husband is working and my kids are at school/daycare, I go get breakfast and Waffle House. By myself. I sit there and eat a waffle, two scrambled eggs and bacon and I DONT HAVE TO F'KING SHARE! My husband despises Waffle House, but f'k I love those waffles. My parents used to have a waffle iron that made the traditional style waffles with the tiny squares until the cord shorted out. I miss them."

    – missag_2490

    Cheers

    "My wife is in recovery, six years sober, and I support her in every way possible including, obviously, no alcohol in the house. If she’s away for a few days, I’ll grill me some steak tacos and wash them down with a really good Cabernet."

    – Tom__mm

    "I’m a recovering addict and I think you’re a great husband."

    – JLHuston

    Screen Time

    "Watching TV shows he'd never watch, on the big TV."

    – sexrockandroll

    "There isn't an ancient aliens, shows from the early 80s (chuck Norris and Jack klugman), or horror movies that he won't watch - pausing every 3 seconds in case I miss something - that WE have to watch. When he travels for work I relish the quiet. Even the weather channel is enjoyable."

    "My love for my husband has no end but he has the stupidest taste in shows yet whines if I would rather deep clean the basement than deal with any of it."

    "But I can only deep clean the basement so many times..."

    – Big-Mine9790

    To each his/her/their own.

    The Organizer

    "Deep cleaning and reorganizing. I know, I'm a real party."

    – Dependent_Top_4425

    "You are my people. The garage door is hardly down before I'm getting busy!"

    "There is not one thing better in this whole world than having some alone time in my spotless house."

    – Individual-Army811

    Everything But The Kitchen Sink

    "Hike all day, get the sh**ty chinese takeout that she hates and I love despite knowing full well it’s objectively not good, and drink some nice beer while watching movies all night."

    – holographoc

    Establishing Order

    "Putting things down and having them still be there when I want them."

    "Having a clean house that stays that way for more than 30 seconds. I love him, but he's just a whirlwind of plates and seltzer cans some days."

    – Lyeta1_1

    When my husband's away, I watch all the horror films that have been stacking up in the queues of my streaming platforms.

    He has a weak stomach for gore and violence, so we often avoid home invasion movies or slasher flicks and instead stick to comedy, drama, or dramedies, and documentaries.

    Which is all well and good.

    But when I have the place all to myself, I bust out the wine and Doritos and watch the latest Halloween or Scream movies I've been missing out on.

    We've all had a conversation with someone where they say something where they've said something incorrect or inaccurate.

    Sometimes, our gut reaction is just to laugh, as it was an honest mistake, such as mixing up a pair of celebrities or misusing or mispronouncing a word.

    Other times, we might feel the need to put them in their place and not only correct them but educate them.

    Then there are the times when we have just heard something so shockingly inane that we are left completely and utterly speechless.

    Redditor Moo1124 was eager to hear all the dumb things the Reddit community heard which left them dumbfounded, leading them to ask:

    "What's the stupidest thing you've ever heard anyone say?"

    Before You Denounce Something, Make Sure You Know What It Is

    "'I don't believe in astronomy'."

    "We asked her if she meant astrology, and she asked, 'which is the one where like, you can tell what stars are made of?''

    "We confirmed that was astronomy'."

    "'Yeah, I don't believe in that'."- octohog

    That Explains All The Traffic Jams?

    "That when you press on the horn of your car, it lowers the amount of air in your front right tire due to it helping make that horn sound."- Boomstick123456

    Oh, Dear...

    "I was walking around the ruins of the ancient cliff dwellings at Mesa Verde just outside of Mancos, Colorado, (where the Ancient Puebloans lived from approximately 550 A.D. to 1300 A.D.) when a visitor asked the tour guide:"

    "'Why did they build their homes so far from the highway?'"- badwolf1013

    driving los angeles GIF by HOLLYWOOD LOVE STORYGiphy

    Ribbet...

    “'I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious'."- Master_Grape5931

    Racist No Matter What...

    "Apparently when my daughter was first born she looked vaguely East Asian."

    "Enough, at least, for the nurses to ask if I was sure it was my baby."

    "Now that was an incredibly weird thing to say to a new dad meeting his daughter for the first time, but it wasn't the stupidest thing someone said about this situation."

    "That happened when I was retelling the above story to a client in a meeting."

    "He asked to see a photo of my kid as a newborn, remarked how she really did 'look Asian', and then proceeded to ask if I thought my child might end up having an Asian accent when she got older."- JoeyCalamaro

    "Where are you from, China or Asia?"- SonaPen22

    Cbs No GIF by HULUGiphy

    When Life Gives You Lemons

    "Asked someone if they drove a stick."

    "They responded, 'no, I drive a car'."

    "Now I have a dad joke I’ll remember forever."- 99problemsbut

    ID Please...

    "I once found a big bulldog in my back yard."

    "I don't own a bulldog."

    "He was a big friendly, but slow witted guy."

    "He look healthy and had a collar but no tags so I knew he was a local."

    "I made sure he had water and went to the front yard to start knocking on doors."

    "As soon as I stepped outside I saw the family three houses down all gathered in their front yard."

    "So another case closed for our young detective."

    "I walked over to them and said, 'You guys missing a bulldog?'"

    "The mother looked at me and said, 'Is his name Tyson?'"

    "The question took me aback."

    "I mean, he didn't have tags."

    "They knew he didn't have tags."

    "So all I could think to say was, 'He didn't say'."

    "'But I'm pretty sure he's yours'."

    "To this day I wonder if that woman knew how dumb that question was."- Spodson

    looks stupid english bulldog GIFGiphy

    Under The Influence

    "Stoned friend ."

    "What year is February in?'"- IHave47Teeth

    Woof Woof...

    "My teacher told a class of 16-17 year olds about that super loyal dog in Japan who walked to the train station daily for nine years to wait for his owner, who died at work."

    "After hearing that story, a girl raised her hand and asked 'Why didn't somebody just tell the dog?'"- Senator_Ruth_Martin

    That's Why The FDA Warns Against It...

    "When I was 12 years old a friend told me 'smoking is good for you because the smoke makes a shield around your heart when you breathe it in'."

    "He argued that the smoke could prevent you from being stabbed or shot."

    "Even at 12 I knew he was a moron."- ipondy

    There's Denying Global Warming, And Then...

    "Solar panels will cause a global ice age, because the law of thermodynamics states energy cannot be created or destroyed, so obviously they must be removing heat from the air."

    "With no sense of irony of the scale nor efficiency (or lack thereof) of solar panels and their capacity to cool."- peptobiscuit

    In Debt, Maybe...

    "I knew a Finance major in college who thought he was worth $20k because he had two credit cards with $10k limit each."- alano134

    No one loves a know-it-all.

    Especially when they don't actually know anything at all...


    A man with an ostentatious watch rifles through a wardrobe
    Photo by charlesdeluvio

    Shoplifting is a prevalent issue, but why do people do it?

    Some reasons can be as banal as boredom, but other are far more intruiging.

    Redditor WineOhCanada wanted to understand why people steal, so they asked:

    "People who shoplift on the regular: why do you do it?"

    I loved shoplifting.

    Until I was caught, that is. I was a price tag switcher.

    I apologize.

    So Excited

    Happy Thomas Lennon GIF by ABC NetworkGiphy

    "It makes me feel alive. Jk I don't any more but as a kid, it was for sure a thrill thing."

    silly-billy-goat

    The Need

    "I’m going to give an actual honest answer as someone who has not done this in many years… it becomes addicting."

    anewchapteroflife

    "Came here to say this. Back in my high school days, I would do it all the time. It's like a rush. Now my shoplifting days are when I forgot the can of soup on the bottom of the grocery cart and don't realize til I'm loading it in the car."

    TheRumpleForesk1n

    "I used to work in loss prevention. A lot of times we would let you go; especially teenagers. We knew you would be back and have pictures on the wall of you. We focused on shoplifting rings with a higher dollar amount and employees. Employees rob you blind."

    taco_cop

    The Hit

    "I was greedy and had poor impulse control. While shoplifting was terrifying... having the shiny new thing after gave me a dopamine hit. I got caught three or four times and I thank Christ I was under 18 each and every time."

    happyele

    "It was less about greed for me I think, I've never been addicted to any drugs, whenever I got caught I would always test negative for anything, the custody sergeant who would take my fingerprints/DNA/drug swab would say 'Sean you're the only one that comes in regular that's not on any drugs, what's going on?' I explained that I was homeless, lost my job because the company I worked for folded, and life just kicked me in the butt."

    "Flirty Chez I called her, and she would always give me extra food whenever I was brought in, I just thought that was how she was, then one day she said I need a girlfriend and I shot her down, no more flirty Chez. She was shooting her shot and I rejected her without even knowing it."

    hardcoresean84

    Exchanges

    "Much to my mom’s embarrassment, I was a serial shoplifter as a baby. At least I had the presence of mind to take off my socks and shoes and leave them scattered around the store in exchange."

    UsualFrogFriendship

    "I was once on a camping trip with my parents. We left the campsite for a day and when we got back our soap had been stolen from the tent. Just our soap, nothing else was taken, but we did find the shoes of the perpetrator!"

    "This kid left them right at the entrance of our tent, so it was not difficult to find out who did it. When we went to get the soap back and give him back his shoes, sadly the kid threw it over a fence, so we never got it back."

    ptbroeke

    Influences

    Breaking Bad Crying GIFGiphy

    "My easily influenced mind was corrupted by TV. If it's good enough for Marie Schrader then it's good enough for me."

    DavosLostFingers

    TV rots your brains and decision making capabilities.

    Do the opposite of your favorite characters.

    End of Times

    Nbc Shoplifting GIF by SuperstoreGiphy

    "When I was bedridden due to Covid, I had a friend who shoplifted a whole damn box worth of medicine from different drugstores."

    "I was very impressed and confused, as I didn't ask for it. Great friend though!"

    pepper-blu

    Criminals

    "As a former loss prevention officer, most of the people I stopped were stealing to resell the items. Many people were clearly drug addicts and many people I stopped had meth and other drugs on them. Not every shoplifter is stealing to buy drugs, but a ton of them are."

    "A lot of other people just stole items they wanted, and some people just have a stealing problem and would take whatever random BS they came across and thought would be easy to steal. If I ever saw someone stealing food I'd usually look the other way, but that was pretty rare to see someone taking food, it was usually clothes, electronics, makeup, or tools."

    BigBudZombie

    The Rush

    "Addiction. And that's addiction to shoplifting, not drugs. It's a rush. Confidence grows with each success. It becomes an obsession. It brings an amount of power when stealing from giant corporations. For me, this question is similar to asking an addict why they are addicted to drugs or alcohol."

    "I haven't shoplifted in three years. I attended Shoplifters Anonymous and continue to go to therapy which are both very helpful. I'm very lucky I didn't lose everything."

    tacoterrarium

    Self-Control

    "In high school, I dated this guy who would shoplift and I got influenced to start doing it. After we broke up I kept doing it all throughout college since I was a broke college student who had no self-control. I only shoplifted from big retail stores and told myself it was 'okay.' Post college I stopped because the possible consequences as an adult and to my career were not worth it."

    isatacobelle

    There was no good in it

    "I used to do it as a means to support my drug habit. I wouldn't call what I was doing shoplifting though. I moved the volume and high-end merchandise. Honda generators from Home Depot or Lowe's. Shopping carts full of Tide pods, and Similac baby formula. I'd hit Nordstrom during the holidays for their perfumes and colognes. COACH, Burberry for purses."

    "I made a good chunk of change from it, yet I was still homeless. Most of my money went to drugs, and hotel rooms at shi**y hotels. I'm no longer like this. I reached out and went to rehab this past July. I now have 132 days clean and sober, and work an honest job. My life's boring as hell now and I love it. Even though people on the street complimented and applauded my skills."

    "I was never proud of myself for any of the stealing I was doing. There was no good in it. Now I feel good about myself and can be proud of what I do. It's a nice feeling to go into a store and not have to be aware of my surroundings and not tighten up when the greeters ask for a receipt. Because now, I can happily show them one. Lol."

    Crotch-Monster

    Think First

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    "I work for a 3-letter retail store in NV and we have a ton of theft. I see a lot of random products for sale on the FB marketplace. If it adds up to over $1,200 it’s grand larceny and you get arrested."

    "Walmart also allows up to a certain amount to be returned with no receipt and you get cash back."

    samisalwaysmad

    What have we learned kids?

    Theft never really pays.

    Do you have any experiences? Let us know in the comments below.

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    I once burst out laughing during a job interview.

    It was for an internal position so I knew all of the interviewers well, but even if I hadn't I doubt I could have kept a straight face.

    What cracked me up?

    This interview question:

    "If I attended a backyard BBQ with your last boss, what do you think they'd say about you?"

    After I stopped laughing,

    I told the interviewer—who happened to be my then boss' boss:

    "I'm sorry, but that sounds like a question from the Miss America Pageant."

    The interview panel got a laugh out of that. And yes, I did answer the question.

    So what odd, absurd or just plain strange interview questions have people gotten?

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